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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 01:10:00 PM

Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 01:10:00 PM
Who knows the storie of Joey? Who wants to
Title: Joey
Post by: ` on April 21, 2005, 01:25:00 PM
i do not know the story of Joey. was he a student there?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 01:35:00 PM
Yes he was only there for about a month
intill he ran away after some of the kids ruffed him up but he was out of control
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 03:28:00 PM
I think only Joey or his parents have the right to tell his story---many many mistruths have been told about him. Two here already! He was at Whitmore October and November 2004.
He was not out of control:  He was abused from the minute he arrived at Lake Powell--when Cheryl Sudweeks instructed all the kids to: "Make sure this kid knows this will be the worse year of his life..."

No one except Joey can tell his story truthfully. The Sudweeks are being investigated for abuse against this boy--witnesses who are willing to tell the truth can not talk right now....so don't believe anything productive can be gained by this topic at this time.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 03:49:00 PM
solid advice.....keep this on ice.......strong evidence is forthcoming........GO JOEY!!!!..............truth is always known................WHITMORE ASULYM has some splaning to do......RIGHT LUCY??.......I'm OUT
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
Who is LUCY????
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 05:27:00 PM
TV will fill you in.......the "I LOVE LUCY" show............Ricky Recardo used that phrase, as his accent made us laugh.......good OLD days.......................I'm OUT...for now......LOL
Title: Joey
Post by: Antigen on April 21, 2005, 05:31:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-04-21 10:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Yes he was only there for about a month

intill he ran away after some of the kids ruffed him up but he was out of control"


What happened during that month? I've seen a lot of kids driven to hysteria and violence then blamed for it. Is that what happened to this kid?

To be an atheist requires strength of mind and goodness of heart found in not one of a thousand.
--Samuel Taylor Coleridge, English poet, critic, journalist, philosopher

Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 05:40:00 PM
He was not out of control:  He was abused from the minute he arrived at Lake Powell--when Cheryl Sudweeks instructed all the kids to: "Make sure this kid knows this will be the worse year of his life..."



OUT of CONTROL.........you bet........he reacted differently than most others..........he fought back.......ran away and drank alcohol......escaped to the safety of the police...........yep!!!.....out of control.............maintaining your composure at the ASYLUM........two choices......submit and make the best of it...OR....conform to the NORMAL HOME................give Joey a bone.........he chose the tougher path...........just what I heard........FLY ON THE WALL AT ASYLUM HALL....
Title: Joey
Post by: Former Whitmore Resident on April 21, 2005, 07:28:00 PM
can somebody give me some information about Joey and what happend to him (what the SAW Happen to him..)
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 07:41:00 PM
Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.
Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
Thank you for the information, i appreciate it.. yeah that sounds like what she did to this kid tony there too.. why did she pick joey out to be the number one victim though? were you there while he was? sorry for all of the questions im just very intruiged..
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 08:39:00 PM
Cheryl is a tweaker, most probably suffers from  chronic//drug induced..deranged// unstable  psychosis ...restless,irritable,discontent...she needs to rage............anger is but a luxury
RAGE  from her cage......thus students suffer the consequences of her drug use//abuse ........very typical drug addict behavior.  She's a gorilla loose in the ASYLUM......the students are CHINA....and she hurts them.......physically and mentally........most are afraid...JOEY...wouldn't stand for it.......NORMAL HOME you say.....right.......GO JOEY............................I'm OUT
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 08:44:00 PM
Why did Cheryl pick out Joey to torment? Probably the same reason Tony was singled out--who knows WHY?  Was this Tony A??? My daughter was there, not me...sad to say. (We parents have a lot of guilt for our poor choices/judgments).
My daughter says Cheryl was really mad at Joey because: Before Joey was brought to Lake Powell Cheryl's daughter, Trinity, caught him smoking in the Mansion...and supposedly he was rude to Trinity...and someone said he stole something. SO, he just "got on Cheryl's bad side from the get-go." His first beating was so bad, that the whimpy Mark finally called it off with his famous words: "That's enough Cheryl."
My daughter had only been at Whitmore a few days when this happened, and she was terrified.
Title: Joey
Post by: Former Whitmore Resident on April 21, 2005, 08:54:00 PM
yeah, i'm talking about tony A.. I'll private message you to ask who your daughter is, i was there for december 03 to december 04.
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on April 21, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
Former Whitmore Resident:

YOU MUST BE A TROLL

If you were at Whitmore DEC 2003 to DEC 2004 as you said in the Private Message to me---then you were at Whitmore the entire time Joey was there.

So: you should KNOW exactly who Joey is...what happened to him....bla bla bla.

What's the deal.

AND DON'T call me "SWEETIE" OK?

Go Play Your Little Games Somewhere Else!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2005, 09:40:00 PM
man...all this makes my head spin...am I the only one? There's so much going on on this board it's insane. Former Whitmore Student, could you do me a favor and maybe drop your initials so I can get an idea as to who you are? I probably was there with you...this is CC.

howbizarre
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2005, 08:40:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-04-21 18:04:00, Joyce Harris wrote:

"Former Whitmore Resident:



YOU MUST BE A TROLL



If you were at Whitmore DEC 2003 to DEC 2004 as you said in the Private Message to me---then you were at Whitmore the entire time Joey was there.



So: you should KNOW exactly who Joey is...what happened to him....bla bla bla.



What's the deal.



AND DON'T call me "SWEETIE" OK?



Go Play Your Little Games Somewhere Else!!!!"


 :???:
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on April 22, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
To Annon:  :???:

FORMER WHITMORE RESIDENT posted at 17:54 he/she was at Whitmore from Dec 03 - Dec 04
 
AND Posted: asking questions about Joey 16:28

Then sent me a Private Message: asking questions about Joey and my daughter...calling me "sweetie."

Joey was at Whitmore: October-November 2004

This "STUDENT "would have known all the events that took place when Joey was there...if this was valid, truthful postings.
Title: Joey
Post by: former student on April 22, 2005, 10:16:00 AM
joyce i sent you a private message!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2005, 06:40:00 PM
So ANYWAY, JOYCE I SENT U A PRIVATE MESSAGE :wink: HAHAHA YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH WITH ALL THIS TIME UR HANDS, YOUR QUITE PATHETIC,
ANYWAY MY INITIALS ARE J.S. I WAS AT THE WHIMORE FROM DEC 02 - DEC. 03,
Title: Joey
Post by: Former Whitmore Resident on April 22, 2005, 06:53:00 PM
Listen, i really don't fucking appreciate you're fasle accusated bullshit of me, so i fucking made a thing called a TYPO !!! I WROTE DECEMBER 03 - 04 WHEN I MEANT 02 - 03, I Don't understand what the hell your problem is. and WHY WOULD I MAKE SOMETHING UP LIKE THAT ?! Personally i really don't give a FAT FLYING FUCK WHAT YOU THINK U STUPID BITCH WITH NO FUCKING LIFE WHO EVIDENTALLY SITS HER FUCKING LAZY ASS ON THE COMPUTER ALL DAY !! IF I WAS A FUCKING "TROLL" (WHATEVER THE HELL U MEANT BY THAT) THEN WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD I KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT THE WHITMORE, MAYBE BECAUSE I WAS THERE FOR A YEAR SO DONT U FUCKIGN DARE TRY AND MAKE THESE GODDAMN POSTS THAT ARE COMPLETE BULLSHIT U FUCKIGN BITCH, GET A FUCKING LIFE U LAZY CUNT !! U DONT KNOW ME !!! AND BYT HE WAY ILL GET IT THROUGH U THCIK FUCKING HEAD THAT I WAS AT THE GODDAMN WHITMORE FROM 02- 03 , NOW DO WHATEVER THE FUCK U WANT WITH THIS MESSAGE IM SURE ULL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT CONSIDERING YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS TIME ON YOUR HANDS !! HA I ACTUALLY FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK UR KID WAS THERE FOR LIKE A FUCKING MONTH, YOU ARE ONE SICK FUCKING BITCH !!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2005, 07:30:00 PM
walk in stride......not everyone is fully grown.........such a sour inside..vomit spews//this time on Joyces shoes..get a clue lost soul........SUDWEEKS stole and now must drop the till.on their way to ASYLUM HELL..................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2005, 08:31:00 PM
you actually put food in that mouth??????
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 22, 2005, 09:08:00 PM
Former Whitmore Resident
Familiar Face

vomit spews from the above nitwits key board....advising Joyce that it only got on her shoes.no big deal..............the big fact remains the evidence just received...no longer able to deceive....truly disturbing to all.........except SUDS dear friends//ALANA..CLAN and all...SUDS about to fall........she's going to make many calls from ASYLUM hall.........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on April 22, 2005, 10:31:00 PM
Dear Former Whitmore Resident,

I am sincerely sorry I misjudged your post. I should have sent you a Private Message voicing my concerns--then you could have explained.

Please accept my apology.
This forum serves many purposes, and one is for former students to tell their experiences, to get in contact with past friends, and to help parents and others to understand things from student's perspectives.

I do hope you will continue to post here because your input is invaluable.

I am very sorry that I caused you such anger, but I accept your fury.  I am not your enemy--and will not be rude to you again.

You belong here, you have the right to speak your mind.

Joyce Harris
Title: Joey
Post by: ` on April 22, 2005, 10:46:00 PM
:smokin:
Title: Joey
Post by: Antigen on April 23, 2005, 12:55:00 AM
FWR, can you understand a little justifiable paranoia, given the circumstances? Looks like Joyce can. I hope it all works out alright.

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Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2005, 01:30:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-04-21 16:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.

Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality."



It truly is a shame....Cheryls sad game..also Mark is to blame.........ASYLUM fame as they all fall into the abyss of torment and refining flames......only way to redeem this team.is to convict...repent...........due their time........get involved in a new line..................no more SUDWEEKs ASYLUM  in the fine state of Utah....AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2005, 02:22:00 PM
Right on AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on April 23, 2005, 07:01:00 PM
Former Whitmore Resident and I are OK...we talked on Private Message.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2005, 07:21:00 PM
AMF: Of course Mark is just as much to blame as Cheryl-- he just isn't as "crazy acting" as she is. But he isn't any innocent bystander. He loves the word "NIGGER" just as much as she does. He also likes handcuffs, and curses the kids too. He stood and watched Joey being beat down at the Boy's House.  What a scumbag. His own wife belittles him, and makes fun of his whimpy self.  He's a joke!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2005, 11:36:00 PM
he's had his thrills.......remove the nails...peep through here..she's bare..... so many girls.....he gets his fill..///spy////lie........he's a wonderful guy.....he's a thief..at times he's beneath Cheryl's low level of grief........HE lOOks.she tweaks.wonderful pair....filled with despair ...they will fall from their self proclaimed grace.....real soon///they will be no evidence of this WHITMORE PLACE........WHAT? you say......stay tuned,,they are about to be hit by a typhoon.......AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Antigen on April 24, 2005, 01:55:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-04-23 20:36:00, Anonymous wrote:

they will be no evidence of this WHITMORE PLACE

We need the evidence.

It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create him.
--Arthur C. Clarke, author

Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2005, 12:40:00 PM
Here is the gig, no evidence of WHITMORE chimes, as the ASYLUM soon will not exist...already documented all the crimes, therefore, stand by,,, the SUDS are about to whine......AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Antigen on April 24, 2005, 05:25:00 PM
Yup, and that would be a good thing. Just take lots of pictures, visual and otherwise, is all I'm sayin'. Let it not be all in vain.

I think animal testing is a terrible idea;  they get all nervous and give the wrong answers.    
-- A Bit of Fry and Laurie

Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2005, 11:32:00 AM
AMF, what do you mean "he removes the nails"
"he looks"....Is Mark like a PEEPING TOM there at the Whitmore, spying on these teenage girls or something? Understand Cheryl ENCOURAGES the girls' crushes on Marks, seems to think it is "cute" that the girls write Markie "love notes," that sort of thing.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2005, 06:46:00 PM
Hope AMF meant "no evidence that Whitmore even existed," that it will just be gone and no longer be a school anymore.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2005, 01:05:00 AM
a lot of mindless chatter...some does matter, enlightened by a few, thank you....so we that know begin to burst.....hold our breath as the facts suggest certain death,she cursed///      rehearsed..but could not avoid the fact..she led the attacks...........six volumes weights the day..she just wants to dance away..no dice...out of luck....can't put this on ice...no such luck..............CHERYL...about to sink..........can still smell the ASYLUM stink..............soon my love.........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2005, 04:21:00 PM
AMF you give such hope. Can almost visualize Cheryl in some cell. What sweet justice that would be,knowing she is locked up exactly where she belongs; perhaps writing to her hubby in his cell. What nice little prisoners they could learn to be.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2005, 10:49:00 PM
hello 2
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 12:32:00 AM
don't read this thread.........The ASYLUM dreads that facts be known..............
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 12:49:00 AM
Maybe if Tweakie Cheryl gets arrested, her fellow inmates can make her sing "I'm a Little Teapot" and act out the parts, and then have her lick the cell walls until her yakking tongue is raw!!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 11:15:00 AM
Well, Well,.......TORI is back to reveal fact?.........laughable, subsequent to a forum flood........how nice.....Lets see,,,TORI darling........no questions...thank you dear...........NEXT........how bout CHERYL (tweaker) or MARK (peek er)........what do they have to say........criminal allegations, children services intervention, civil (tort) allegations, closure of a "treatment" facility, and numerous other allegations of inappropriate activities.............and TORI is the media/PR person............LOL..........she don't care, tweaking in her underwear...Marks lOOking again......hoping not to get caught in his sin...........we all happy, lots of kin, playing our favorite spin......at the gates of hell, just beyond....you have entered our ASYLUM///hand over your pills....take a shower...he gets thrills.............lol........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
You better believe Markie Boy does lots more than lOOk! :eek:

He's pretty good with a tape measurer--sizing the little girls up, maybe????

Is sort of whimpy tho--has to use the beloved, crazy tweak-er wifey to recruit for him. Perhaps he has a little shy-side??? nah, he's just a perverted peek-er, sneak-er, sin-er.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 11:24:00 AM
Suds have all that Money$$$$ you'd think they'd hire a PR person instead of relying on a teenager-ex-student with her own problems to be the spokesperson for the fine establishment of Whitmore. (assume she has problems, or why did Mama Alana send her to Whitmore in the first place?)
Title: Joey
Post by: former student on April 28, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
the thought that cheryl might be a tweeker never occured to me while i was there but it makes perfect sense.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 11:52:00 AM
Why does it make perfect sense to you now that Cheryl was a "tweeker?"
Title: Joey
Post by: BuzzKill on April 28, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
These are serious alligations you anons are making. If true, I hope you are talking to CPS and other offical persons and not just posting on this forum. If false - You really should stop - these kinds of things are nothing to joke about.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 12:29:00 PM
Know for a fact: Cheryl Sudweeks recruits girls for Mark Sudweeks and this has already been reported to Mike Godfrey of Child Protective Services, Detective Kimball, and County Attorney Eldridge. Parents who still have girls at Whitmore are now aware, and should remove their girls from this place.
Do not know for a fact that Cheryl Sudweeks is a "tweaker." Had never heard that term before.
Do know: the woman never sleeps by Cheryl's own words.
 KNOW she has marathon "groups" some from 2AM until morning. When she is awake---everyone is awake. The kids report she is up all night every night. She buys diet pills for herself and the girls at Whitmore, without parental permission. She has been observed taking the kids' medications (what meds? I do not know, but from prescription bottles). This has been reported to all above authorities.

Is Mark a peeping tom? Don't know.
DO KNOW: he will walk about mansion wearing only his mormon undergarments in front of boys and girls. He will walk about mansion naked with only a towel "sort of" wrapped around him.
He will use a tape measurer to measure girl's hip areas.  All this has been reported to above authorities.
Will these authorities DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 12:30:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-04-28 09:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Know for a fact: Cheryl Sudweeks recruits girls for Mark Sudweeks


What do you mean by this?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 12:34:00 PM
Buzzkill, some of these postings only have meaning to the ABUSED and the ABUSERS, like the song "I'm a Little Teapot," and licking a stone surface. Not suppose to make sense to you or anyone else,so don't worry about it. It's not your deal.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 12:35:00 PM
Anon, if you don't know what that means, you are too young to be reading this forum.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 12:41:00 PM
Honey, I'm a 40 year old woman.  I wasn't doubting you, just looking for some clarification.  You're stating as FACT that Cheryl "recruits" girls for Mark but then you say you don't know if he's a "peeper" or not.  I'm quite sure there are some very strange and dangerous things going on there but I don't know any facts so I was simply looking for a little clarification from you.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 12:55:00 PM
Cheryl helps convince young girls/students at Whitmore that it is OK to have crushes on her husband, to accept his advances, to think this is normal and acceptable, and even special; and that she approves of this behavior.In the world of child molestation, therapists call this the "grooming period." Is that clear now? Our daughter did not report any "peeping tom" episodes, like having Mark spy on the girls when taking showers or changing clothes etc. I'm not saying that any complaints about "peeping" are not valid--I just do not know about them. But if girls report that, then I have no reason not to believe them. I believe the molestation allegations firmly.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 01:02:00 PM
Thank you.  That's all I was looking for.  Don't be so quick to jump on people for asking questions.  You guys are posting this stuff on a public forum, you have to expect questions.  Believe me, I'm completely on your side.  From what I've read here the Whitmore is a pretty sick little operation.  I understood what you meant by your original post but when others (newer people) come on here they may not and in those cases it does help for you to "make it clear".
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 01:12:00 PM
You are welcome. Just thought "recruit" sounded like a nice way to say what the Sudweeks actually do.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
seems there is a nexus developing?????.....more than one has keys to the vault.......letting the gorilla out????she's everywhere, without a care..........she will share//thus will be spared........truth is, impending doom.......going to squeez all secrets out//BAM..hit the MARK!!......nothing new.....just more of the sleeze they breed............ASYLUM time........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2005, 07:05:00 PM
Hear Cheryl likes to act like a teeny-bopper with the Whitmore kids. Wouldn't it be fun for her to put on the boxing gloves with Rob and go a 'round with him? Just for entertainment? She thought it was funny watching gangland Rob box the heck outta Joey--why not a fun-filled 'round with her to start out the morning?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2005, 12:50:00 PM
going to pay for all the havoc and dismay..........puppeteer stings in a bind...send her on her OWN.....TORI will still mind..wreckage
still in our path//////dancing in our underwear.......but many cares.......can't put this to rest.......going to have to testify........need help covering all the lies.........tide rising.....to many know......recall all the hell............bell rings atop ASYLUM hill.........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2005, 01:29:00 PM
Suds have too many lies to cover. Too many talking to authorities, and Suds don't have contol over former students who are talking, talking, talking. That cult control wears off Mr. and Mrs. Suds.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2005, 07:17:00 PM
Matthew M. F. Hilton
Matthew Hilton, PC
Provo, Utah
(Utah Co.)
 
BV Peer Review Rated
 
Born 1954; Admitted 1982; Brigham Young University - Provo, UT, B.A.; Brigham Young University - Provo, UT, J.D.

The Suds attorney hey???lol......Mr. Hilton........be careful.......don't be in the middle of the road.........you will get ran over..........much at stake.......FRAUD....now,now...advising your  clients what to do....but stand by......the stink will get on you and I....for one....will see to it that the proper investigative agencies know the facts..........WHATCH OUT JACK..................maybe TORI can advise you MATT............lol.....AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2005, 08:38:00 PM
Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.
Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality.

DEFEND THIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on April 29, 2005, 08:59:00 PM
How could any of THAT be defended? It is indefensible! I would love to see it attempted to be defended in a court of law.  They "say" eveyone deserves to be judged by "a jury of their peers." Now, just where on this earth would you find twelve people like this?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2005, 12:13:00 PM
Hear Cheryl likes to act like a teeny-bopper with the Whitmore kids. Wouldn't it be fun for her to put on the boxing gloves with Rob and go a 'round with him? Just for entertainment? She thought it was funny watching gangland Rob box the heck outta Joey--why not a fun-filled 'round with her to start out the morning?

THE TRUTH WILL BE REVEALED...........HILTON STAND BY..........YOUR REPRESENTING SCUM, AND LIES
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2005, 02:16:00 PM
Matthew M. F. Hilton
Matthew Hilton, PC
Provo, Utah
(Utah Co.)

 Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.
Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality.

DEFEND THIS TRASH......will follow you for life...........I'll make my MISSION...lol
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2005, 04:12:00 PM
Victoria Degarmo, Counselor: ?There is no verbal abuse. What goes on here is nothing that doesn?t go on in a family home.?

Victoria Degarmo, Counselor: ?There is no verbal abuse. What goes on here is nothing that doesn?t go on in a family home.?

Victoria Degarmo, Counselor: ?There is no verbal abuse. What goes on here is nothing that doesn?t go on in a family home.?

Victoria Degarmo, Counselor: ?There is no verbal abuse. What goes on here is nothing that doesn?t go on in a family home.?

Victoria Degarmo, Counselor: ?There is no verbal abuse. What goes on here is nothing that doesn?t go on in a family home.?

Victoria Degarmo, Counselor: ?There is no verbal abuse. What goes on here is nothing that doesn?t go on in a family home.?

Promoted to MEDIA RELATIONS.......per tweaker and peek 'ers puppet strings............GO TORI
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2005, 01:52:00 AM
answer
Posted: 2005-03-31 14:36:00  
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 my mom did not receive any referral money. nor was my tuition waived. as for credentials- our english/history, science, math, pe, home ec, lifeskills, and tech teachers ARE ALL CERTIFIED.
as for my credentials- samantha hayes was the one who called me a counselor, all I am is a "peer counselor" aka a peer who relates to others in my age group. i like to help people get it through your head. erica was too mentioned- a lot of questions referring to her are all over. leave her alone. and joey? please. lets forget all the crap he pulled while abusing his close family and the kids at the whitmore. i will not go into details for his family's sake.
and in case you didnt know, in some high schools, especially private ones, sometimes someone with minor certifications can teach a specific class while being under the watchful eye of someone overseeing them like in their case. Of course you might make my statements into worthless again. but im trying to help.


CAN'T SHAKE TORI'S TAKE
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2005, 01:54:00 AM
Posted: 2005-03-30 19:24:00  
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 Hello everyone.
I have been reading the responses and new posts since my last post- its hard to answer some of the questions because my response goes after the last post and not directly after the questioners. I am quite hurt at the false remarks directed at my mom Alana- she doesnt get paid for helping p.u.r.e. or the whitmore- hence the name "volunteer". She is not a whore, or a liar, nor is she righteous or a puppetier, as I am no puppet. I am a human being. Your name calling is nothing but a waste of your time as well as my sensitivity.
No matter what I say in defense of the Whitmore gets only negative or rundant remarks.
I am hurt for the students' lives you've put public, I don't appreciate your conception of Cheryl and Mark. Why not come out here to Nephi and meet them? Would that be okay? I am not being obnoxious- I think it would be great if someone would come and meet these people for themselves.
Well here's some answers:
What happened to Erica? She took what she didnt like and multiplied it into food for those who cant stand programs. She never talks about how she hit a drunk man in Canada in defense of the Whitmore.
What happened to Joey? The same thing he did to his own family- bit the hand that tried to help him. He took drugs, got drunk, tried to hurt himself, and when we tried to stop him he ran away crying abuse. I have known him and his family since I was born. We are from Simi Valley California and our families are close- so I am a good source of his issues- lying and confusion.
I love Erica and Joey. I love Cheryl and Mark. Both sides are so separated now by misconception that no matter what I say both opinions are ultimately met.
What about communication? Well geez that's a brain storm- not! The kids can ask to call their families. If they don't, then they can talk about how wrong that is to some families in their family session. They really are encouraged to call. They even have a rule that they are to write their parents a letter once a week, make a copy, send the original through mail, and keep the copy in their journals. Most of them never cared to talk at home, why would they suddenly change now? They take time and it turns for the better sooner than later.
What about trips? The kids are supposed go to their teachers and principle all of whom are certified, and pass off what assignments to take with them on whatever trip they take. They are encouraged to do all of this, they have to keep a school bag with them, and time is set aside for school- again if they choose not to then theyre using the same cycles and bad habits that they probably brought from home- which they will eventually want to change, and then they will do their stuff.
This too is encouraged by positive peer pressure, parents, and self confidence. Trips are very flexible- it teaches a lot about sharing and dealing with life as it comes. Sometimes the itinerary changes...gosh forbid they get to go to the grand canyon (for example) at the last minute.
What about abuse? I can't even begin to think of what I could possibly say to persuade anyone into changing their minds. I am not blind or brain dead like one of you begs to differ, no I seek to understand. If a student hits another student then they get consequences, say having to write reports or have group session about the ins and outs of choosing a better way of communication. If this is abusive then gosh, why dont we go into our local high schools and file abuse on all the teachers who have seen their students hit someone. and lets call the principle names and say they are sexually harassing the whole school. then lets get the parents to lose sight of their own choices.
I am not looking forward to the responses that will have more name calling, and the counter responses that shut down my energy to help. But these are risks I took on just by posting in the first place.
I have good friends, and I love my Mom. Please don't call them bad names when you don't even know them. And as for your facts- some of them really are wrong. Thank you for your time again. Take care.
*Tori*

LOVE THIS SWEET GIRL............GOOD JOB ALANA................LOL
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2005, 01:59:00 AM
Posted: 2005-03-24 15:09:00  
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 but Tori said the Whitmore Academy was a normal home.......yelling, screaming, profanity, hey...these are troubled complainers.....group assault IS necessary.......the police blew it WAY out of proportion.......plus, that kid would not go along with the wonderful treatment that I saw work on many of the other COMPLAINERS....OH, ME..no, they did not have to group assault me.....my MOMS ALANA........they need her support.......plus, I need a JOB...see, I am Whitmore TRAINED........here I come JOB MARKET....FROM A NORMAL HOME...................
THE WHITMORE ASYLUM...er ACADEMY......


TWEAKER AND PEEK ERS KEEPER.......
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2005, 02:00:00 AM
2005-03-23 14:35:00  
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 Well there's really only one thing left to say...I totally believe in the Whitmore, it helped me and the rest of you need to get a life.  

TORI STATED THIS????.............SHE'S SUCH A SWEET GIRL.............LOL
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2005, 02:03:00 AM
2005-04-02 02:29:00  
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 all nighter CHERYL.........???...pathetic...............want a p&j sandwich???.....you in you underwear??????????.....give it up LIAR, steeling money from, what??? three familys........heard you TOLD TORI you gave all the families their money back..LIAR!!!........only the self absorbed trailer trash would continue to support you..............stand by........JUDGEMENT on EARTH is comming........GO JOEY!!!!!!!!


WHAT ABOUT THIS LITTLE SCHOOL GIRL??????????
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 01, 2005, 02:11:00 AM
Tori,

We submitted a bill the the Sudweeks asking for our money back--and to date we most certainly have not gotten our money back. So if the Sudweeks told you they refunded all the families' money--than that is absolutley NOT TRUE.
Title: Joey
Post by: Gmom on May 01, 2005, 11:33:00 AM
Tori, you can not explain away what former students experienced.  Are you implying they are all making it up?  Seems kind of funny, since they have no contact with each other.

What exactly was the deal with the whole Whitmore group at the courthouse in Nephi, including Mark and Cheryl's small son?  You know what it looked like to the Court and everyone else there?  A GREAT BIG EFFORT AT INTIMIDATION.  I really think Mark and Cheryl expected Leah to show up alone.  Or maybe this was an effort to call "GROUP" on Leah, some of that "peer" thing you were talking about.

Sorry, but if I were you, I would be the one getting a life, going to school, learning to get along and be productive out in the world, not just Whitmore.  I don't understand why your mother allows you to stay there.  Are you really being paid or are you also a volunteer?  You really should be in college, participating in college activities.  Very, very sad.
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 01, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
[ This Message was edited by: Joyce Harris on 2006-03-31 19:15 ]
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
Posted: 2005-04-30 23:03:00  
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all nighter CHERYL.........???...pathetic...............want a p&j sandwich???.....you in you underwear??????????.....give it up LIAR, steeling money from, what??? three familys........heard you TOLD TORI you gave all the families their money back..LIAR!!!........only the self absorbed trailer trash would continue to support you..............stand by........JUDGEMENT on EARTH is comming........GO JOEY!!!!!!!!


Tori posted before that her family and Joey's family were close several years back. Wonder if Alana and Tori recommended Whitmore to Joey's parents?

LOLLLLLOOOOOLLLLLLLL....lOOK
Title: Joey
Post by: Former Whitmore Resident on May 01, 2005, 06:09:00 PM
I find it quite amusing when people make ignortant, vague statements like "all u people who are talking 'crap' need to get a life i love the whitmore blah blah blah" fuckign BLAH BLAH HAHHAAA BLAHHHHHHHHHHH SIIIIICCKKK BARRRFFF BLAHHHH *PUKKEESS** , if you're ganna SPEAK on a public forum atleast have enough respect for yourself to make fucking SENSE you MORONS, I laugh when i read this shit. It's VERY pathetic.
FACTS ARE FACTS PEOPLE, so get the hell out of your little mormon worlds and jump back into the REAL world ! haaaaaaaaah. and i don't understand why it means you don't have a life when your just stating simple FACTS. Then that means that you don't have a life, even worse thoguh because you don't even come on here for the right purpose (which is to state basic FACTS like you would for a lawyer in a case that's the point of this forum), isntead you come on here and make childish ridiculous brainwashed opinions that apparaently make NO sense. that wasn't an opinion that was a fact.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2005, 06:59:00 PM
AAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW KAYLEIGH!!!!!!! SHE'S SO CUTE AND GROWN UP......EVEN DROPPING THE F BOMB. AWWWWW KAYLEIGH.
Title: Joey
Post by: Former Whitmore Resident on May 01, 2005, 07:02:00 PM
What the hell are you talkign about Anon, i'm not Kayleigh.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2005, 07:17:00 PM
SHE IS FAKE.........TORI lies to stay in favor with CHERYL...........just wait..............many will be DEPOSED.......even TORI will reveal portions of the TRUTH.......oh how sweet it will be.............tweaker and peek er locked away..........little TORI back to FLORIDA to stay...........ALANA...WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY??????????????????
Title: Joey
Post by: Antigen on May 01, 2005, 08:14:00 PM
I wonder if any of you former Whit kids will pursue a career or avocation in linguistics? I'm not kidding. I think it would be a wonderful endeavor for anyone w/ this type of experience and who may be so inclined.

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On 2005-05-01 15:09:00, Former Whitmore Resident wrote:

 and i don't understand why it means you don't have a life when your just stating simple FACTS.


"Get a life" is just slang for "it's not important". That was an indefeatable, thought stopping, command phrase in Straight lingo. For example, when listing and explaining the rules, as we did at least once a day, maybe more, one might say something like this:

"No sending or receiving letters till 4th phase, and then the person has to be checked out by staff. M'khay, the reason why we don't send or receive letters till 4th phase is, like, it's just not important to worry about anybody but myself while I'm on 1st - 3rd phase. ..... "

It means never mind the man jacking off and laughing manically behind the thinly veiled mockery of newage folklore. Go tend to something important (you're allowed to think about)

It's amazing, isn't it? The sheer power of adept and determined emotional abuse? You can get damned near anybody to believe almost anything if you can just keep them beat down.

G'bye, I'm goin' back to the hobit holes and trees and tents and such.... back to civilization. :wave:

I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul.... No, all this talk of an existence for us, as individuals, beyond the grave is wrong. It is born of our tenacity of life -- our desire to go on living -- our dread of coming to an end.
--Thomas Edison, American inventor



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Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 02, 2005, 04:55:00 PM
Say When..........fly out and comfort the poor SUDS as they go through this unwarranted crap..........laughable........the Suds are through.............PERIOD........tweaker and peek'er are all washed up........criminal///civil/////////heck their tied up for years..............the gravy train is about to end.............because ONE had the courage...............that opened the path for others.............case BUILT...........takes time.............this is not about support..........heck, TORI had a wonderful experience as the events occurred all around her...........so............memories serve as we recall.........for the better of ourselves (TORI) or for ALL(TRUTH).............I'm out........
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 02, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
yea, unwarranted crap--like anyone but the Suds themselves could get them into this type of mess! Who could even think up the type of abuse Cheryl dishes out except some TWEAKER who spits, hits, curses, rants, raves, kicks, punches, and calls it GROUP THERAPY? Maybe when she is cuffed someone will scream, "get her the fuck outta here!"
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 02, 2005, 05:12:00 PM
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On 2005-05-02 14:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Cheryl, some TWEAKER who spits, hits, curses, rants, raves, kicks, punches, and calls it GROUP THERAPY? Maybe when she is cuffed someone will scream, "get her the fuck outta here!""


Can't be//you see///TORI was there.........she'll swear........CHERYL is the best.........TORI will atest..........ASYLUM hill is the saving bell...........thats not the way group always occurred..........just when JOEY and others complained(RIGHT ALANA).......TOO MANY INVOLVED..........too many lies......all about the ASYLUM///like a swarm of flies......yikes it stinks.......tweaker and peek'er to hell they go..............
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 02, 2005, 05:15:00 PM
"to hell they go"  but that is in the after-life. this is now.  To jail they go now.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 02, 2005, 08:02:00 PM
WOW............Johnny Law on the case........soon my love..........real soon.............AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 03, 2005, 04:51:00 AM
is this site just for people who speak physco. you are like out of a scarry movie! your poetry doesnt jive. not to pop your bubble. its just luni! what are you saying? that you dream about the sudweeks going to jail? are you on drugs? or just insane. what makes you so crazy? you really need help. go to a doctor, before  you hurt someone.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 03, 2005, 04:53:00 AM
i am hearing alot of hate in your words. Hate is not the answer. actually there is alot of hate everywhere in this site. it gives me the creeps to read
Title: Joey
Post by: Antigen on May 03, 2005, 10:35:00 AM
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On 2005-05-03 01:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

 is this site just for people who speak physco.


Yup! Just for you, darlin'! Welcome home!  :wave:

If it is believed that... elementary schools will be better managed by the governor and council, the commissioners of the literary fund or any other general authority of the government than by the parents within each ward, it is a belief against all experience.
Thomas Jefferson

Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 03, 2005, 01:15:00 PM
Does one have to be on drugs to want justice? To want the truth to be told?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 03, 2005, 02:02:00 PM
sober mind...free and clear.facts reveal she will squeal......too much to hope.need more support.got ritalin.its my dope........learn to cope.get in here GROUP!!! I swear......don't complain....we HAVE pain....seems the baby kangaroo learned hard knocks at this lovely school................ASYLUM halls ringing true..........going to be sorry when this is through......................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 03, 2005, 02:08:00 PM
JOEY knows here to tell.all that support ASYLUM hill.will sell upon the gorilla's fall......just standing in her underwear.wondering how it got this far....GROUP was her event....pent up rage from the cage........down the halls/ASYLUM rage....AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 03, 2005, 06:22:00 PM
Watch out Whitmore kids....tonight will be GROUP GROUP GROUP for sure....the rage is on...don't be the one to hear.."get him the fuck outta here"
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 03, 2005, 07:52:00 PM
she's all done.no more tweaker fun.food for all.she's assigned to the ledge.kick,punch, slap.give her all the smae crap.going to cry.GET him the fuck away from me.no use.she's a cooked goose.TORI..need a new story.ALANA.place some money in the graduation card..pay off the prison guards....MARK.drop to dork.close your eyes.she toooooo young,,,,,may be a spy.......LOL
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 03, 2005, 09:12:00 PM
Toooo young for Markie boy? Noooo way. They don't come toooo young.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 12:44:00 PM
getting close.she will rant and rave....sprint towards a gloomy grave....ALANA//any ideas how to save.....the ASYLUM bells toll.she and MARK stole.hell to pay you say..we CLAN.the jury find we stand for right.ASYLUM love and all thats good..........he misunderstood........had to lead attacks.smack,rap,grap and kick..punch.no lunch....he needs to see.we at ASYLUM teach and love..........must take off the gloves......you see..tweaker and me GOV...........I like little love.............AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 02:41:00 PM
MATT the attorney will not allow the Suds to take the stand in court is he's smart---so no speeches about teaching and love will be made. The loyal FOLLOWERS, parents, were not there...so can't be witnesses!  The Suds will pit kids against kids just like they always do...but just watch: kids won't lie in a court of law!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 02:51:00 PM
sweat and pain..they will testify as to fact.all the witnesses will yield to truth.facts attack all the twine....SUDWEEKS made a mess of ASYLUM THYME..........more to be revealed.she will rage...GORILLA won't follow suggestions............out with MATT......attack........baby kangaroo speaks fact.truth to prevail.ASYLUM straight to hell..............AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 04:53:00 PM
The suds are unraveling now...as the truth comes out. Truth by truth. Student by student. Statement by statement. The Suds control is gone. Tweaker and Peeeker getting weaker and weaker.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 04:55:00 PM
Working hard on that "year book?" Make it a good one...the last of Whitmore high. Put Tweaker and Peeker on the cover!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 05:33:00 PM
secret family songs..posted for all.inner child remebering....how mean she is......hit,slap,rap upside the head.gangland ROB to finish the job.such a fine boy you see.he just pleeesssess.me..........he gets treats...real sweet......shoes on his feet...clean sheets.....long shower........visit the girls........TORI power.............he's not so sweet....baby kangaroo///give up your shoes...push/shove...year of hell.......ASYLUM bell will be is trumpet to hell.........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 06:14:00 PM
Gangland Rob may finish the job...but ask who Gorilla instructed to start the JOB and keep the job in constant progress...her boy Kyle to hit, punch, kick night and day. Gorilla does have her favorites to do the deeds. Put him on a ledge...hold him down..he doesn't deserve shoes...get him off that phone...tie him up....the Gorilla demands..Kyle obeys!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 09:52:00 PM
just looking for a good school..seemed nice....expensive.can't be true??????beat the baby kangaroo??...........no way....must be a lie....heard they wrote a letter in support....must be blinded by faith and hope.....TWEAKER exploited the same.twist and lies///just her game.......peek 'er involved// you bet.telephones calls to all.promising it's just a misunderstanding........steal from them all......they stopped all the calls.....more yelling,screaming,hitting,kicking throughout ASYLUM halls..........more parents being taken for a fall............insane bells toll.loud//atop WHITMORE HALL...........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 11:08:00 PM
What a true posting...Parents looking for a good school and fooled by it all. Parents were lied to by Mark's phone calls about Joey: SURE the Suds declared it was a big misunderstanding, blaming this boy...saying he ran away, got drunk, lied about his abuse. NOT SO.
The truth has come out and other kids have told the truth. Joey's parents were CONNED AND LIED TO AS WELL! And how dare the Sudweeks publish private correspondence from these parents in an effort to cover their crimes...but it didn't work did it SUDS??? Now the Suds are wallowing in their lies like PIGS in filth. Hope they know what fear is now!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 11:38:00 PM
AMF?.give it a rest?..obsessed with Cheryl?.must see her fail?.can?t think of anything else ?.baby kangaroo, who do you do?AMF??? Give it a rest!   :wave:
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 11:43:00 PM
cry and complain...she won't let up...tell tweaker and peek er feel the heat........CHERYL going to give me my shoes??????????or kick me with her feet??????????.AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 04, 2005, 11:57:00 PM
try to bury the baby kangaroo....can't do....because its all true..she led attacks...sick lady with held food......yelled..screamed..in our dreams..she's mean...cruel...rude....had them beat the weak...........she tweaks.he peeks.PERIOD..for all the above.they will swing like swine.........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 01:00:00 AM
TO JOEY:

The many postings here and under other TOPICS about you by parents, students and AMF and Anonymous posters--speak volumes about the support and caring for you.

No one can truly understand or know everything you experienced--but know that people have listened, and believe you, and want things to be made RIGHT for you. You are admired for being strong and honest and brave.

No one has to right to treat you the way you were treated!

No one has the right to hurt you.

Many people are working for you, and stand firm in their commitment to right all the wrongs done to you.

You, Joey, are a shining star that will lead to justice!!!!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: mom2three on May 05, 2005, 08:13:00 AM
I couldnt agree more with this posting. You have my support, my admiration and my heart. I BELIEVE YOU and hope that regardless as to where this all goes that you know that many people admire your courage and that we are not fooled by these people.

Speaking up is so important, thank you for your courage and strength.

Truth shall prevail!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 10:00:00 AM
Joey,
You have lots of people who know you are telling the truth and who will be there to back you up.
Go Joey Go!
Keep up the Fight!
The Truth will win out!

Friends of Joey
Title: Joey
Post by: Gmom on May 05, 2005, 10:34:00 AM
Joey

Justice will prevail.  The truth will win.  The authorities will do their jobs.  Won't be long.  Hang in there.  You are not alone -- you have lots of support. far more than you know.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 10:44:00 AM
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On 2005-05-04 20:38:00, Anonymous wrote:

"AMF?.give it a rest?..obsessed with Cheryl?.must see her fail?.can?t think of anything else ?.baby kangaroo, who do you do?AMF??? Give it a rest! "



Give what a rest??.......I must detest....Cheryl and Mark give their best????......OH, I see.....let the SUDS free.......ME....no way......I've come to stay.....I won't play........you see,,,It's the reckoning I seek........TWEAK and PEEK going to play......going to pay.........FAIR TO SAY????
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 05, 2005, 10:51:00 AM
Joey, you have lots of support. You are believed by many many people, and always have been!
Thank you for speaking up---we brought our daughter home because of your bravery, as did other parents. You are our HERO!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 11:43:00 AM
Is Joey AMF?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 12:07:00 PM
MUST say baby kangaroo is who you seek..........AMF is not he.....keep the light on our common plight.....you see, the fight is with SHE....tweaker and peek er it be......going to an assembly........before the judge we all meet........sEE little wretched minds as they really are....TWEAKER and PEEK ER will not go far.........control her every move......as she is assigned to a PRISON groove...........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 02:37:00 PM
who is AMF?
Title: Joey
Post by: Antigen on May 05, 2005, 02:44:00 PM
I dunno. I've wondered if it's Joey. Maybe it's just someone who loves him and is incensed by what happened to him. But all I know for sure is that it's AMF, which I believe stands for Angry Mother Fucker. `Course, I could be wrong.


The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not free is apparent only to other people. His servitude is strictly objective.




--Brave New World Revisited, Aldous Huxley, 1958

Title: Joey
Post by: Rodney on May 05, 2005, 03:10:00 PM
Joey-  You are great and you are brave to stand up to such evil.  You have alot of support, eventhough at times you may feel alone in all this- considering the following the Sudweeks have.  Believe me they will fall.[ This Message was edited by: Rodney on 2005-05-05 12:11 ]
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 03:30:00 PM
I don't believe AMF is Joey at all. But AMF knows Joey's story--that is for sure. "A baby kangaroo" is "a joey," and AMF speaks about Joey in the THIRD PERSON. So AMF knows what happend to this boy, and wants justice! Others posting know what happened to Joey, too.
Some of AMF's postings are mysterious, perhaps only understood by the abusers themselves. Must be scary when they read them, wouldn't you think?
And THEY do read this forum, too.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 05:37:00 PM
meet baby kangaroo and you too will feel as I do.........I love all the children in the zoo........to bad this has to start out sad..........note this::  I won't go away...give in to strays......turn for money,power, or a new chin.......TWEAKER and PEEK ER going to face their sin......in the pin......before a judge and civil TIN.....no big mystery as to me....just focus on baby kangaroos misery.....lest we let shame blind us...and the SUDWEEKS spread more mistrust.........it is a reckoning....no mistake........going to rake them over fire....refine//confine them pure......."GET HER THE FUCK OUT OF HERE"..........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 07:47:00 PM
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On 2005-05-05 11:44:00, Antigen wrote:

"I dunno. I've wondered if it's Joey. Maybe it's just someone who loves him and is incensed by what happened to him. But all I know for sure is that it's AMF, which I believe stands for Angry Mother Fucker. `Course, I could be wrong."



How about...."Aloha My Friends" ??
Title: Joey
Post by: Antigen on May 05, 2005, 09:04:00 PM
I like that much better.  :wink:

A bishop keeps on saying at the age of eighty what he was told to say at the age of eighteen.
--Oscar Wilde

Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 09:27:00 PM
Thought you would...........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 10:09:00 PM
stand by....hold on........it's getting a move on.......oh ya.........tweaker going to freak.....peek er going to wimper...CHERYL will yell at MATT.....she's going to lose her TEMPER......GROUP  GROUP......not tonight dear........you seem filled with fear??.......don't despair......MAYBE TORI will share......many in the zoo got loose???been fed...sleeping in beds...no hits on the head........no gangland attacks........BABY KANGAROO and others from the zoo stating the facts........MATT....GET THEM THE FUCK OUT OF HERE....things have changed madam....see, ASYLUM empty...just tweaker and peek er these days...........how did everthing get so sideways...........dancing in my underwear...soiled in despair.....CHERYL and MARK alone at the fair........and nobody cares.......................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 11:31:00 PM
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On 2005-04-21 17:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Why did Cheryl pick out Joey to torment? Probably the same reason Tony was singled out--who knows WHY?  Was this Tony A??? My daughter was there, not me...sad to say. (We parents have a lot of guilt for our poor choices/judgments).

My daughter says Cheryl was really mad at Joey because: Before Joey was brought to Lake Powell Cheryl's daughter, Trinity, caught him smoking in the Mansion...and supposedly he was rude to Trinity...and someone said he stole something. SO, he just "got on Cheryl's bad side from the get-go." His first beating was so bad, that the whimpy Mark finally called it off with his famous words: "That's enough Cheryl."

My daughter had only been at Whitmore a few days when this happened, and she was terrified."


NO sweat......HEY TORI////ALANA....baby KANGAROO just a complainer.......YA......look the other way......she hits, steals, lies,....shes low class....real CRASS...spits nails and glass........gets the kids to attack.....comes out of the cellar claiming to not know what happened........HEY MATT....this IS FACT.....mormon JACK???? you bet......this case//CLIENT to haunt you for years........MATT...IS THIS WORTH THE TEARS???????
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 11:50:00 PM
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On 2005-04-21 16:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.

Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality."


HANG MAN COMING.....get a rope......she's still stealing their dope.....no hope...he's a wimp...peeks from the shadows....removes the boards......spies the sweets.......likes feet........she leads attacks......gives treats for stomping feet......baby kangaroo cried......barely breathing////HEY ALANA...JUST COMPLAINING????...........he steps in....gives two cents..........back looking,,,as his favorites are soaping............insane ASYLUM.........just a normal home........PLEASE...call TORI to testify................want to hold MAMA ALANA.....for she is a spy............director of many twisted LIES?????????.........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2005, 11:56:00 PM
MATT has to know his clients are liars. Too many kids from too many places that don't even know each other--Same stories--Same abusers!!!!

MATT puts out one little fire and the Suds start two more....MATT can't win.

Mark: "we aren't in the teen help business.
Go to Struggling Teens---Suds advertising for "special needs kids" from closed down CEDU.

MATT NEEDS TO BE A FIRE FIGHTER!!!!!!

Alana and Tori know Joey's a Truth Teller...not a complainer!!!  Alana's in it for the $$$$$$$$
MATT'S in it for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Let the Suds quote their Bible:
"And a Child Shall Lead Them"

Justice for Joey!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2005, 12:05:00 PM
real soon my love...........going to take down the GOV.....washed up you are....a gathering from afar.many travel to see the twine unwind....no wicked history beyond the present day.......we all here to say..........IN JAIL THEY STAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2005, 12:21:00 PM
TIRED STORY
Posted: 2005-05-06 09:20:00  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 MARK and CHERYL SUDWEEKS of WHITMORE BOARDING SCHOOL (asylum hall) were charged today with numerous counts of child abuse, neglect, assault, and breach of contract............additional information is forthcoming, as CHERYL SUDWEEKS, the asylum govenor is recovering from psychosomatic stress syndrome, due to heavy periods of ritalin abuse.....several former students from around the country have arrived and are waiting to reveal the facts before the JUDGE....lawyer JACK (MATT HILTON).....is attempting to discredit the former students of the zoo....but a baby kangaroo appears very crediable...and seems to have the support of the nation...........more to follow as this story continues to unfold......this is Victoria DeGarmo of the zoo news, reporting (as mama ALANA is asleep)...........I'M out................AMF

XOXXOOX
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 06, 2005, 12:55:00 PM
I spoke with Mr. Mike Godfrey in Nephi Utah.

As of 11:00 Am Nephi, Utah time....the Sudweeks have not been formally charged with any criminal charges.

He says the case is still open, and active--but that this posting is inaccurate.

Any formal charges against the Sudweeks will be made public through the proper authorities.
Title: Joey
Post by: Gmom on May 06, 2005, 01:17:00 PM
AMF -- NO CHARGES YET!!  COUNTY ATTORNEY IS WORKING ON IT.  BE PATIENT -- WHEELS OF JUSTICE TURN SLOWLY -- BUT THEY DO TURN!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Gmom on May 06, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
AMF -- the County Attorney is still working on it.  Take a deep breath, the wheels of justice turn very slowly, but THE DO TUNR!!!  Keep the faith!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 06, 2005, 02:11:00 PM
The Sudweeks are STILL being investigated actively for the allegations of abuse! Nothing has changed.  The authorities are doing their jobs.  We will know when any formal charges are filed!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2005, 02:19:00 PM
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On 2005-05-06 09:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"TIRED STORY

Posted: 2005-05-06 09:20:00  

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 MARK and CHERYL SUDWEEKS of WHITMORE BOARDING SCHOOL (asylum hall) were charged today with numerous counts of child abuse, neglect, assault, and breach of contract............additional information is forthcoming, as CHERYL SUDWEEKS, the asylum govenor is recovering from psychosomatic stress syndrome, due to heavy periods of ritalin abuse.....several former students from around the country have arrived and are waiting to reveal the facts before the JUDGE....lawyer JACK (MATT HILTON).....is attempting to discredit the former students of the zoo....but a baby kangaroo appears very crediable...and seems to have the support of the nation...........more to follow as this story continues to unfold......this is Victoria DeGarmo of the zoo news, reporting (as mama ALANA is asleep)...........I'M out................AMF



XOXXOOX"



just a little dramatic forshaddowing.....easy does it...........crystal ball stuff....read
S L O W L Y...............LOL
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2005, 05:59:00 PM
to our surprise....lots of eyes...speaking up,,,,filled the cup........SIX volumes of documented fact.......lawyer JACK busy with all that.........tweaker unable to land and wait.continues to dance on JACK's tailgate.......peek er no where to be seen.....long showers is of his dreams........doors won't shut...flys on the wall..screens won't prevent their fall...numerous calls from ASYLUM hall........won't you all give cash with each solicited plea?? ...no way JACK...it can't be....take our chances before the CLAN........advising you maDAm....they will throw you two in a cell......both will succumb//just memories of ASYLUM thrills...........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 07, 2005, 03:01:00 PM
here paper going to be flying lawyer JACK'S way,, real soon my love,,,,real sOOn...........many allegations.......stay tuned...don't turn the channel...TEVO lock...just don't miss it.........GROUP...GET HIM THE FUCK OUT OF HERE tweaker says.......love to see her face.........criminal////civil claims........grab the rains.........trumpets sound......post time.....all gather around........SUDS about to be taken dOWN..............AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2005, 11:00:00 AM
Cheryl -- boo hoo---cry cry.
Getting all ready for Graduation, parent weekend.
Need to beg more funds for legal fund?
Lots of kids going home...need to fill up the empty rooms...Alans recruiting new students???? Busy Busy at volunteer work at PURE, are you Alana?

Sudweeks, better firm up that "Joey Story." Lots of parents asking more and more questions!!!!!
Past story not holding much water now....leaky leaky bucket all full of holes, huh????
Would parents write letter to Suds and misspell own last name??????? HUH?

Cover your lies Suds....you're caught!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2005, 07:36:00 PM
no rallying call heard........turd is the word associated with the SUDS....just plain cruel.........broke every rule....based upon trust....she gave in to hate...he to lust.....just can't TRUST.........she still yells GROUP!!!...he arrives...they say to SUPERVISE....CONDITION OF THE COMMISSION I surmise...better food...clean sheets...shoes ON feet....no thumps...no gangland attacks....why won't she let two back????....I suspect more will be seen...reveal the truth....we KNOW they screen.........ritalin still the choice....can't keep to the act.........feel the need to attack............OK...WHERE'S THAT MOTHER FUCKER AMF AT??.........................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 09:56:00 AM
AMF what does this mean? "Why won't she let two back???"
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 10:46:00 AM
Does anyone know if Pure is being held legally accountable for referrig to the Whitmore after having known about the prior allegations of abuse complaints? After having known about the legal issuses from Canda?

I would think Sue Scheff/Pure/Marie Peart would be legally accountable for referring to an abusive school. That they would be responsible for the mistreatment of children attendingthe Whitmore. Fraud, deceit etc. for money?

I know the Teen help marketing persons are in the process of being held accountable for refering to wwasp . Different but the same too.
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 09, 2005, 11:03:00 AM
[ This Message was edited by: Joyce Harris on 2006-03-31 19:18 ]
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 05:29:00 PM
Well there's really only one thing left to say...I totally believe in the Whitmore, it helped me and the rest of you need to get a life.

TORI STATED THIS????.............SHE'S SUCH A SWEET GIRL.............go figure????

I thought she knew the baby kangaroo?...........soul for sale dear???
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 05:31:00 PM
Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.
Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality.

soul for sale dear TORI???
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 06:10:00 PM
Personally would like to see this girl pack up, give an honest statement to the authorities, and protect herself a little BEFORE she takes a BIG FALL for something she probably doesn't deserve...and get the hell out of that place. You'd think her OWN MOTHER would help this girl come to this realization.
She can worry about her soul later!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 06:48:00 PM
Read: TEEN HELP INDUSTRY
      "13 year Killed in Teen Residential Program"

The first day Joey was delivered to Lake Powell and Cheryl Sudweeks wanted to impress on this boy that Whitmore "was going to be the worse year of his life..." a group of boys held Joey face down in the dirt after beating him up. Joey begged for his inhaler,saying he could not breathe...just like the boy in the above newspaper article.
Luckily Joey survived Cheryl's ordered torment!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 07:50:00 PM
I can actually clarify on the Lake Powell Joey incident.

Joey had smoked cigarettes in the bathroom and stolen from the store. The Whitmore were almost kicked out of Lake Powell becuase of his actions. This made many of the students, including myself, very angry at this "new kid." Joey was not beaten up... many kids were yelling at him, but not one person touched him. He did not at anytime ask for an inhaler. I know this because I was with Joey for the majority of his time at Lake Powell. I do remember him constantly asking for his pills... more then he was prescribed to take. He was denied extra medication, which seems like a fairly normal action to me.

~chris
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 09, 2005, 07:58:00 PM
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On 2005-05-09 15:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Read: TEEN HELP INDUSTRY

      "13 year Killed in Teen Residential Program"



The first day Joey was delivered to Lake Powell and Cheryl Sudweeks wanted to impress on this boy that Whitmore "was going to be the worse year of his life..." a group of boys held Joey face down in the dirt after beating him up. Joey begged for his inhaler,saying he could not breathe...just like the boy in the above newspaper article.

Luckily Joey survived Cheryl's ordered torment! "


hey ~ chris......how can your VERSION be so different??????????...........find the above to be more probable........yours seems agenda driven..........
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 09, 2005, 08:04:00 PM
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On 2005-05-09 16:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I can actually clarify on the Lake Powell Joey incident.

~chris "


volunteer clarifier??????...come on ~chris.....whats up????.......reporter at large???ZOO news?????.........state your own original fact ........let others have their own......fair enough????????....lets see....somebody posts to an event and you clarify???...........sounds like TORI'S message also..............


GRAIN OF SALT WILL DULL THE SENSES.........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 08:13:00 PM
As of yet,any legal action against Pure?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 09:17:00 PM
Chris: YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!!!!
And YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 09:20:00 PM
Of Course Chris is "agenda driven."
Chris, DON'T Drink the Kool-Aide, OK?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 09:25:00 PM
Anonymous--why don't you call Sue Scheff at PURE and ask HER about her legalities...she probably has her little DAY CALENDAR full of her personal law suits that SHE HAS FILED to fill you in on.
WHY the BIG INTEREST, anyway?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 09:34:00 PM
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On 2005-05-09 18:17:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Chris: YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!!!!

And YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


Finally.......the TRUTH........sly spies.......TORI lies.......divert the dirt.....she takes off her skirt.....tweaker encourages her to flirt......in the shower for an hour.......towels for lunch..........TORI says this is the BRADY BUNCH............AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 09, 2005, 09:54:00 PM
AMF...did you register under the name AMF???? OR do you still only post anonymously?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 09:58:00 PM
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On 2005-05-05 12:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I don't believe AMF is Joey at all. But AMF knows Joey's story--that is for sure. "A baby kangaroo" is "a joey," and AMF speaks about Joey in the THIRD PERSON. So AMF knows what happend to this boy, and wants justice! Others posting know what happened to Joey, too.

Some of AMF's postings are mysterious, perhaps only understood by the abusers themselves. Must be scary when they read them, wouldn't you think?

And THEY do read this forum, too."


SO elegant my dear.......love this post the most...does scare the care on ASYLUM hill......lawyer JACK searching too........ZOO news reporting fear........hear this case is about to shift gears.............is your soul for sale dear?..............AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 10:54:00 PM
Wow I'm sorry you feel the need to attack me and call me a liar. I now live on my own in Chicago and have no reason to support child abusers. If I thought they were child abusers or saw anything out of line I'd have nothing to do with them. What I did see were two individuals who had an honest drive to do what they did. They helped me, and thats something I dont need to defend.

Chris
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 10:57:00 PM
Also, last I heard Joey was at a lock down treatment center.

chris
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 11:09:00 PM
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On 2005-05-09 19:54:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Wow I'm sorry you feel the need to attack me and call me a liar. I now live on my own in Chicago and have no reason to support child abusers. If I thought they were child abusers or saw anything out of line I'd have nothing to do with them. What I did see were two individuals who had an honest drive to do what they did. They helped me, and thats something I dont need to defend.



Chris"


Don't you get it.....the above is your experience coupled with FEELINGS.........the CLARIFING is something totally different..........you dig???
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 11:13:00 PM
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On 2005-05-09 17:04:00, AMF wrote:

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On 2005-05-09 16:50:00, Anonymous wrote:


"I can actually clarify on the Lake Powell Joey incident.


~chris "

CLARIFING don't fly around here.......tell the truth..........or stay clear of the mix.........I'm not calling you on your feelings......no, just your actions.............ALOHA MY FRIEND
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 11:20:00 PM
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On 2005-05-08 20:59:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-05-07 16:01:00, Anonymous wrote:



lawyer JACK can resolve that........never happened.......the baby kangaroo is lying.....OUR first witness is VICTORIA DeGARMO......Miss DeGARMO//...is it a normal home?....yes........next I'd like to call mama Alana..........Miss mama Alana//...are some baby kangaroo's just complainers?....yes..........your honor that concludes our defense........obviously


the DeGARMO women have cleared things up......you see!!..................AMF


"



makes sense to me...very clear.........teen  counselor TORI.....now identified as ZOO news reporter VICTORIA DeGARMO and her mother (mama ALANA) both made statements supporting the ASYLUM.......thus, disregarding the beating of the baby kangaroo.................ZOO has insane ones on the loose........................."
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 11:22:00 PM
I think some of you are getting a little too extreme here. What actions of mine are you speaking of?
Chris
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 11:24:00 PM
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On 2005-05-09 20:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I think some of you are getting a little too extreme here. What actions of mine are you speaking of?

Chris"


oopps........ ~chris
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 12:15:00 AM
~Chris you might be wise to stick to what you KNOW and not just repeat what Cheryl fills your head with. DID you see Joey smoking at the mansion, or stealing at a store? NO, you were at Lake Powell. DO you KNOW that Joey is in a "lock down facility,"...no you HEARD that TOO. You only know what some sick, lying, deranged woman tells you.
IF you had some great, loving, wonderful experience at Whitmore, then you are some lucky boy. IF you were constantly in Joey's midst as you previously stated--then you are a liar if you deny he was abused violently...it's that simple bud.
Every heard of cult de-programming? You might want to enroll.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 12:41:00 AM
It seems ~Chris finally said something worthwhile: That the Sud are "two individuals who had an honest drive to do what they did."
That's right--and they went after it with a vengeance--abusing kids, cheating parents financially...being 100% TWEAKER AND PEEK ER!!!!

Way to go ~Chris! You said it all so well!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 02:31:00 AM
I concur, she's a wicked woman.....CHERYL SUDWEEKS is a liar, cheat, and thief.....nothing but misery, pain, and grief..... to most, except TORI and ~chris.......this waste of a woman is atop my shit list...........you see its like this........she pushed, fussed, and cussed.......caused the baby kangaroo much pain.........I for ONE.......will be in court to hear her explain......she will squeel, wiggle, and scream.....ain't no big deal///ain't no shame...........got the REPORTER and CLARIFIER to speek of my good name........wheel and deal///attack it all per lawyer JACK......can't keep quiet......blah,blah,blah.....many in the ZOO state what they saw........too much fact////zoo keeper PEEK ER,TWEAKER, mama ALANA, reporter VICTORIA, and CLARIFIER ~chris boo and hiss..............going to be a great show...circus and this...........all former ZOO members don't want to miss............AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 10, 2005, 09:34:00 AM
[ This Message was edited by: Joyce Harris on 2006-03-31 19:21 ]
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 03:04:00 PM
Well I do recall saying...
the last I HEARD joey was in a lock down.

As far as smoking goes, I was not referring to him smoking at the mansion I was refering to him smoking the bathroom at Lake Powell. I personally recall the bathroom smelling like cigarette smoke and I do personally recall cigarettes being taken from him multiple times. Again, for me this is all I need to know.

~chris
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 03:07:00 PM
And if you want to talk about first hand facts who here has actually SEEN <<<<< Mark "peek" on a girl. Who here has actually BEEN "peeked" on. Also, who here has SEEN Cheryl use any non-prescribed drugs?

I'll be honest, I think a lot of you guys are simply  sensationalists.

chris
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 10, 2005, 03:11:00 PM
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On 2005-05-09 19:57:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Also, last I heard Joey was at a lock down treatment center.



chris"


tell me more CHERYL...er Chris...er chris...~chris.........tweaker and peek er working hard.......lots to do in the yard.....ZOO crew flew the coop...........lawyer JACK says need to adjust.........JUST HOW MUCH??.......box nasties for her.......school teacher with slippers on feet....no punch,kick,..let them complain...........looking like an end to SUDWEEKS rein................
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 03:13:00 PM
Joyce,
I never said I was in your daughters bedroom. Please don't act at all like I did or try to make me out to be something I'm not.

We had a very long group that night a group that fell on the same exact time as the alleged abuse that involved your daughter.

Joyce I am going to contact you privately as I would love to talk again on the phone..

Also, I have not been programmed and I am certainly not agenda driven. I will listen to all of you, and I will do so with an open mind.

I invite anyone to give me a call or contact me privately.

~chris
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 03:15:00 PM
So now I am Cheryl?

I'll blow that one right out of the water now..

Go ahead and give me a call 773.319.5448
~chris
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 10, 2005, 03:19:00 PM
Chris G.

I have never "seen" Cheryl taking any kind of medications---but I would sure like to BELIEVE that that is the reason for her abusive behaviors described to me by my daughter...at least that would be a "reason."
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 10, 2005, 03:22:00 PM
On 2005-04-21 17:44:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Why did Cheryl pick out Joey to torment? Probably the same reason Tony was singled out--who knows WHY?  Was this Tony A??? My daughter was there, not me...sad to say. (We parents have a lot of guilt for our poor choices/judgments).


My daughter says Cheryl was really mad at Joey because: Before Joey was brought to Lake Powell Cheryl's daughter, Trinity, caught him smoking in the Mansion...and supposedly he was rude to Trinity...and someone said he stole something. SO, he just "got on Cheryl's bad side from the get-go." His first beating was so bad, that the whimpy Mark finally called it off with his famous words: "That's enough Cheryl."


My daughter had only been at Whitmore a few days when this happened, and she was terrified."

no need to refute.........lots more fact.......lawyer JACK and all that........need more spies...lies abundant///of course you've got
pundits......hey..offer them jobs.....probably already pay......buying words is what I say..........
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 10, 2005, 03:25:00 PM
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On 2005-05-10 12:22:00, AMF wrote:


no need to refute.........lots more fact.......lawyer JACK and all that........need more spies...lies abundant///of course you've got

pundits......hey..offer them jobs.....probably already pay......buying words is what I say.........."


hey chris.........the real ~chris.......post with one registered name........no more lame anonymous
games.................
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 03:38:00 PM
HI AMF,

I have registered per your request...

Would you mind telling me whether or not we've met in person? I will not ask you to disclose who you are, I'm just curious if we're friends and I dont know it.

Also, for anyone else I know that is posting here:

 I am not the type to be angry at you for not supporting the Whitmore. Please contact me if you want... I'd love to keep in touch with old friends.
Title: Joey
Post by: chasingdogma on May 10, 2005, 03:38:00 PM
My username will be "Chasingdogma" from now on
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 10, 2005, 06:50:00 PM
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On 2005-05-05 07:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-05-04 20:38:00, Anonymous wrote:


"AMF?.give it a rest?..obsessed with Cheryl?.must see her fail?.can?t think of anything else ?.baby kangaroo, who do you do?AMF??? Give it a rest! "






Give what a rest??.......I must detest....Cheryl and Mark give their best????......OH, I see.....let the SUDS free.......ME....no way......I've come to stay.....I won't play........you see,,,It's the reckoning I seek........TWEAK and PEEK going to play......going to pay.........FAIR TO SAY????"


RIGHT ON>>>>>>>>>>>>>>let the light cast a new LIGHT.............COLLECTIVE UNITY.....creeks become mighty rivers..........soon my love.....soon
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 07:03:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-05 07:51:00, Joyce Harris wrote:

"Joey, you have lots of support. You are believed by many many people, and always have been!

Thank you for speaking up---we brought our daughter home because of your bravery, as did other parents. You are our HERO!

 



"


#1.................right on creek
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 07:04:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-05 12:10:00, Rodney wrote:

"Joey-  You are great and you are brave to stand up to such evil.  You have alot of support, eventhough at times you may feel alone in all this- considering the following the Sudweeks have.  Believe me they will fall.[ This Message was edited by: Rodney on 2005-05-05 12:11 ]"


#2.......nice creek........right on
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 07:05:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-05 12:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I don't believe AMF is Joey at all. But AMF knows Joey's story--that is for sure. "A baby kangaroo" is "a joey," and AMF speaks about Joey in the THIRD PERSON. So AMF knows what happend to this boy, and wants justice! Others posting know what happened to Joey, too.

Some of AMF's postings are mysterious, perhaps only understood by the abusers themselves. Must be scary when they read them, wouldn't you think?

And THEY do read this forum, too."



#3.....DAM........looking like a mighty river.....wash ASYLUM to TRUTH (hell)
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 07:06:00 PM
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On 2005-05-05 14:37:00, Anonymous wrote:

"meet baby kangaroo and you too will feel as I do.........I love all the children in the zoo........to bad this has to start out sad..........note this::  I won't go away...give in to strays......turn for money,power, or a new chin.......TWEAKER and PEEK ER going to face their sin......in the pin......before a judge and civil TIN.....no big mystery as to me....just focus on baby kangaroos misery.....lest we let shame blind us...and the SUDWEEKS spread more mistrust.........it is a reckoning....no mistake........going to rake them over
fire....refine//confine them pure......."GET HER THE FUCK OUT OF HERE"..........AMF

"



#4........dam!!!.....the parting of the RED SEA..........GRAND CANYON power......just a bunch of creeks...................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 10, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
I don't know much........just suspect//several more creeks joining the river....such force to withstand......no way...lies on sand......new type of push and shove.......must be force from above.....yelling and pleas can't save the GOV.......she and peek er flowing down stream........lawyer JACK found a raft.....in an EDDIE no doubt///praying for a seven year drought...............AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: chasingdogma on May 10, 2005, 07:31:00 PM
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Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 10, 2005, 08:02:00 PM
Establishing facts........history of same.........won't go lame........history and fact...can't refute that.........lawyer JACK will become mute.......won't be so cute......she will search///must be lame....has to be a better lawyer........I know we have game.......CHERYL'S REM sleep dreams..........always a scheme.....sad affairs.........innocent dreams lost in tears.......violate others.......instill fear...........she can't escape the reflection in the mirror....................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 10, 2005, 10:27:00 PM
~Chris,

I was not "making you out to be something you are not."  By all reports, you were a nice friend to my daughter, and very kind to her.

All I was saying: In your attempts to defend the Sudweeks you seem to put yourself in the "thick of things." You say---I WAS THERE..I didn't see any abuse, so therefore there was no abuse.

What you said about my daughter was: SHE couldn't have seen any abuse at that time of night because she was up there in her bed asleep.
Well: she was not asleep from 3AM until 6AM. She was helping a teenage boy abuse Joey at Cheryl's direction, and that is a sorry fact...to state about a little girl that had no reason, OR DESIRE to be hurting anybody.

And don't call my daughter a liar. Hopefully, Cheryl Sudweeks can dare try and do that in a court of law. There Cheryl Sudweeks can face my daugher, Joey, and this teenage boy---and then a jury can decide WHO is the LIAR.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 11:45:00 PM
TORI'S good friends with Joey's family. Ask her where he's at.  She can also give the information to CHERYL.  CHERYL could dispatch three or four students to ruff Joey up.  Hey, gangland ROB could pick up TORI, work out a story. and beat the shit out of the baby kangaroo.  TORI is a friend of the family.  She knew Joey was being beat up and approved of it.  

Mama ALANA explained it away as "some are complainers".  Florida trailer trash and Utah desert whores seem to mesh.  Wonder which TORI is most like.  Maybe a trailer whore????
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2005, 11:58:00 PM
Is Tori good friends with Joey's family?

May be harsh to say this girl Tori "approved of Joey being beat up." These kids may be in denial, and may even be protective of the Suds, but to say these kids "approve" of a fellow student being beaten is harsh.
One may not approve of this girl's misplaced loyalty to the Suds, who don't appear to deserve the loyalty of used shit..., but name-calling her a "desert whore," come on!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 12:06:00 AM
Lets see.......oh gangland ROB and Kyle are beating the shit out of JOEY.......BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF HIM...........my,,,my...watch out class.....don't be hard on the ADULT employee..EMPLOYEE TORI..........she's a desert WHORE............WHORE!!!   desert//  trailer  WHORE...................don't you get it..........she's an adult............EMPLOYEE.................turned WHORE.............easy does it my ass..........the bitch is a liar........call her on it or pussy foot around........mama ALANA.........treason BITCH
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 12:21:00 AM
COURT date CLOSER
Posted: 2005-05-04 15:14:00  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Gangland Rob may finish the job...but ask who Gorilla instructed to start the JOB and keep the job in constant progress...her boy Kyle to hit, punch, kick night and day. Gorilla does have her favorites to do the deeds. Put him on a ledge...hold him down..he doesn't deserve shoes...get him off that phone...tie him up....the Gorilla demands..Kyle obeys!!!!


Easy on TORI class........oh, its so hard.......she escaped...mama ALANA'S trailer....mama, I'm going to return to the gorilla.......she's sweet.......that little fucking kangaroo "BIT THE HAND THAT FEEDS HIM"..."GAVE HIS PARENTS CRAP"...........beat him beat him!!!!.....................oh, don't be hard on TORI..........she's just protecting the SUDWEEKS..............


How long do you go easy on ADULT EMPLOYEE TORI???
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 12:26:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-05-10 20:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

Florida trailer trash and Utah desert whores seem to mesh.  Wonder which TORI is most like.  Maybe a trailer whore????"


well, taking a poll..........vote after your regular posts.........may I suggest something like this::::

blah,blah blah, blah,  CHERYL SUDWEEKS is a criminal..blah, blah, blah......



VOTE:  WHORE SHE IS
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 01:44:00 AM
Don't know about Tori's "whore status" but do know that Kramer was Joey's worse nightmare!!! Rob's an animal..but Kramer can't stop..not when he thinks he's pleasing Cheryl. And it pleased Cheryl every time Kramer hurt Joey. And Chris Gentile is a whimpy liar who saw it all. Go sneak around and play your music Chris! Tell your stories about what a bad-ass you were at Ivy Ridge, if you could pull you head out of Cheryl's ass!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 03:42:00 AM
...gangland ROB...Kyle, and Kramer.........I want to get the list right........love it when information is corrected...........CLARIFIER and other liars...afraid to respond...long gone........as is TORI'S word//world........desert trash//park dream.....sure TORI'S a mesh......maybe a hollywood queen.......she was there...all the affairs...CHERYL in her underwear........and she states there were no beatings........she lies.........desert whore....I don't adore...in fact I deplore.......this adult whore better come clean..same with clarifier...we will see.....I will be there to be seen............tweaker and PEEK ER going to piss their jeans....
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 03:49:00 AM
Gangland Rob may finish the job...but ask who Gorilla instructed to start the JOB and keep the job in constant progress...her boy Kyle to hit, punch, kick night and day. Gorilla does have her favorites to do the deeds. Put him on a ledge...hold him down..he doesn't deserve shoes...get him off that phone...tie him up....the Gorilla demands..Kyle obeys!!!!

 Don't know about Tori's "whore status" but do know that Kramer was Joey's worse nightmare!!! Rob's an animal..but Kramer can't stop..not when he thinks he's pleasing Cheryl. And it pleased Cheryl every time Kramer hurt Joey. And Chris Gentile is a whimpy liar who saw it all. Go sneak around and play your music Chris! Tell your stories about what a bad-ass you were at Ivy Ridge, if you could pull you head out of Cheryl's ass!

VOTE::    TORI'S a DESERT WHORE
Title: Joey
Post by: chasingdogma on May 11, 2005, 06:18:00 AM
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Title: Joey
Post by: chasingdogma on May 11, 2005, 06:21:00 AM
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Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 09:51:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-05-11 03:18:00, chasingdogma wrote:

"
I can't even understand what AMF is talking about half the time.

~chris"


right on....get this...the self proclaimed CLARIFIER can't understand half the time????...~chris.......easy does if MY FRIEND.......
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 11, 2005, 09:55:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-05-05 07:00:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Joey,

You have lots of people who know you are telling the truth and who will be there to back you up.

Go Joey Go!

Keep up the Fight!

The Truth will win out!



Friends of Joey"


don't understand.......~chris
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 11, 2005, 09:57:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-05-05 12:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I don't believe AMF is Joey at all. But AMF knows Joey's story--that is for sure. "A baby kangaroo" is "a joey," and AMF speaks about Joey in the THIRD PERSON. So AMF knows what happend to this boy, and wants justice! Others posting know what happened to Joey, too.

Some of AMF's postings are mysterious, perhaps only understood by the abusers themselves. Must be scary when they read them, wouldn't you think?

And THEY do read this forum, too."



clarify this...ALOHA MY FRIEND
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 10:03:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-05-11 00:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

" Gangland Rob may finish the job...but ask who Gorilla instructed to start the JOB and keep the job in constant progress...her boy Kyle to hit, punch, kick night and day. Gorilla does have her favorites to do the deeds. Put him on a ledge...hold him down..he doesn't deserve shoes...get him off that phone...tie him up....the Gorilla demands..Kyle obeys!!!!



 Don't know about Tori's "whore status" but do know that Kramer was Joey's worse nightmare!!! Rob's an animal..but Kramer can't stop..not when he thinks he's pleasing Cheryl. And it pleased Cheryl every time Kramer hurt Joey. And Chris Gentile is a whimpy liar who saw it all. Go sneak around and play your music Chris! Tell your stories about what a bad-ass you were at Ivy Ridge, if you could pull you head out of Cheryl's ass!



VOTE::    x  TORI'S a DESERT WHORE"
        TORI'S A SWEET/INNOCENT GIRL
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 11, 2005, 10:17:00 AM
Hello Chris,
I don't think you playing or not playing music at Whitmore is important at all--. I think music and teenagers is simply just a GIVEN; and question Chery's making an issue of it. I certainly don't understand some of IT--like rap: but then IN MY DAY, parents didn't understand ROCK'n ROLL, and thought Elvis Presley would "doom us all to hell." Music and teenagers--why fight it? My opinion: it is just another CONTROL ISSUE with Cheryl Sudweeks.

AMF and Tori:  read the postings carefully-- it appears this poster DOES know Tori and her family--and Joey rather well. Some of the "mysterious" postings probably only make sense to those to whom they are directed.
But MANY of the postings describe incidents concerning Joey's abuse as described by my daughter--and the facts match exactly---and therein lies the problem for the Sudweeks you defend so valliantly. WHOEVER or WHERE-EVER these postings are coming from: the facts do match.
Name-calling: I do not defend nor criticize. I have been called everything on this forum from a whore, liar, lesbian child abuser, to THAT EVIL HARRIS WOMAN (think  YOU called me that, Chris)....so, people do a bit of name-calling here.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 10:36:00 AM
ANONYMOUS WROTE: "Tori's a sweet innocent girl"
NO!!!!!!!!!!
Tori is a Cheryl-Wanna-Be!
Tori is a misguided girl whose mother has no control over this girl, OR she would have this girl enrolled in college (if her so-called Whitmore High School forged transcript could get her accepted into a college).
Tori enjoys calling herself a "counselor," and thinking she is in control of a bunch of kids, and likes dishing out Cheryl's orders.
She is a sick person, in a sick place, worshiping even SICKER people--the Suds.
Could try to pity Tori if what she was doing wasn't contributing to abuse. She has the chance to get out and do the right thing. SHE chooses to stay--so she will deserve paying the price when it all comes crumbling down!
Title: Joey
Post by: chasingdogma on May 11, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
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Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 12:38:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-11 03:18:00, chasingdogma wrote:


I can't even understand what AMF is talking about half the time.
~chris"



LOL.....wonder why.clarifier guy.....until the facts flow JACK......focus on where your at...............green eggs and ham........................music man.....AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 12:50:00 PM
Kyle, Kramer, and gangland ROB, CHERYL...............who else punched,kicked, hit..pushed,shoved,slapped...and other crap...at the direction of the GOV or because of love....what about TORI...where is her story............

1) KYLE
2) gangland ROB
3) Kramer
4) CHERYL (tweaker//gorilla//GOV)

who else is in on the LOVE??????...........................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 01:05:00 PM
Believe Kyle and KRAMER are one and the same: Kyle Kramer.
Title: Joey
Post by: chasingdogma on May 11, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
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Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 11, 2005, 01:26:00 PM
~Chris,
Have you been in contact with Erica?
She stopped posting after her vicious attacks by the Whitmore crowd here.
Just wondering how she might be doing.
Title: Joey
Post by: chasingdogma on May 11, 2005, 01:31:00 PM
I do believe she still posts here. Regardless, I dont have any way of getting in touch with her to see how she's doing.

~chris[ This Message was edited by: chasingdogma on 2005-05-11 10:31 ]
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 11, 2005, 01:38:00 PM
~Chris
Did you read the Tribune article in which Mark Sudweeks stated that the Whitmore Academy is not just an academic boarding school, offering no therapy and that they "are out of the teen help business." ???

It is posted under some topic like: "Tweek and Peek don't like theraputic label" here.

Since you were a student at Whitmore, and know the type of kids enrolled there---do you think ONLY an academic setting would be successful for the population of kids that parents send to Whitmore?
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 11, 2005, 01:39:00 PM
I meant NOW just an academic boarding school.
Title: Joey
Post by: Antigen on May 11, 2005, 01:59:00 PM
Never let your dogma run out in front of your

Not a place upon earth might be so happy as America. Her situation is remote from all the wrangling world, and she has nothing to do but to trade with them.
--Thomas Paine

Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 02:53:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-11 10:18:00, chasingdogma wrote:

Makes me wonder how much AMF actually knows about the current situation at hand. What is your relationship to the Whitmore? Are you just a spectator in this situation?



~chris


elighten me my friend (ALOHA)...long ago I smashed my ego...ain't about me.just the truth that must mesh...searching for the real among all the trash....I'll back down...sit awhile....have piles of DOCS...sifting through them all....talk is yet to develope much....have to operate on the facts...develope slowly..sometimes fast///always materialize if YOU work for them..........extravagent,,we think not, the promises are occurring all around us............YOU will surly meet SOME of US as you trudge the road...........keep the FAITH until then....................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 02:59:00 PM
Creeks into Streams.... Streams into Rivers .... Rivers into oceans... OH NO the tweaker and Peaker are washed away .... WHERE IS LAWYER JACK
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 03:02:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-11 11:59:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Creeks into Streams.... Streams into Rivers .... Rivers into oceans... OH NO the tweaker and Peaker are washed away .... WHERE IS LAWYER JACK"



TOO funny.....lol
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-11 10:59:00, Antigen wrote:

"Never let your dogma run out in front of your

Not a place upon earth might be so happy as America. Her situation is remote from all the wrangling world, and she has nothing to do but to trade with them.
--Thomas Paine


"


SWEET....AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 11, 2005, 03:15:00 PM
~Chris: I guess you aren't talking to me, HUH?
Oh, well--back to studying.  Is it finals week for you too?
Title: Joey
Post by: chasingdogma on May 11, 2005, 03:26:00 PM
Hi Joyce...
I have no reason to not talk to you... :smile:
My finals are actually the first week of June following Whitmore's parents weekend. I'll be flying in to Utah for the weekend to visit see everyone. This will be my first time back since leaving the Whitmore in late December. Other then that things are pretty good.
~chris

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Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 04:40:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-11 12:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"
Quote

On 2005-05-11 11:59:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Creeks into Streams.... Streams into Rivers .... Rivers into oceans... OH NO the tweaker and Peaker are washed away .... WHERE IS LAWYER JACK"






TOO funny.....lol"



LLLLOOOLLO)LLOO(LOOLOOLLOOLOO)LLLOOOOOOL...xoxoxo
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 11, 2005, 05:17:00 PM
~Chris,

I asked that since the Sudweeks say "they are out of the teen help business"--you were a student at Whitmore, so since you know what type of kids are sent to the Whitmore by parents....how do you think the kids will get any type of help? The Sudweeks are claiming the kids won't be having ANY TYPE OF THERAPY AT ALL...and that they are not open to kids with behavior problems.

Think Dr. Bernie is just ADVISING what classes to take? Sort of your "old job at Whitmore" wasn't it?  Why a PhD guy to do THAT?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 07:34:00 PM
Yea, hear Cheryl's had the phones hot calling up former student's begging them to come for parent's weekend, needs that support. Who's talking? Who's on her side? Gathering the forces, planning the LIES. Getting that new encounter websit set up. Who's invited to join? Who's trustworthy to gather for the attack?Trouble is: who's the number one enemy?Gather the "warriors!!" Cheryl's in her element..GROUP GROUP GROUP!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 07:36:00 PM
CHERYL'S New Encounter Group: HAVE YOU BEEN INVITED TO JOIN???? Doesn't that just sound peachy?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2005, 07:37:00 PM
Encounter group? isn't that a bit outdated? showing your age, are you cheryl?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 12, 2005, 01:07:00 PM
lots to do, have to pass on this day.....way better opportunities upcoming...many more days...Oh, yes...it would be fun to watch her greet, meet, spill her lines...ROLL in the HAY.beg for gratuities....instruct all to be blind...........Gorilla will have a flower in her hair...dare we stay away....probably the prudent choice of the day............
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 12, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
Fanfare coming,,nothing to do with graduation...many uninvited camping outside, just down the hill, outside the gates...in view of ASYLUM and jail....local news station???reporters galore...BET baby kangaroo going to even the score.........private persons///flat foots//lawyer JACK//various members of the bar///flatfoots on detail....special report???..shackles for the GORILLA...cuffs for the PEEK ER...........jackpot they don't need.........but three??????........criminal/civil/and municipalities?? .TOO much to bARE....she nEEds to dance in her underwear........why do so...many cARE?????.tweaker and peek er better find cARE.......................
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 12, 2005, 07:00:00 PM
Bet I can guess who's NOT invited to Parent's weekend bash!!!  AND, who will be the topic of Cheryl's ravings!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2005, 08:48:00 AM
Think LAWYER JACK will be guest speaker at Parents Weekend? Lawyer JACK might have a message of Parents....and be passing the hat for fees! AND passing out his card!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 17, 2005, 11:34:00 AM
they huff and sigh, no relief in sight........no focus,,only disgust.they don't get it....tweaker and peek er, gave in to gluttony andlust...violated the sacred trust.........lawyer JACK..stitches and all///treated like a rag doll...yell and scream she must...all's insane in the halls.he won't even return her calls.......argue she does............new lawyer sOOn??........need cash????.......dig up the stash.....28 day reprieve, many supporters will grieve............could the posts on FORNITS be true????????.......really an insane school????????ruled by sinful fools????????????........more facts///soon my love...real sOOn...........
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2005, 12:53:00 PM
anybody recently reveive a call??........hear the axe is about to fall..........criminal charges soon to be............one of three???......civil to follow............news crews hard to swallow????????....TV crew camping out.......parents avoid the place....KAOS throughout the halls..........phone calls......FLORIDA flights....TORI'S back in the spot light.................GOOD NIGHT IRENE
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
Hear "alumni" are being called, begged to attend this Parents Weekend event. Suds really feeling the pressure to gather any support they can find. Maybe Cheryl needs ONE MORE GROUP SESSION with them to reassure herself of who's talking to authorities. She can't get it--it's not a numbers game...the real truth wins out, every SINGLE TIME!
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 18, 2005, 03:06:00 PM
Dam Baby, It's begining to move fast....swift water up ahead// the next light...neither time nor space......she going to face her accusers......angry bunch in her face...TWEAKER and CLAN I am......Blah Blah Blah....I was above the law.......lawyer JACK set them straight....can't ma'm, see// CLAN don't fly..........it's do or die.......you set the mark low....OFF to jail you go.........$30K and say MARK will stay.HEY...he's a peek er he is........stray..alley cat....got info on that...........ON ON ON blah Blah Blah...........tweaker going to show the law..........DANCING IN JAIL BIRD UNDERWEAR.........mark here????
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2005, 03:35:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-09 19:57:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Also, last I heard Joey was at a lock down treatment center.



chris"



laughable....on the contrary, he's eating well//sleeping well///no GROUP//lots of positive peer pressure........no ASYLUM bells..no gorilla thrills......no Krammer//gangland ROB....just good old living and loving........not a normal home....no complaining....does not ///has not///will not speak of the events until called upon...criminal....YA....civil YA....she going to fall............last call for ritalin my dear....care to share with all the BEARS........................lol
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
And as usual Chris who do you HEAR things from? Let me guess, dear dear Cheryl who wouldn't know the truth if it bit her in her fat ass.why do you hang around these sicko people? Not deprogrammed yet?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2005, 05:15:00 PM
That's a good remark: Does the State of Utah allow MORMON CRIMINALS to wear their SACRED UNDERGARMENTS in prison?...Would think prisons have standard issued clothing--must remember, Utah may cater to this strong religion in their State.

 OR, do convicted criminals loose
 that "PRIVILEGE of wearing the sacred undergarments" from the Mormon church?

If a woman is found guilty of child molestation of a girl victim--- That should be a BIG PROBLEM:  the Mormon church has some strict strict RULES about homosexuality--seems they don't just excommunicate members for THAT...they also turn their souls over to the devil, or some such thing.

Hmmmmmmm
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2005, 05:22:00 PM
Let's not be so easy on Markie Boy--he's as guilty as the Gorilla! Racial slur speaking PEEK er! Handcuff-um Mr. Mark.  Stare out the window whimpy Markie Boy--enjoy the fight did you, big man????  GOTTA a tape measure handy MARK....how do the little girls measure up???? Creepy...creepy...mark.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2005, 06:02:00 PM
I was just funning about.......didn't touch thAT one.just lOOked........the others...they consented...Mormon love ...ya thats it....1852 again???.........back off.she's little but all mine....in time.......gorilla going to jail.....I'll lOOk a good spell.thrills!!!.......got to pay??.......no ASYLUM...NO PLANES???.....Walmart here I come........................lol
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2005, 06:07:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-04-29 16:17:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Matthew M. F. Hilton

Matthew Hilton, PC

Provo, Utah

(Utah Co.)

 

BV Peer Review Rated

 

Born 1954; Admitted 1982; Brigham Young University - Provo, UT, B.A.; Brigham Young University - Provo, UT, J.D.



The Suds attorney hey???lol......Mr. Hilton........be careful.......don't be in the middle of the road.........you will get ran over..........much at stake.......FRAUD....now,now...advising your  clients what to do....but stand by......the stink will get on you and I....for one....will see to it that the proper investigative agencies know the facts..........WHATCH OUT JACK..................maybe TORI can advise you MATT............lol.....AMF

"


sorry...........just plain sorry..............weak at best....BV????..............lol
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2005, 06:10:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-04 15:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Gangland Rob may finish the job...but ask who Gorilla instructed to start the JOB and keep the job in constant progress...her boy Kyle to hit, punch, kick night and day. Gorilla does have her favorites to do the deeds. Put him on a ledge...hold him down..he doesn't deserve shoes...get him off that phone...tie him up....the Gorilla demands..Kyle obeys!!!!"



mama Alana...what to do???
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2005, 06:11:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-05 20:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

"
Quote

On 2005-04-21 16:41:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.


Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality."




HANG MAN COMING.....get a rope......she's still stealing their dope.....no hope...he's a wimp...peeks from the shadows....removes the boards......spies the sweets.......likes feet........she leads attacks......gives treats for stomping feet......baby kangaroo cried......barely breathing////HEY ALANA...JUST COMPLAINING????...........he steps in....gives two cents..........back looking,,,as his favorites are soaping............insane ASYLUM.........just a normal home........PLEASE...call TORI to testify................want to hold MAMA ALANA.....for she is a spy............director of many twisted LIES?????????.........AMF"




TORI ///   what to do....NEWS CREW...NORMAL ZOO!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2005, 11:32:00 PM
Posted: 2005-04-14 10:05:00  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 "like a normal home," RIGHT! That is the quote by the teen counselor, Tori, in the KSL story about the abuse of Joey--- as Tori was describing living conditions at the Whitmore.

Certainly hope her "normal home life" with mom Alana did not include throwing kids down stairs, yelling, screaming, physical abuse, spiting in kids' faces, withholding food as punishment, etc. Surely that isn't what Tori considers "a normal home" is it?


WHATS NOT TO UNDERSTAND??,,,..........normal man.........want to play KICK THE HEAD..ER CAN????
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2005, 11:46:00 PM
Yes, just thought this was a messed up girl doing teenage blabber until HER MOTHER, Alana posted here. Then got a dose of where this   girl was coming from! Mama Alana could not stop proclaiming how wonderful the WHITMORE EXPERIENCE has been for her daughter. HOW MUCH she loves and trusts the Suds. How much Tori has grown.  GROWN, from what? Beats all I have ever heard. Guess maybe all the bizzare happenings at THE WHITMORE just might SEEM like a "normal family" to Tori after all. BUT NOT TO THE REST OF THE WORLD, not by a long shot!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2005, 09:29:00 AM
Keep seeing the phrase: "Alana said Joey was a complainer." First of all, it does not appear that Alana, was there when this abuse of Joey was going on. So, this is "hearsay," on Alana's part, so whatever SHE says does not matter in the least!

Secondly, there was an independent investigation, that has documented and substantiated several counts of abuse and neglect--so it stands to REASON that SOMETHING happened to Joey.

There is a difference between "complaining" and "asking for help." Seems like Joey was ASKING for help in a BIG WAY.  The question should be---why did it take Joey so long to GET HELP in a small town when the police station was right across the street?

Thank goodness the Nephi Police did the RIGHT THING. They believed Joey, and held him in protective custody. Look at IVY RIDGE--those abused kids staged a riot to escape their ABUSERs...and the POLICE returned them to the school after charging the boys as criminals!

Joey---a complainer? No.
Alana has no voice in what happened to Joey. She only knows what she has been TOLD.
Joey will get to tell what happened to him; and only eye-witnesses will get to talk.
NOT people like Alana, who only parrot lies about a little boy--who was begging for help...NOT COMPLAINING, Lady!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
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lawyer JACK can resolve that........never happened.......the baby kangaroo is lying.....OUR first witness is VICTORIA DeGARMO......Miss DeGARMO//...is it a normal home?....yes........next I'd like to call mama Alana..........Miss mama Alana//...are some baby kangaroo's just complainers?....yes..........your honor that concludes our defense........obviously



the DeGARMO women have cleared things up......you see!!..................AMF



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QUICK DEFENSE........GO lawyer JACK.........

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$30 K for that??.......GO lawyer JACK
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2005, 10:48:00 AM
Think Alana better stay down in trailer park in Florida. Don't think she's brave enough to face Joey's truth. Not even Lawyer Jack can prepare her fot that.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2005, 05:44:00 PM
If reading these postings correct--Tori was a family friend of Joey's prior to this abused boy's enrollment at Whitmore. Tori, now an employee at Whitmore, AT BEST, sat back all the time this "family friend, Joey" was being abused, and never saw fit to call this young boy's parents, to intervene on this boy's behalf, or support this kid in any way. Is this how it all happened?
If so--as an employee of Whitmore, this gal has a lot of responsibility in this boy's abuse herself. She better be realizing that. Employees who observe, and have an awareness of abuse and fail to report it face legal problems themselves.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2005, 09:33:00 PM
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On 2005-05-19 14:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"If reading these postings correct--Tori was a family friend of Joey's prior to this abused boy's enrollment at Whitmore. Tori, now an employee at Whitmore, AT BEST, sat back all the time this "family friend, Joey" was being abused, and never saw fit to call this young boy's parents, to intervene on this boy's behalf, or support this kid in any way. Is this how it all happened?

If so--as an employee of Whitmore, this gal has a lot of responsibility in this boy's abuse herself. She better be realizing that. Employees who observe, and have an awareness of abuse and fail to report it face legal problems themselves."



YEP............YES.........ITS SO...TRUE it is.......before she joined the CLAN.....................heard it myself I did.......HEY TORI....the rest of the story???
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 20, 2005, 10:07:00 AM
JOHNNY LAW

need to interview the Employee, TORI, Miss Victoria DeGarmo.......she knows "fer sure"..was there.........admitted baby kangaroo was at fault."BIT THE HAND THAT FEEDS HIM", between the lines....quote actually means "GOT WHAT HE DESERVED".......

some interviews consistant..........how about the ones located at a distance........prior ZOO members, like several years ago.....tears and fears settled awhile.return of smiles.........bet they tell of the ASYLUM WILES...........
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 20, 2005, 10:20:00 AM
Miss VicTORIa loves talking to the press, so  will give interview... like it or not to authorities. Just may have to be under oath. Gorilla's gathering supporters, flying in ex-warriors. Troublbe IS those accepting INVITE are not her problem. Look around TWEAKER. Those NOT in attendance are the problem... and are friends of the TRUTH. Crying to the wrong crowd, Gorilla. They can't help.

Now what little boy DESERVED to be hit, slammed, beat, tied, humiliated, hurt, cursed, stomped VicTORIa? explain that Miss Peer Counselor, like-for-ever, what-ever, DUH.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 20, 2005, 12:23:00 PM
Joey DESERVED exactly what was in the contract his parents signed with the Sudweeks!
An education at a FULLY accredited school with certified teachers.
Therapy-individual and group with a licensed professional.
Three well-balanced, nutritional, safe, clean meals a day.
A safe, clean, healthy place in which to live, and sleep.. and sleep to be an adequate amount per night--no sleep deprivation.
For all students to be drug-free, with no criminial history, or history of violence.
For Joey to not be exposed to any physical punishment by ANYONE.
For Joey to have open, free, UNMONITORED communication with his parents.
For Joey to never be physically restrained in any manner.

These are a FEW things Joey DESERVED!
Forget the Sudweeks LIES about loving and caring about children.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2005, 10:08:00 AM
Yep rather simple--Joey DESERVED basic care, basic food, basic housing, basic therapy, basic education---and NO ABUSE.

Seems like the Sudweeks could have provided THAT on about $4,000 a month without ABUSING THE HELL OF OF THIS BOY.
And SEEMS like their "family friend, TORI" could have at least said: "PLEASE DON'T HURT HIM."
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 22, 2005, 02:28:00 PM
LOST INNOCENCE
Posted: 2005-05-20 18:41:00  
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 You can become unhinged and cut loose from the world. You can believe you are a permanent outsider. But the innocence of a child will bring you back and give you the shield of joy with which to protect yourself. I have learned this late in life but not too late. It's never too late.

It hurt me to think of the things our children would learn of this world. All I knew is I didn't want to teach them anything. I felt tainted by the paths I had taken in my life and the things I knew. I had nothing from it I wanted them to have. I just wanted them to teach me.


sOOn my love...REAL SOON
TO JAIL WITH YOU BOTH..!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 22, 2005, 10:50:00 PM
Here it is six months later and still no charges?  It appears now that this may have been a made up fairy tale?  No one has seen any evidence to date?  So what is one to think, it didn't happen or it did and Utah covered it up?

Just some unanswered questions?
Title: Joey
Post by: Antigen on May 22, 2005, 11:57:00 PM
Mark Wardle just got another license after a kid died in his last program. Wouldn't be the first time Utah turned a blind eye to child abuse.

As I said before, I take it w/ a grain of salt whenever I hear of Utah promising to crack down on the troubled parent industry. But, otoh, they did rule in favor of free speech wrt WWASP. So I'm holding out a little hope.

Patience, grasshopper!

By 1940 the literacy figure for all states stood at 96 percent for whites. Eighty percent for blacks. Notice for all the disadvantages blacks labored under, four of five were still literate. Six decades later, at the end of the 20th century, the National Adult Literacy Survey and the National Assessment of Educational Progress say 40 percent of blacks and 17 percent of whites can't read at all. Put another way, black illiteracy doubled, white illiteracy quadrupled, despite the fact that we spend three or four times as much real money on schooling as we did 60 years ago.
--Vin Suprynowicz



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Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 22, 2005, 11:59:00 PM
Absolutely not a fairy tale.
ONLY people who tell TALES are the Sudweeks.
Investigations of victimS, and multiple charges (note VICTIMS,not victim) takes time, and 6 months is not that long. And the State of Utah is doing its job!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2005, 12:14:00 AM
Anon who's concerned about "no evidence," go read the "Tweek and Peek don't like theraputic label" thread: the DCFS agency substantiated 8 counts of abuse and neglect by the Sudweeks...think perhaps that might be a bit of evidence. And REMEMBER the Sudweeks' license for a therapy treatment center was revoked by the State of Utah. Get real---this is not a fairy tale. This is serious business, and the County Attorney will not be sharing their file with the public. They have a criminial case to put together.
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 23, 2005, 02:10:00 AM
Take note....evidence GORILLA created..yes she did....many in the zoo fled.........talking they are...she knows the scars....some deep//make us weep.........KEEP this close to heart.......this is only a start.........documents, clues, photographs of the zoo,/// interviews// new clues....forgotten members of the zoo..........takes time........remember//..GORILLA is uncomfortable in her own skin...slime it is...hairy again......she needs to let loose........rage from her cage.....can't contain life around the sane.....no..her game is to walk the halls///calling names, blaming her pain..take from the young..maim, inflict cain........drive the willing insane (TORI)?.......ya, GORILLA is the ASYLUM shame........baby kangaroo and all the frEE ZOO know very well, her game
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2005, 09:37:00 AM
AMF is correct again!
The pattern of all reported November 2004 goes back years!!!!!!The evilness, cruelty, neglect, abusiveness is not new--the STORIES will be told and all will be exposed! Records are kept...and UNDER THE RUG, none of it has been swept!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2005, 08:15:00 PM
Posted: 2005-04-08 12:16:00  
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 I recall this one time, we were having dinner, after we had all prepared it, and Sheryl put ranch dressing on all the tables. Some of us merely asked if we could go and get some different dressings from the fridge, as we knew there were lots of other dressing in there. She said yeah, and didn't say much about it, because we could always use whatever dressing we wanted. Then she started going off on us. Saying that we were ungrateful and spoiled, and took things for granted. She said she purposely put only ranch out to see who would ask for different dressing. She had made presumptions prior to this about who she thought would ask for more. She made this huge deal about nothing. She seemed to do that a lot.

It was sooooo stressful living there. You had to anticipate everything that was going to be done during the day. If she wanted dinner to be started, or some cleaning to be done, you were just supposed to know about it. If you didn't participate, because lets say, you were up in your room studying or something, you would get yelled at hardcore.


Lest we forget............I admit// no regrets.....to focus on the cause.......send the offenders to OZ......time is our advantage.......more zoo members return to their sanctuary......all GORILLA has is worry.....tweaking in a hurry......angry and yelling...lawyer JACK to attack........fight between mates.......she can't wait, as PEEK ER masturbates........more evidence accumulates...little sweets assimilate, tell the same..............miles and years apart.............investigation has many branches...................be patient..................sOOn my love, sOOn...
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2005, 09:03:00 PM
Former zoo members accepting plane tickets from Gorilla, as she cries and begs for their to return to zoo.  Why returning to sanctuary? Only they can answer...but they're no help for Gorilla's pitiful cause...less help than LAWYER JACK who must be giving serious pause.
Lawyers hate to lose...and he must when he represents abusers from a zoo!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2005, 09:03:00 PM
Former zoo members accepting plane tickets from Gorilla, as she cries and begs for their to return to zoo.  Why returning to sanctuary? Only they can answer...but they're no help for Gorilla's pitiful cause...less help than LAWYER JACK who must be giving serious pause.
Lawyers hate to lose...and he must when he represents abusers from a zoo!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2005, 09:09:00 PM
How can Lawyer Jack attack? Seems he has his plate full just trying to DEFEND DEFEND DEFEND the Sudweeks! Lawyer Jack will be sitting at the Defense table!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2005, 09:15:00 PM
Is it true only Gorilla BOY-TOYS :eek:  are returning...and PEEKED UPONS are staying AWAY from the little weekend event Cheryl has planned????  Guess the Gorilla controls the purse strings and the plane-ticket-purchaeses, huh? :eek:  :eek:
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 23, 2005, 11:59:00 PM
I AM Like God, and God like ME.  I am as large as God, He is as small as I.  He cannot above ME, nor I beneath Him be.........

plagiarized by GORILLA'S self absorbed thoughts, while tweaking and occasionally sleeping........Oh, ya....his thrills of sweets, little young sweets.......cause all concern.....can't learn....just needs to burn..or stay awhile, OZ style
Title: Joey
Post by: Cayo Hueso on May 24, 2005, 08:03:00 AM
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On 2005-05-23 20:59:00, AMF wrote:

"I AM Like God, and God like ME.  I am as large as God, He is as small as I.  He cannot above ME, nor I beneath Him be.........


When I read this, all I could hear in my head was Robert DeNiro's voice.

Step 1. We came to understand that the government is powerless over people's private use of drugs and that the War on Drugs was making the government's life unmanageable.

--Scott Tillinghast

Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 24, 2005, 08:52:00 AM
Cayo,
When I read this, "I am like God, and God like me..." all I could think was IF Cheryl Sudweeks went around saying such a thing---then this  woman is more delusional than I ever thought!

It's one thing to rant, rave and pretend to be a therapist--but to self-elevate oneself to the level of GOD, COME ON!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Cayo Hueso on May 24, 2005, 09:05:00 AM
I know. DeNiro's character in Cape Fear quotes that scripture (I think it's scripture) in the movie.  He's a crazy bastard.  In the end he drowns while handcuffed to a sinking houseboat and babbling in "tongues".

I have always thought that all men should be free; but if any should be slaves, it should be first those who desire it for themselves, and secondly those who desire it for others.  Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.

--Abraham Lincoln

Title: Joey
Post by: BuzzKill on May 24, 2005, 09:50:00 AM
Thats not scripture.
Not out of the Bible anyway.
It is however, a fairly accurate expression of the Mormon belife that they are gods, able to become (if they work very hard) a god over their own world which they will populate with the spirt children they will make with their goddess wives.[ This Message was edited by: BuzzKill on 2005-05-24 06:52 ]
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 24, 2005, 09:54:00 AM
Buzzkill:

This is a MORMON BELIEF that people and God are equal?
Title: Joey
Post by: Cayo Hueso on May 24, 2005, 10:01:00 AM
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On 2005-05-24 06:50:00, BuzzKill wrote:

"Thats not scripture.

Not out of the Bible anyway.

It is however, a fairly accurate expression of the Mormon belife that they are gods, able to become (if they work very hard) a god over their own world which they will populate with the spirt children they will make with their goddess wives.[ This Message was edited by: BuzzKill on 2005-05-24 06:52 ]"


Very interesting.  The more I hear about the Mormom faith, the more it scares me.

I wasn't trying to knock religion here, DeNiro just creeped me out in that movie and the quote reminded me of it.

When elephants ? ght, it is the grass that suffers.

Kikuyu proverb

Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on May 24, 2005, 10:03:00 AM
Well: If Cheryl Sudweeks was spouting this bullshit to a bunch of kids at Whitmore Academy---these kids most certainly were not her "spirt children!"  They were, and are STUDENTS--whose PARENTS paid hard-earned money for these kids to receive an education, and therapy while under the care of the Sudweeks, PERIOD!

Now that the Sudweeks have had their license revoked by the State of Utah...and NOW that Mark Sudweeks has declared in the TRIBUNE that they are "no longer in the teen help business," all the Sudweeks should be offering at Whitmore is academics and NO THERAPY WHAT-SO-EVER.

So, the Sudweeks need to be concentrating on running an academic school...and not sneaking around doing THERAPY or ANY TYPE, and most certainly should not be recruiting special needs kids who definitely need therapy.
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 24, 2005, 10:42:00 AM
Selatius, 17 th century......
thought it was fitting...........

Yes, was from Cape Fear.........and the ending may be similar. "to the depths of hell with the both"
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 24, 2005, 10:58:00 AM
Well, perhaps Cheryl Sudweeks DID see the movie, CAPE FEAR, and got it there...they do go to lots of movies.
But still, and all...there is nothing GOD-like about this woman!
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 24, 2005, 03:39:00 PM
: Behold the pale horse. The man who sat on him was death, and Hell followed with him.

A woman like GORILLA has got a great big hole, right in the middle of herself. And she can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.

What does she want?
:Revenge.
For what?
:Bein' born.

How about ME......he still sneaking sweets??......hell,It don't matter......hours ticking..........all, including lawyer JACK going to take a licking..........still sticking to the story??, you too TORI?..........such a sad lot.......nailed to the floor, got caught......lies evened the score, the whore came clean..depo's revealed the same...many more zoo members crossing on over..........now discover the tweaking mother is wacked......many more speak and level the act............set them back........lacking any defense.......mad dash for the fence.  

TAKE YOUR MARK......................
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 26, 2005, 02:14:00 PM
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On 2005-05-04 20:38:00, Anonymous wrote:

"AMF?.give it a rest?..obsessed with Cheryl?.must see her fail?.can?t think of anything else ?.baby kangaroo, who do you do?AMF??? Give it a rest!   :wave: "


LAUGHABLE
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 26, 2005, 02:18:00 PM
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On 2005-05-11 03:18:00, chasingdogma wrote:

"Now you guys are resorting to name-calling?



Why does everyone have to act childish? Calling Tori, someone who is being accused of nothing a desert whore? What is your problem with her? Do you even know her? I think a lot of you guys are going overboard with your conspiracy theories.



I can't even understand what AMF is talking about half the time.





~chris"



WELL.....lets fill him in sOOn.......going to bur papers throughout the state??????????................sOOn my love..
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 26, 2005, 04:43:00 PM
AT THE VERY BEST--Tori is an employee of Whitmore Acacdemy who witnessed servere child abuse and did nothing to stop it, and failed to report it to authorities--and WHEN it was reported by the VICTIM, lied to protect the ABUSERS.
Does not have anything to do with being or not being a "desert whore," but that sure is breaking the law!!!!
And she qualifies for "stupid" too--saying what goes on at Whitmore is "what happens in all normal families." DUH, like 4-ever, like, oh, well, gee, I don't think so.
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 26, 2005, 06:29:00 PM
I belonged to the church, And to the party of prohibition;
And the villagers thought I died of eating watermelon.  
In truth I had bad case of the GORILLA,  For every noon for thirty years,
I slipped behind the prescription partition.took all the Ritalin, In Trainor's drug store?And poured a generous drink..From the bottle marked.."Spiritus frumenti."

PEEKER TOO?gona get sued?.LORD help?.can?t quit the guilt?GROUP I say??.need more to stay?TORI come this way??.pray the judge is CLAN?.DISCOVER WHO I AM??????
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 29, 2005, 09:46:00 AM
SOON MY LOVE>>>>>SOON!!!!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on May 31, 2005, 09:02:00 PM
hey, tweaker and peek er.........put em up...put em up......sOOn.........going to watch....arraingment....set BAIL........preliminary hearing.......trial date......she going to cop a plea???..........
peek er going for free???.............. //// such a dirty lot..........TORT court????...laugh alot....she is caught............"GET THEM THE FUCK OUT OF HERE"........

baby kangaroo to walk free....all about the ZOO
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 01, 2005, 02:07:00 PM
To what could Gorilla plea?
Wouldn't it be sort of like being a "little bit pregnant?"
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 02, 2005, 11:21:00 PM
Dog, you couldn't bust a poem if yo life depended on it or carry a bunch of them in a paper bag.

AMF WTF you ain't Chuck....nor joey.  kangaroo says "f" you...peaker and tweaker say "f" "u"!  and i say you couldn't bust a ryhme with a dime.  Which BTW is most likely what momma gave you for your edumacation obviously.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 03, 2005, 12:53:00 AM
Well, hello Cheryl--glad to see you back ole gal!
Hear things are really really hopping at the ole Mansion!!! Stairs...Parents mad...Gal's gone...two...WOW! TWEAKING are you?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 03, 2005, 03:02:00 AM
So glad to see you totally know your names there PEEK ER and TWEAKER!
TWEAKER, been dictaking any luv notes to PEEK ER lately, trying to make the whimpy hubby feel important?
Got a couple new witnesses or was it four?
What's with all the cuss words? Something got ya all riled up?
Where'd you get your degree? Mail ordered from Columbia Pacific maybe?
Ask DR B---he can get you one!!!
Roll call TWEAKER....everyone accounted for?
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 03, 2005, 12:30:00 PM
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On 2005-06-02 20:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Dog, you couldn't bust a poem if yo life depended on it or carry a bunch of them in a paper bag.



AMF WTF you ain't Chuck....nor joey.  kangaroo says "f" you...peaker and tweaker say "f" "u"!  and i say you couldn't bust a ryhme with a dime.  Which BTW is most likely what momma gave you for your edumacation obviously."


Are we crossed??....Does this mean we aren't friends?...I don't think I could bear it.........GORILLA wants impunity???.PEEK ER too???....no way..NEVER....not on my watch............NEXT!!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 03, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
No punishment for crimes?
Why PEEK ER and TWEAKER, that's just down right UN-AMERICAN!  Can't have that, now can we?

Seems that is just why they have those hateful policemen you dislike so much--and the courts--and a reason to pay LAWYER JACK, so he will talk to ya!

Maybe AMF can come up with a rhyme for ya!
Bet ya won't even be charged a dime!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 03, 2005, 03:38:00 PM
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On 2005-04-23 16:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"AMF: Of course Mark is just as much to blame as Cheryl-- he just isn't as "crazy acting" as she is. But he isn't any innocent bystander. He loves the word "NIGGER" just as much as she does. He also likes handcuffs, and curses the kids too. He stood and watched Joey being beat down at the Boy's House.  What a scumbag. His own wife belittles him, and makes fun of his whimpy self.  He's a joke!"


PEEK ER going to get it tOO.....abused the children at the zoo.........lOOked at the sweets tOO
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 03, 2005, 04:00:00 PM
GORILLA counts not months but moments, and has time enough. Time is a wealth of change, but the clock in its parody makes it mere change       and no wealth.  Let your life lightly dance on the edges of Time like dew on the tip of a leaf.  Gorilla dances in her underwear, like a rift in time.  She won?t cost another dime. Hell yes. She is depressed.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 05, 2005, 05:48:00 PM
On 2005-05-05 08:33:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Yes, Joey ran and called home, and was cowardly beaten at Cheryl's demand as she and Mark looked on; as did every Whitmore kid that wasn't MADE to participate in beating this child!
   Many of these children who observed this beating are home now--out of Cheryl's raving control! And free to tell the truth, and that should scare the hell out of this woman, and her evil, gutless husband.
   Explain this event to your high-paid lawyer--but you better tell him the truth Mr. and Mrs. Sudweeks; and not let him be surprised, and hear it the first time, THE RIGHT WAY, from a court room full of TRUTH-TELLING eye-witneesses!!!!!

but the SUDS aren't perfect...eh, their flawed too..........criminal you say....no, just flawed....excuse them....they mean well...TORI is an example....MISS GENTILE...all smiles...love that Mark and Cheryl....their GODS gift they are.........zoo is soooooo mean.....mindless parents posting on FORNITS....get a life..........???????........defending the SUDS is alot of work.....think it will fly??????
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 05, 2005, 10:07:00 PM
Respond to this Miss Gentile. Explain this away if you can. Just a little flawed are the Sudweeks? Those Whitmore kids--INCLUDEING YOUR SON-- had to watch this boy being kicked and stomped and punched at Cheryl's demand, while she and her husband HAPPILY looked on! I bet your wondering why this little boy didn't just fight back, huh? Well he couln't; because your friend, Cheryl had him TIED UP FIRST. I bet you wonder why this little boy didn't just call out for help, huh? Well, he couldn't, because your friend, Cheryl had him GAGGED FIRST.
Your friend, Cheryl is not FLAWED Miss Gentile, she is evil to the core as is her whimpy assed husband!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2005, 06:07:00 PM
my response is my son was 17 when he went there and i am certain he had never struck another child in his life.  no school fights nothing. no one ever abused him there in any way that came from his mouth and if my son put his hand on joey then he is to blame because no one on earth could make the chris i know phsically touch any one.  He would also know to follow what he has learned from me for 17 years and that would be not to participate in violence against anyone and if he did he is responsible.  I think younger kids can be influenced but not 17 yr olds.  I feel very sorry for joey because with all of this on the web i dont know how he will ever move on emotionally. Does anyone know how he is?    mary
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2005, 06:53:00 PM
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On 2005-06-06 15:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

" I feel very sorry for joey because with all of this on the web i dont know how he will ever move on emotionally. Does anyone know how he is?    mary"


GREAT.....FEEL for baby kangaroo........big deal....such compassion.....you MOVE on MISS GENTILE...how about action to prevent more kids from the zoo getting hurt.......don't ask about OUR baby kangaroo.............your just a mouth piece for GORILLA....go pound sand ma am
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 06, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
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On 2005-06-06 15:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

"my response is my son was 17 when he went there and if my son put his hand on joey then he is to blame because no one on earth could make the chris i know phsically touch any one.   mary"


I would kill for diner.....assault for lunch....push,shove,hit,slap..double tap for love from the GOV..hell, I don't know.....to be free of pain...stay in the ASYLUM game....I would inflict grief.....GORILLA insists....need to please...like clean sheets // treats //  visit the sweets....PEEK ER has power tOO....need to please both...like shoes...gangland ROB's crew.....more stew?....she will let us know when he's trough.................
"GET baby kangaroo THE FUCK OUT OF HERE"....tweaker dancing in her underwear.....
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2005, 07:32:00 PM
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On 2005-06-06 15:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

"if my son put his hand on joey then he is to blame because no one on earth could make the chris i know phsically touch any one. "


May be time to face up to the fact that your son is probably not the same as he was. He may talk the talk, but it sounds to me like he is doing some soul searching and could use his moms open heart and mind.

My best wishes to your family, I pray that you will all be ok after experiencing Whitmore acadamy.

All is not as it seems, open your heart and your mind.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
My child was a witness to Joey's abuse, and Chris never hurt Joey in any way. You should know your son well enough to know he would not participate in abusing another kid. All he did was lie to protect Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks about their abusing of kids at the Whitmore. AND kids like my child and Joey can recover emotionally from what they suffered at Whitmore from the Sudweeks, as horrible as it was. It should have never have happened! We all sent our kids to the Whitmore as PER OUR CONTRACTS for education and therapy--not to be abused in ANY manner.
The really sad part: The Sudweeks have continued to abuse kids SINCE NOVEMBER 2004---including this past Parents Weekend.  What happened to Carl was child abuse, PERIOD.  Not allowing the kids to eat all day Friday was child abuse PERIOD.  Keeping those kids up until 3AM for a raving Cheryl GROUP SESSION and having them sleep deprived was child abuse, PERIOD.  Cherly Sudweeks throwing Matt down the basement stairs was child abuse, PERIOD!  The abuses have not stopped.
The Sudweeks must be held accountable for all their abuses of these children!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2005, 08:29:00 PM
Miss Gentile you can  support the Sudweeks all you want but you are not going to get an ounce of understanding about THAT here. Not an ounce. You should take the advice offered a couple of posting above and open your mind to your son and listen and learn what the Sudweeks are REALLY ABOUT. Why would Chris lie to you? What could he possibly have to gain by telling lies about them to you?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2005, 09:00:00 PM
Mary, what do you mean "with all this on the web how can Joey move forward.??
Do you actually THINK that the parents of these abused children actually allow their wounded, damaged children to know about this site, or to visit this site?  OF COURSE they don't!!! These children are in school, doing their regular activities--sports, music etc...they are involved in their day-to-day lives with their friends, families, and their on-going therapy. Their parents are INVOLVED in this site.  The kids are victims, and future witnesses in a criminal case--so they must be shielded from involvment in this type of forum.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 06, 2005, 09:09:00 PM
Miss Gentile: You were asked to respond to what you THINK ABOUT YOUR FRIENDS THE SUDWEEKS HAPPILY ordering this boy to be beaten while he was tied and gagged:

What is your response to THAT?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2005, 02:13:00 AM
Mark and Cheryl SUDWEEKS beat Joey numerous times. I was there with him, through thick and thin. The SUDWEEKS are going to be arrested, soon.  The truth needs to be made known.  The WHITMORE supporters constantly say the posts are negative, rather they should state, the truth HURTS.

Got to go, Cheryl is making my write lies on a posting titled "MY STORY"....sOOn my love

Sincerely,
Stephan
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2005, 02:19:00 AM
What do you mean "Cheryl is making me write lies on a posting titled MY STORY...."

Where are you writing from?
Didn't you just leave Whitmore?  How can Cheryl MAKE you do anything?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2005, 02:20:00 AM
Posted: 2005-05-06 14:03:00  
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 MARK and CHERYL SUDWEEKS of WHITMORE BOARDING ACADEMY & SCHOOL (asylum hall) were charged today with numerous counts of child abuse, neglect, assault, and breach of contract............additional information is forthcoming. CHERYL SUDWEEKS, the self proclaimed asylum govenor is recovering from psychosomatic stress syndrome, due to her heavy periods of ritalin abuse.....several former students from around the country have arrived and are awaiting the opportunity to reveal the facts before the JUDGE....lawyer JACK
(MATT HILTON).....is attempting to discredit the former students of the zoo....although, a baby kangaroo appears very crediable...and seems to have the support of the entire nation...........more to follow as this story continues to unfold......Victoria DeGarmo, of the zoo news, reporting (as mama ALANA is asleep)...........I'M out................AMF

TOMORROWS PAPER
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on June 07, 2005, 02:23:00 AM
[ This Message was edited by: Joyce Harris on 2006-03-31 19:31 ]
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2005, 02:33:00 PM
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On 2005-06-06 23:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What do you mean "Cheryl is making me write lies on a posting titled MY STORY...."



Where are you writing from?

Didn't you just leave Whitmore?  How can Cheryl MAKE you do anything?"


Some of you are dense. Did it ever occur to you that maybe he didn't write those replies? It's pretty obvious AMF wrote that.....'sOOn my love' gives it away.
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 07, 2005, 03:12:00 PM
Detectives were knott...LOL.............just nice to laugh alot............main goal....serious fact.......going to spank GORILLA and PEEK ER alike..........to a cell....face their torment in hell.........double tap.......she's about to freak.........28 days in the hole....LIKE a tweaking mole.......his teeth ache.......life of sweets to end............out to sea......hit tell they can't breath..........we'll all see
Title: Joey
Post by: Joyce Harris on June 07, 2005, 05:02:00 PM
DUH  DUH  DUH

I am dense.
Title: Joey
Post by: Cayo Hueso on June 07, 2005, 09:55:00 PM
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On 2005-06-06 17:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Miss Gentile you can  support the Sudweeks all you want but you are not going to get an ounce of understanding about THAT here. Not an ounce. You should take the advice offered a couple of posting above and open your mind to your son and listen and learn what the Sudweeks are REALLY ABOUT. Why would Chris lie to you? What could he possibly have to gain by telling lies about them to you?"


Could this be why Chris was seemingly 'grateful' to Whitmore and the Suds??  :???:  Comparatively speaking, if this was in fact the same Chris, maybe it gives us a better insight into his indoctrination.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... =100#79302 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=3004&forum=9&start=100#79302)


my name is chris and i attended both ivy ridge and the whitmore academy... jason finlinson is an evil man, but not nearly as wicked or cruel as his assistant director george tulip.. never in my entire life have i met a human being capable of doing what he can do to others. Finlinson has his own method of beating kids that he likes to call the "finlinson flop" all that has to be said about this is he is a violent man, as are 90% of the hoodlums that work there. I do feel sorry for the normal guys that work here that are just looking for a way to pay their bills. unfortunately in odgnesburg there arent many options as far as employment. thats why ivy ridge is one of the top non-skilled employers in that area. some of the guys like paxton, whos been working there from the beginnnig really know its bullshit even though they try to act like they'r behind it. If your a potential parent, Please dont put your kid through WWASP, so many kids are sitting there tonight as I type this living a nightmare that could only haunt you in their dreams. They sit there defenseless in a world where no one can hear them scream. The only thing worse then living this life is not being able to tell anyone. If you were at Ivy Ridge its time to face the reality and speak up. Drop names... dont let them hide their actions inside that dreadful building. ~c

From the bottom of any large organization looking up through the ranks, human greed and stupidity look a lot like a conspiracy.
--S. Gilbert

Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2005, 11:25:00 PM
Comparing Ivy Ridge to Whitmore--guess it could have made Whitmore "not seem all THAT BAD to Chris." But that does not negate the severe abuse suffered by these kids at Whitmore at the hands of the Sudweeks. Talking to kids who are reporting abuse from the early years with the Sudweeks up through the past few weeks--the Sudweeks' "brand of abuse" appears to be escalating. Give them enough time--and they will be right up there with Ivy Ridge, mark my words. Surely, this investigation and impending arrests will stop them cold.
Title: Joey
Post by: Cayo Hueso on June 08, 2005, 12:41:00 AM
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On 2005-06-07 20:25:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Comparing Ivy Ridge to Whitmore--guess it could have made Whitmore "not seem all THAT BAD to Chris." But that does not negate the severe abuse suffered by these kids at Whitmore at the hands of the Sudweeks.

No it does not!  I was just wondering if he came from a more 'bootcamp' like school to the "loving" Whitmore home  :roll: It may have seemed to him at the time to be something at least was comparatively safe.  Ivy Ridge was WWASP, correct?  PURE recommends Whitmore and one of their strongest points is that they're not like the "other" guys.  They do Modify you kids Behavoir with all these claims of being the kinder, gentler voice of reason adn they use all this talk of "love" and "family".  

You guys should really look up these links and read them carefully and with AN OPEN MIND.

http://www.ex-cult.org/General/lifton-criteria (http://www.ex-cult.org/General/lifton-criteria)

http://www.ex-cult.org/bite.html (http://www.ex-cult.org/bite.html)

 
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Talking to kids who are reporting abuse from the early years with the Sudweeks up through the past few weeks--the Sudweeks' "brand of abuse" appears to be escalating. Give them enough time--and they will be right up there with Ivy Ridge, mark my words. Surely, this investigation and impending arrests will stop them cold."


Oh I have no doubt abou that.  

Just wondering if this was the same Chris

What are politicians going to tell people when the Constitution is gone and we still have a drug problem?
--William Simpson

Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2005, 01:25:00 AM
Chris G. will have to answer you, but do know he was at Ivy Ridge prior to coming to Whitmore; and he was brought to Whitmore by Sue Scheff of PURE.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2005, 01:31:00 AM
Thanks for the references re: cults.
Amazing, insightful....scary to realize what these kids are exposed to.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2005, 08:33:00 AM
You are mis informed about how chris got to whitmore, i cant believe yall post things as fact when you dont know.   I am his mom i think i alone know how he got there and he was extremely abused at ivy ridge and loved at whitmore you dont see him posting anything he is moving on and wishes the friends he made there the same.   mary
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
How did Chris get to Whitmore? How did YOU find out about Whitmore Academy, if not through Sue Scheff at PURE?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2005, 11:03:00 AM
That's a good question, since Tim Lowe has given statement that 100% of all placements at Whitmore prior to November 2004 came through PURE.
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 08, 2005, 02:14:00 PM
at last...........hour glass......no pass...their going to be arressted.....just off the phone....throw GORILLA a bone....last snack........smack PEEK ER fella........last sweets????.......face to face sOOn........lOOking for the future blue mOOn.........watch your back?.....laughable...safest place for you twOO is jail....FLATFOOTS all aroung......going to put you both down...zoo style..........rest awhile...28 days in the hay...........pray you both sweat only in the hay
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2005, 04:50:00 PM
Hope you're right! Sounds great!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
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On 2005-05-23 20:59:00, AMF wrote:

"I AM Like God, and God like ME.  I am as large as God, He is as small as I.  He cannot above ME, nor I beneath Him be.........


LOVE IT.  SWEET!!!...BLIND SIDED BY THEIR OWN AROGANCE...LET'S SEE, mama Alana is surly arrogant....young TORI tOO....how about MARY....seems sOO.............zoo keepers weak......follow GORILLA over the clift...........sad lot...sad lives......see ya all in court......graveside service???.....LOL
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2005, 05:52:00 PM
why dont you ask my son if i have a arogant bone in my body ithink he would tell you that is not one of my flaws.  plenty of others just not that.  mary
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 08, 2005, 07:15:00 PM
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On 2005-04-23 10:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-04-21 16:41:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.


Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality."






It truly is a shame....Cheryls sad game..also Mark is to blame.........ASYLUM fame as they all fall into the abyss of torment and refining flames......only way to redeem this team.is to convict...repent...........due their time........get involved in a new line..................no more SUDWEEKs ASYLUM  in the fine state of Utah....AMF "


How do you respond MOTHER MARY????.....how about TORI.....sister TORI???..........such a sad story.....not working for mother glory (CHERYL) ANY MORE????...................off to CAMP????
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 08, 2005, 10:06:00 PM
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On 2005-04-30 11:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Matthew M. F. Hilton

Matthew Hilton, PC

Provo, Utah

(Utah Co.)



 Joey didn't conform to Chery's little GROUP THERAPY--so he was removed from the group by her DEMAND and beaten badly on several occasions...stomped, kicked, punched--hurt badly. Once sent to the "bunk room" to exercise, and beat when he stopped, for 3 straight hours.

Once he DARED to call home, was REALLY beaten badly at the boy's house in a cowardly way as Mark and Cheryl looked on...evil, evil, evil. Cheryl "helped Joey down the basement stairs," and laughed like a witch...and then continued her SICK GROUP LEADERSHIP SESSION. Other incidents, too. But this was some highlights of Joey's stay at Whitmore---but Joey endured, and he was brave in the face of torment and evilness of the Sudweeks' brutality.



DEFEND THIS TRASH......will follow you for life...........I'll make my MISSION...lol"


GOING TO GET ME SOME......SUDWEEKS GOING TO GET FLUSHED.............MY MISSION
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 12:08:00 AM
meet baby kangaroo and you too will feel as I do.........I love all the children in the zoo........to bad this has to start out sad..........note this:: I won't go away...give in to strays......turn for money,power, or a new chin.......TWEAKER and PEEK ER going to face their sin......in the pin......before a judge and civil TIN.....no big mystery as to me....just focus on baby kangaroos misery.....lest we let shame blind us...and the SUDWEEKS spread more mistrust.........it is a reckoning....no mistake........going to rake them over fire....refine//confine them pure......."GET HER THE FUCK OUT OF HERE"..........AMF

DOES IT MATTER ~chris???

GORILLA TO JAIL......THAN i'LL TELL........TO HELL WITH EM BOTH x2
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 01:25:00 PM
yea this is ROB. this is the 1 and only time ima be on this site and i gotta clear up 1 thing. dont ever post my name up on this site, especially when u dont gotta clue what tha hell ur sayin. Obviously you gotta problem with the whitmore and cheryl and mark, and if you gotta problem with me you can address me on that personally, but when you talk all that BS that you dont know about like me boxing the hell outta joey and beatin' joey for 4 hours, shit just gets old. so 4 tha record, i know i never touched joey once. and if you know me u would know that i dont put tha gloves on with little kids like that, and if i do i just teach them. I like joey a lot. but im tired of hearin from other people about all tha bullshit being posted about me, i never been on this site b4 now and i wont after this, but wutever im jus lettin u know whats on my mind 4 once....peace
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 01:35:00 PM
gangland ROB..sure were going to meet sOOn..........I'll have boots....upside your head you little TURD
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 01:50:00 PM
Hello ROB--may be time for you to start telling the TRUTH young man. Sudweeks will hang you out there to take a rap for them if they think they can. BEWARE!!! Can't lie out of this one! TOO TOO many witnesses.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 01:52:00 PM
Rob call the Suds and tell them where you are hiding those run away boys. People are worried about them.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 01:57:00 PM
Just what were you "teaching this little boy," huh Rob? All that macho gang stuff you talked about in Group true???? Understand you have a bit of an anger problem, huh? Cheryl won't let you take your meds and you get all out of control do you? Hear it pretty scary watching you in those fits of anger. Understand Cheryl likes you in that state. What's the deal, Rob?
Where you hanging since "graduation?" Cheryl did let you "graduate" didn't she?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 02:48:00 PM
y'all are funny. its easy 2 talk shit on the net aint it sweet?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 02:48:00 PM
and yea that was me, Gangland Rob.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 02:52:00 PM
haha yall people are so gay. -Sarah
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 03:37:00 PM
go play with your horse Sarah. Only friend you can find?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 03:57:00 PM
hahaha..just got back from grazing him..nah..i got friends..he makes a good one though! Thanks
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 04:15:00 PM
all of a sudden ur all so speechless right.I think it's pretty stupid that, all u are up on this site trying to shut cheryl and mark down, but now u all got all this shit talking on me an Sarah. you realize that we aint runnin no business, you cant get us shut down for nothin, so whats wit tha loose gums. i come on here for one time and already i got people tryin 2 antagonize me an shit, i thought this was about the whitmore, but yo dont say nothin else 2 me unless you gonna stop bein so scared and say ur name - Gangland Rob

thats a clever name by the way who made it up?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 04:20:00 PM
looks like a lot of you jus get on this site to get out some bitterness you was obviously too scared to bring up while u was in Utah. but that's your problem i dont even care. and it's obvious you real bitter on me too, that's fine too. but you on a computer probly across the country, Big Bad Gangland Rob can't get you no more, it's time to not be scared anymore little one, and its time to tell me who you are and whats your problem with me...thats all i gotta say
-BIG BAD Gangland Rob

i really like that name
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 09, 2005, 04:26:00 PM
Well, this forum has made the turn..the frenzy before the arrests.........officially known now as COMMUNITY THEATER............cast of characters:::    

TWEAKER,               played by GORILLA
PEEK ER fella,         played by himself
holy roller,           played by mother MARY
lawyer JACK            played by Matt Hilton
DIRT CLOD              played by gangland ROB
baby kangaroo          played by himself
TORI                   TORI
zoo crew               kids in the zoo

ADD to list...........frenzy day..........arrest filings hours away...dancing in her underwear..........practice: GROUP! GROUP!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 04:26:00 PM
"can't get you no more?"  THOUGHT you never hurt some little kid, ROB!!!
Which is it? If you are going to post, how about getting a bit honest, OK?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 04:28:00 PM
HEY ROB, you don't have to be MAMA CHERYL'S pit bull anymore. Think for yourself, and cut the shit.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 04:30:00 PM
Hear the Gorilla's drooling...isn't that a delightful mental picture?
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 09, 2005, 04:33:00 PM
DIRT CLOD ROB.......job application::

job experience     14 months as GORILLAS lap dog
education          english major
job skills         work UP man
goals              stay out of jail and clear
                   of baby kangaroos FATHER
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 04:38:00 PM
who the hell calls someone a dirt clod? hahahaha..so fuckin gay. -Sarah
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 05:32:00 PM
im sorry but #1 grow up, #2 ROb is graduated and he has a great life, and he has no clue where any runaways are, maybe if u werent so busy worryin about RObs life and their life maybe u could start one of your own...huh...huh. if u dont know someone, besides wut u have hurd in group or what people be talkin, then it is a very good idea to mind ya own....ok?? try it, it really is fun once u get use to it!!!
ganglands girl!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 05:43:00 PM
So glad Rob has a girl that can talk gang talk right along with him. HOW NICE!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 05:44:00 PM
AMF you talk a lot of shit behind a screen name and all these anonymous postings you do. Grow up. Attach a name to the trash you talk. Don't even say you aren't scared, because if you weren't you'd sign your posts. It's real easy to talk all this shit behind a keyboard....I guarantee you'd be shaking if you were face to face with any of the people you slander and talk down on on a daily basis. You must be very insecure and spend a lot of time crying the dark.

Chris C.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 05:46:00 PM
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On 2005-06-09 14:43:00, Anonymous wrote:

"So glad Rob has a girl that can talk gang talk right along with him. HOW NICE!"


I'm sorry buy did you have a cup of bleach with your cheerios this morning? Where is she talking "gang talk"?

Chris C.
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 09, 2005, 06:25:00 PM
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On 2005-06-09 14:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"AMF ...I guarantee you'd be shaking if you were face to face with any of the people you slander and talk down on on a daily basis. You must be very insecure and spend a lot of time crying the dark.

Chris C."


Why Chris C., are we crossed?  I don't think I could bare it if we weren't friends.  Slander?  Harsh my boy.  I believe you have to have a solid reputation to be slandered.  None of the current leadership at the ASYLUM qualifies.

Insecure, maybe.  Crying all the time?  No, not me.  But I'm willing to bet I will be present for the sheding of many tears.  Shame, blame, misfortunes games......Ya, many tears to fall all around ASYLUM hall.............stand tall my boy.......I'll be out back smacking the hell out of DIRT CLOD........................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 07:38:00 PM
i find it funny when people threaten someone on a FORUM...ohhh nooooo! Thats scary ::cough cough:: -Sarah
Once again, who the hell calls someone a dirt clod?..you fucking moron  hahahaha
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 07:44:00 PM
thank u a lot chris...as far as the pussy behind all the talkin...when u can finally say who u really are i might consider listenin to what u have to say but #1 i will back Rob up against your stupid ass any day and sorry i dont talk gang, do u even know what a gang is??? not the buttercream gang honey, their family, u wouldnt know anything about family though because u spend all your damn time talkin shit on here and bein a little bitch...grow up and grow some balls while youre at it because u still aint said who u were but maybe one day u will realize how much your life SUCKS>>>>

robs little gang girl...ha...grow up
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2005, 10:42:00 PM
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On 2005-06-09 16:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

" life SUCKS>>>>



robs little gang girl...ha...grow up"


24 IS A MILLION miles away......rocks and CLODS mark the trail....path of dispair, glimpse of stars....hours of wasted thoughts...didn't know it I would stall.....24 is too young to lose it all.........
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 10, 2005, 11:05:00 AM
Sure anonymous, and your post full of "pussy, ass, damn, shit, bitch, balls, aint..." sure does make you look educated and like someone just everybody would want to listen to and BELIEVE. TRASH! Cheryl did a good job on you, didn't she?  All in the FAMILY.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 10, 2005, 11:37:00 AM
wurd up. Thanks for the compliment..i got my life str8..so i cuss..who gives a FUCK! hahaha.
-Sarah
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 10, 2005, 01:44:00 PM
damn sounds like someone is a mighty good poet...u still on here wastin time like usual it seems....
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 10, 2005, 04:44:00 PM
baby kangaroo need a warrant...........SMACK.... hey CHERYL.....johnny law lOOking for YOU baby!!!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 12, 2005, 01:19:00 AM
baby kangaroo coming to town...sOOn.....no blue moon.......the truth and facts.......lawyer JACK advises she cop a plea.........condition though...//....3 years no minors............no GROUP!!...........lots of sleep.........just a wondering stray..........banished to the lake........Ritalin got shake....no zoo games...blame and grief.........bet the MARK........walk to separate ends of the park...far cry from the former wise guys.................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 18, 2005, 01:13:00 PM
TIDE is a changing
Posted: 2005-06-11 22:19:00  
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 baby kangaroo coming to town...sOOn.....no blue moon.......the truth and facts.......lawyer JACK advises she cop a plea.........condition though...//....3 years no minors............no GROUP!!...........lots of sleep.........just a wondering stray..........banished to the lake........Ritalin got shake....no zoo games...blame and grief.........bet the MARK........walk to separate ends of the park...far cry from the former wise guys.................AMF

soul for sale dear??..??..??....GORILLA having a tough time....deep seated depression, complaining and explaining all the time  /// I hear.........can't seem to shake her self induced despair........no GROUP....sitting alone on the new throne.....ugly stoop below the pigeon coup........can't understand why she can't fly...........despair as she cleans the fallen shIT from her hair............sad life..sad wife......despair may lead to thoughts of ending her ----?..........28 days in the hole...put up like a mole........she lacks the compassion.....she sold her soul........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2005, 03:44:00 PM
What's Gorilla to do? All thoughts on who to sue and on sue sue sue!!!!!!! Arraingment on Monday, what will she do do do?
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 19, 2005, 08:34:00 PM
hey cheryl, you sweet creation..............this week ought to cause you grief.........criminal arraignment, bail, court dates...but WAIT....more in store!!!.civil case to help you waste away......next store you blood sucking WHORE............fun and games indeed.......lots to read.........all about your evil seeds (deeds)..............ya CHERYL SUDWEEKS you have needs.......you ain't no daisy...no your not!!........just a blood sucking nasty clot...........sOOn my love..sOOn.........AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: AMF on June 22, 2005, 08:29:00 PM
baby kangaroo in town?.....she's sweating banana's...................LOL....judge ROY ain't CLAN..................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 22, 2005, 11:07:00 PM
Who all is in town? Lap tops everywhere!!! Tomorrow's the show. Cheryl's center stage. SMILE big girl! Smile!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2005, 01:38:00 AM
Think the Suds will drag all those Whitmore kids down to that Court House like they did when Mark Sudweeks SLAPPED that small claims suit on that 18 year old former student? Probably. That's their lowly style. Because it's THEIR FAMILY! The other Judge cleared out her court room, and sent Cheryl and those kids out of there so she could conduct business. Thought the days of criminal cases involving FAMILY were a thing of the past--but guess not. These are the SUDS.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2005, 08:54:00 AM
no show what do ya know
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2005, 09:40:00 AM
Nah, you have to be there, Gorilla! Bring your banana!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2005, 10:25:00 AM
NEW CRIMINAL ATTORNEY??????

New COURT DATE?????
That's the Suds'Game!!!!!!!

That's what Gorilla needs--"CRIMINAL" lawyer!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on June 23, 2005, 10:44:00 AM
More time to gather facts...bye bye Lawyer Jack!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 01, 2005, 07:07:00 PM
YA baby!!!.........come over here darling girl...ya, you CHERYL.....share your troubles.....OH, CIVIL suit to bOOt......that's a shame......who ya going to blame?....the same???.....name them all.............come on CHERYL....give us a call...................support them during their TORTS....last resort..............dancing in her shorts...................no more ASYLUM fort...........just civil and criminal COURT!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 01, 2005, 08:31:00 PM
truthful young man he is.........hear CHERYL is WORRIED as to the facts .......suddenly she doesn't recall........due to a drug induced fall your honor......must postpone..........needs many months at home............../// won't work dear.....see there is a clause........santa knows........choose a path....fight or flight???..........sOOn my love, sOOn
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2005, 06:25:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-04-29 10:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Suds have too many lies to cover. Too many talking to authorities, and Suds don't have contol over former students who are talking, talking, talking. That cult control wears off Mr. and Mrs. Suds."


SMOKE THIS ALANA.................TORI MARCHING ON??????.......YOUR TURN DEAR......GET OUT OF THE STREET..........CHOSE A SIDE???
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
civil suits are public record.....look it up via the local county court records.....down load the complaint if you must..send a copy to ALANA...UNCLE SAM, and all the ASYLUM CLAN......AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 05, 2005, 02:57:00 PM
post a copy
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2005, 12:32:00 PM
do the footwork.........CHERYL and MARK are cooked....their sad life has forever changed.....scarlet letter to bOOt....jump, skip, hop, sister sue....not going to survive the loss of the money store.........CHERYL SUDWEEKS is still a filthy, blood sucking WHORE.............AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2005, 12:41:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-06-07 12:12:00, AMF wrote:

"Detectives were knott...LOL.............just nice to laugh alot............main goal....serious fact.......going to spank GORILLA and PEEK ER alike..........to a cell....face their torment in hell.........double tap.......she's about to freak.........28 days in the hole....LIKE a tweaking mole.......his teeth ache.......life of sweets to end............out to sea......hit tell they can't breath..........we'll all see"


sOOn my love, sOOn................
Title: Joey
Post by: OverLordd on July 13, 2005, 01:47:00 PM
God I love posts like that, their always so funny and up lifting, as long as they make sence. :lol:
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-11 10:59:00, Antigen wrote:

"Never let your dogma run out in front of your "


REMEMBER WHEN???................why not slam HER for HER shit????..........I for one will see this through............until she pays all the bills.........take her money store???..DAM straight................filthy, blood sucking whore /// is running for the gate..........CHERYL SUDWEEKS tears are all tOO late...........stand by..................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2005, 07:26:00 PM
Be careful AMF, you will be threaten next!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2005, 08:37:00 PM
Posted: 2005-05-08 12:56:00  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 I believe AMF and Whitmore's Shining Star are the same person.


Does anyone else see the obvious connections in writing styles, etc...

~ chris

CHERYL SUDWEEKS is Gorilla, tweaker, wife of peek er, GOV, queen of mean???...ya.....and more.....a filthy, blood sucking whore.................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2005, 12:12:00 AM
Think  she's also posting as "lovely"
Now doesn't that have a nice ring to it?
"lovely" dirt bag filty whore.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2005, 03:59:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-02 13:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Say When..........fly out and comfort the poor SUDS as they go through this unwarranted crap..........laughable........the Suds are through.............PERIOD........tweaker and peek'er are all washed up........criminal///civil/////////heck their tied up for years..............the gravy train is about to end.............because ONE had the courage...............that opened the path for others.............case BUILT...........takes time.............this is not about support..........heck, TORI had a wonderful experience as the events occurred all around her...........so............memories serve as we recall.........double tap...rap.rap....time to nap sister sue..who???...ASYLUM governing crew that's who..sue you..............blodd sucking -----.....AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2005, 09:23:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-05-09 23:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I concur, she's a wicked woman.....CHERYL SUDWEEKS is a liar, cheat, and thief.....nothing but misery, pain, and grief..... to most, except TORI.......this waste of a woman is atop my shit list...........you see its like this........she pushed, fussed, and cussed.......caused the baby kangaroo much pain.........I for ONE.......will be in court to hear her explain......she will squeel, wiggle, and scream.....ain't no big deal///ain't no shame...........got the REPORTER and CLARIFIER to speek of my good name........wheel and deal///attack it all per lawyer JACK......can't keep quiet......blah,blah,blah.....many in the ZOO state what they saw........too much fact////zoo keeper PEEK ER,TWEAKER, mama ALANA, reporter VICTORIA boo and hiss..............going to be a great show...circus and this...........all former ZOO members don't want to miss............AMF"


Cheryl "lovely"....come out come out...ally ally auction FREE................
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2005, 12:24:00 PM
Is this the boy she beat?  How many of the seven charges involve this boy?  Cheryl, can you explain?  Did Cheryl Sudweeks, of Whitmore Boarding School, represented by attorney James Merrell, beat and abuse a fifteen year old sudent?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on July 24, 2005, 10:51:00 AM
It WILL be explained in this criminal trial, along with what happened to the other three victims; make no mistake about that!
Title: Joey
Post by: samoan_built on August 01, 2005, 02:49:00 AM
sorry to be mean, but you are all idiots, cowards hiding behind your paper bad faces. cheryl is a saint, nothing you can say will change that. she's sacrificed so much 4 these kids, she has a place in heaven, in the highest degree of glory, her and mark. and i dont care what any of you say about her. im cheryls kid thru and thru.
nate
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2005, 10:14:00 AM
SAINTS do not abuse children, SAINTS do not cheat parents out of money, SAINTS do not lie, SAINTS do not manipulate children.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2005, 12:34:00 AM
What exactly has Cheryl "sacrificed?" that's what I'd like to know!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2005, 01:48:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-08-01 07:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

"SAINTS do not abuse children, SAINTS do not cheat parents out of money, SAINTS do not lie, SAINTS do not manipulate children."


This statement is absolutely 100 percent FALSE.

Michelle Sutton (who was Mormon) was killed in an abusive program run by a Mormon name Gayle Palmer DeGraff.

These 4 teens also lost their lives in "Saint" run programs:

Kristen Chase (Challenger)
Aaron Bacon (North Star)
Ian August (Skyline Journey)
Katie Lank (Red Rock Academy)

Please, you may believe what you wish about the Sudweeks but the fact is, even SAINTS are not immune from abusing children under the guise of therapy.

Barbe
TAUSA
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/foreveryoung.html (http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/foreveryoung.html)
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2005, 01:57:00 AM
Quote
On 2005-07-31 23:49:00, krazymormon wrote:

"sorry to be mean, but you are all idiots, cowards hiding behind your paper bad faces. cheryl is a saint, nothing you can say will change that. she's sacrificed so much 4 these kids, she has a place in heaven, in the highest degree of glory, her and mark. and i dont care what any of you say about her. im cheryls kid thru and thru.

nate"


Personally, I have always believed "Teen Helpers" have a special place reserved for them but it ain't with God in the Kingdom of Heaven. It's with Lucifer in a place called Club Hell.

:smokin:
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2005, 09:29:00 AM
Ms. Stamps,

Was not referring to Mormon "SAINTS" when saying Saints do not abuse children, lie, cheat, or steal.  Was referring to the "GODLY-TYPE" Saints that we normal folks think of when we think of "Saints."

AND, Cheryl Sudweeks most certainly does not fit in the category of GODLY-TYPE-SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!

Would love to the The Mormon Church denounce the Sudweeks's behaviors and treatment of children under their care--- failed health inspections...fire/safety citations... allegations of abuse...charges of abuse..ongoing criminal investigations--because the continued silence of The Mormon Church gives the "APPEARANCE" of condoning such behaviors.
Title: Joey
Post by: samoan_built on August 04, 2005, 04:28:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-08-01 07:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

"SAINTS do not abuse children, SAINTS do not cheat parents out of money, SAINTS do not lie, SAINTS do not manipulate children."

you know what? you are exactly right. which is what makes cheryl such a saint. she doesnt do any of those things.
peace
nate
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2005, 05:48:00 PM
Cherly Sudweeks has been charged with 7 counts of abuse against 4 different children, and the investigation is still ongoing---get real Nate!!
Also, a civil case with valid charges has been filed against the Sudweeks by several families. And the Attorney Generals office is still investigating the Sudweeks. These people are far from saints!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2005, 06:11:00 PM
Well, Nate, maybe not to you, but she has done these things to others.  The stories are all very similar in nature, and have happened over a period of time, with kids who don't even know each other.  Think about it.  You know the truth just like everyone else.  You also know the control Cheryl has.  No one has to be afraid of the truth -- ever.  If you are home, and afraid of being sent back, don't be.  The authorities will protect you, if no one else does.  All you have to do is go to them.  Think about it.

Quote
On 2005-08-04 13:28:00, krazymormon wrote:

"
Quote

On 2005-08-01 07:14:00, Anonymous wrote:


"SAINTS do not abuse children, SAINTS do not cheat parents out of money, SAINTS do not lie, SAINTS do not manipulate children."


you know what? you are exactly right. which is what makes cheryl such a saint. she doesnt do any of those things.

peace

nate"
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2005, 12:55:00 PM
DEPO me as I sue....Baby kangaroo knows what happened at the zoo...clean and fresh....will attest as to the crazy nest....beast ran the halls..gorilla had big balls..............no brain....about to rain on her parade.....she will fade at last resort...sad wife...sad LIFE....to pay dearly for her hurtful TORT.............AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2006, 10:34:00 PM
Mamma Gorilla.......they are going to throw the entire book at you.........civil fOOls tOO........Long days coming.lonly nights I suspect......Back to tweaking I hear....pOOr dear...such a sad soul....AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on January 19, 2006, 01:46:00 AM
Does anyone know if Cheryl has been on this site lately?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 01:40:00 PM
Who is mamma gorilla?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 09:53:00 PM
Momma Gorilla? Ha ha ha!!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2006, 01:37:00 AM
Might that be Cheryl Sudweeks?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on March 01, 2006, 11:35:00 PM
You seriously all sound like a bunch of whiny pussies.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2006, 10:35:00 AM
And you sound like an absolute asshole!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2006, 10:45:00 AM
Yea, only a "pussy" little boy would complain about Cheryl Sudweeks throwing him down a flight of stairs OR having him tied up, gagged and beaten by a gang of other boys that Cheryl Sudweeks ordered to beat him, RIGHT?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on March 02, 2006, 02:24:00 PM
Quote
On 2006-03-01 20:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You seriously all sound like a bunch of whiny pussies."


And you appear to be a pussy faced little momma's boy or girl with your head implanted so firmly and so far up Cheryl's ass that you can't see clearly.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2006, 09:42:00 PM
mansion SOLD!!!!...........moved out April 13th.........mo money!!!!!!!!......fly spy
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2006, 09:44:00 PM
Quote
On 2005-11-07 09:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

"DEPO me as I sue....Baby kangaroo knows what happened at the zoo...clean and fresh....will attest as to the crazy nest....beast ran the halls..gorilla had big balls..............no brain....about to rain on her parade.....she will fade at last resort...sad wife...sad LIFE....to pay dearly for her hurtful TORT.............AMF"
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2006, 10:06:00 PM
Mansion sold??? Need more info, if this is so.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2006, 10:09:00 PM
Wonder how gorilla's taking in all the lastest?
head swimming? running scared? Big ole yak yak yak time!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2006, 10:47:00 PM
to whom was the mansion sold? many want to know.
~~truthseeker~~
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2006, 11:17:00 AM
Fly Spy, lawyers won't let gorilla talk.
But her actions speak louder than words.
~~truthseekser~~
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2006, 12:53:00 AM
Gorilla won't talk. She makes a bunch of kids talk,er...lie for her.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2006, 11:38:00 PM
Now long now until all the truths come out in court. About time.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2006, 12:40:00 PM
Gorilla's halls are empty. Where's she raving now?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 02, 2006, 04:23:00 PM
Quote
On 2006-04-27 18:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"
Quote

On 2005-11-07 09:55:00, Anonymous wrote:


"DEPO me as I sue....Baby kangaroo knows what happened at the zoo...clean and fresh....will attest as to the crazy nest....beast ran the halls..gorilla had big balls..............no brain....about to rain on her parade.....she will fade at last resort...sad wife...sad LIFE....to pay dearly for her hurtful TORT.............AMF"






"
   XXXX
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 22, 2006, 10:56:00 PM
joey was a bitch. any of you would have smacked him in the face a couple of times. with him screamin  WHITE POWER every time eddy was gone. you only really had to call eddy a nigger to his face really just one time to see that he wouldnt really do anything about it anyway, because he was infact , a dumb nigger
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on May 23, 2006, 02:34:00 AM
I take exception to what you have posted.
Joey is a nice young man, who did not deserve to be hit by anyone for any reason; or to be called names.
And Eddie does not deserve to be called any names by you,or anyone.
I do know that Cheryl and Mark Sudweeks used racial slurs, and not only against Eddie. This is just another example of thier extreme cruelty towards children, which will be addressed in both the criminal and civil courts of law.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2006, 07:15:11 PM
The suds didnt discriminate anyone eddie doesnt deserve to be called any names. Who did the suds discriminate come on tell the people that were there so we can prove you wrong!!!!
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on August 05, 2006, 11:24:35 PM
The Suds get to prove anything they think they can in COURT. They are facing a criminal and civil case in court. They get speak their "truths then" under oath in front of their accusers.
Think Cheryl Sudweeks will have the guts to testify in her criminal trial?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2006, 03:30:17 AM
U guys are all a bunch of cock sucking faggots that need to go beat off to a victoria scret magazine or something of the sort
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2006, 03:59:34 AM
U got something against victoria's secret, or u just got something against beautiful women?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on September 24, 2006, 02:42:02 AM
I am like God, and God like me. I am as large as God, He is as small as I. He cannot above me, nor I beneath Him be.......TICK TOCK..............lawyers doing all the talk..........still going to pay........WE PRAY FOR RELIEF........................
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on September 24, 2006, 02:42:03 AM
I am like God, and God like me. I am as large as God, He is as small as I. He cannot above me, nor I beneath Him be.......TICK TOCK..............lawyers doing all the talk..........still going to pay........WE PRAY FOR RELIEF........................
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on September 24, 2006, 11:41:48 AM
To hell with the lawyers talking....it's time to hear the gorilla... I mean the bitch... talking. She will lie under oath in those depositions; unless she's ready to just PAY UP!.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on September 30, 2006, 02:03:07 AM
How many $$'s can a baby kangaroo jump???  Tell your LIES BITCH...........come on...put em UP!!!................AMF
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on October 01, 2006, 01:40:01 AM
Nah, she can't "put um up" and fight fair---she can only whip on little kids; and she can only do that when she has a bunch of thugs backing her up!

Let's see the bitch fight in a fair forum--like a court of law.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2006, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
How many $$'s can a baby kangaroo jump???  Tell your LIES BITCH...........come on...put em UP!!!................AMF


Blah, Blah........................she'll pay.....just wait
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2006, 10:59:28 AM
Depositions coming up....lies or truth....talk or pay?....will be a big day.....Deal or NO DEAL?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2006, 04:39:38 PM
Damn, you are a weirdo!

Shane Haley
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2006, 05:46:43 PM
Were you present for the depositions, Shane?
Now you might judge who's weirdo's if you were.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2006, 05:47:24 PM
Were you present for the depositions, Shane?
Now you might judge who's weirdo's if you were.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2006, 02:19:22 PM
No I was not present for them.  I had more important things to do than wish ill will upon people who get persecuted for doing a job that obviously the parents can't handle.  I have businesses to run. So yeah the term "weirdo" still applies.

Shane Haley
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2006, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: ""Shane Haley""
So yeah the term "weirdo" still applies.

Shane Haley


To who?  Cheryl and her merry band of child and animal abusers?  Yep. That's pretty on target.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2006, 03:16:06 PM
No, it applies solely to you.  I don't feel the need to explain myself any further.  You know you are dragging out something that is out of your control now.  So just live with it or don't I really could care less.
Shane Haley

PS: What are the chances of you being one of those parents who could'nt handle thier kid?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2006, 03:19:34 PM
Quote from: ""Shane Haley""
No, it applies solely to you.  I don't feel the need to explain myself any further.  You know you are dragging out something that is out of your control now.  So just live with it or don't I really could care less.
Shane Haley

PS: What are the chances of you being one of those parents who could'nt handle thier kid?


Zero.  I was in a place like Whitmore years ago.  I now have grown kids and managed quite nicely without shipping them off to strangers to "fix" what I had "broken".

Of course you don't feel the need to explain any further.  That's how all of you operate.  The questions and facts start getting in the way of your little fantasies and you don't know how else to react. :roll:
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2006, 03:28:10 PM
Thank you.  You have now put a whole new light on you're situation.  I now see clearly where you are coming from. What you write has absolutly no bearing whatsoever on the Sudweeks' dilema because you just wandered into this chat room read a few newspaper articles and thought back to your little days of being sent to a place like the Whitmore, and decided to stir up some s*it.  Yes I do see it all so clearly now.
Shane Haley

dont bother to reply this message I am not coming back
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2006, 03:29:28 PM
Quote from: ""Shane Haley""
Damn, you are a weirdo!

Shane Haley


Seems that the Suds are the weirdos here.  Cheryl is the one convicted on four counts of hazing.  Wake up and smell the java honey.
Title: none
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2007, 05:15:15 AM
this is a former whitmore student. to be honest i heard that joyce harris is all in mark and cheryls case b/c her own daughter began confiding in them about the truth about her mother. i heard joyce harris used to beat her daughter and when she found out that her daughter was telling the kids at whitmore she paniced, and dragged her out of there and ever since then has had "beef" with mark and cheryl. maybe we should be investigating YOU.
Title: none
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2007, 05:15:57 AM
this is a former whitmore student. to be honest i heard that joyce harris is all in mark and cheryls case b/c her own daughter began confiding in them about the truth about her mother. i heard joyce harris used to beat her daughter and when she found out that her daughter was telling the kids at whitmore she paniced, and dragged her out of there and ever since then has had "beef" with mark and cheryl. maybe we should be investigating YOU.
Title: Re: none
Post by: nimdA on April 06, 2007, 07:16:09 AM
Quote from: ""none""
this is a former whitmore student. to be honest i heard that joyce harris is all in mark and cheryls case b/c her own daughter began confiding in them about the truth about her mother. i heard joyce harris used to beat her daughter and when she found out that her daughter was telling the kids at whitmore she paniced, and dragged her out of there and ever since then has had "beef" with mark and cheryl. maybe we should be investigating YOU.


Tell you what slim. Why don't you post a name and an address for yourself. it makes it easier later to identify who is committing slander/libel on behalf of the Sudweeks.

Wait don't bother.. More BS from the Cherly/Mark/Sue/Izzy propaganda mill.

Though I got a better rumor for you. I heard that cheryl and mark got busted so hard they can't ever work with kids in the county of Juab in Utah for the rest of their lives. Oh wait.. that isn't a rumor.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2007, 01:35:26 PM
woah, sounds like i hit a sensitive spot. maybe joyce should quit paying kids off to talk against mark and cheryl. maybe joyce should be honest about what happened when she got her daughter to come home. did she run and hug her daughter so happy that she finally has her because she was worried that "mark and cheryl-the beaters" had her? NO, or did she rather demand her to go home and when her daughter cried and said SHED RATHER STAY AT THE WHITMORE-joyce dragged her down the stairs BY HER HAIR, all the while her daughter crying and screamig in fear of her mother....lets talk about that.

and one little more thing to think about, who would you believe? a kid that doesnt wan to be in a program so badly that he will run awaya and say whatever in order to get out? or the person being accused. theres never been proof of these pathetic idiotic charges. there have been kids confusing they are gay in order to go home. of coarse someone will cry abuse if they think thats their ticket home. this is more sad than the salem witchcraft trails.
Title: NONE
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2007, 01:36:01 PM
woah, sounds like i hit a sensitive spot. maybe joyce should quit paying kids off to talk against mark and cheryl. maybe joyce should be honest about what happened when she got her daughter to come home. did she run and hug her daughter so happy that she finally has her because she was worried that "mark and cheryl-the beaters" had her? NO, or did she rather demand her to go home and when her daughter cried and said SHED RATHER STAY AT THE WHITMORE-joyce dragged her down the stairs BY HER HAIR, all the while her daughter crying and screamig in fear of her mother....lets talk about that.

and one little more thing to think about, who would you believe? a kid that doesnt wan to be in a program so badly that he will run awaya and say whatever in order to get out? or the person being accused. theres never been proof of these pathetic idiotic charges. there have been kids confusing they are gay in order to go home. of coarse someone will cry abuse if they think thats their ticket home. this is more sad than the salem witchcraft trails.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2007, 02:00:42 PM
dont think we forgot joyce. and dont think for a second that wont come up in coart- i'll make sure of it.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2007, 02:48:18 PM
To The Anon Defening the Sudweeks:

Why don't you shut your stupid mouth?

ISAC investigated those allegations of yours and found them to be completely false.

http://isaccorp.org/documentsnz.asp#whitmore (http://isaccorp.org/documentsnz.asp#whitmore)

Maybe next time, your will endeavor to educate yourself about the FACTS but if not, rest assured, the truth about this now defunct program and it's owners stands in testimony to the lies being spread on the Internet by people who clearly have a vested interest in promoting untruths (lies), gossip and innuendo to further their self-serving agenda.

 :flame:
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2007, 03:33:13 PM
alot of big words there... i am not trying to out do you. i am just looking for justice and the only facts i know is what i saw, and joyce if you are reading this you should be getting nervous because you and i BOTH know the truth. i am not into investigating and i dont care what the ISAC came up with, we know the truth, and WE KNOW what happened. so just remember joycie, dont be so quick to judge, because your not so innocent yourself.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2007, 03:33:32 PM
alot of big words there... i am not trying to out do you. i am just looking for justice and the only facts i know is what i saw, and joyce if you are reading this you should be getting nervous because you and i BOTH know the truth. i am not into investigating and i dont care what the ISAC came up with, we know the truth, and WE KNOW what happened. so just remember joycie, dont be so quick to judge, because your not so innocent yourself.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2007, 04:22:28 PM
So, Anon, it doesn't matter to you if ISAC investigated these allegations of yours and found them to be completely false?  

That makes no sense.

Why can't you just accept the fact that Whitmore is closed and it's owner BANNED FOR LIFE from ever operating a program in Nephi, Utah?

 :roll:
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2007, 04:53:52 PM
thats fine, their closed down, that should make alot of sick people very happy but i want everyone to know JOYCE HARRIS IS SCARED. SHE IS SCARED BECAUSE HE DAUGHTER CONFIDED IN THE KIDS AND MARK AND CHERYL ABOUT HOW JOYCE, HER MOTHER, BEAT HER. JOYCE FOUND OUT, GOT SCARED, RIPPED HER OUT OF THE WHITMORE WHICH WAS HER ONLY HOME AND BEGAN MAKING ALLIGATIONS AGAINST MARK AND CHERYL.  now joyce has a band of followers. so the people on this website, make sure you know who truley is the sick twisted child abuser here. i am an ex-whitmore student and i know more than anyone on this site the first hand accounts of what happened. if anyone has any questions, id be glad to answer. all i know is dont trust joyce harris, shes no better than the so called "tweeker and peekers" of the whitmore. this is alot deeper than it appears to be isnt it joyce?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2007, 10:56:50 PM
Cheryl Sudweeks copped a plea in the criminal case of child abuse against her. That explains it rather clearly.
The Whitmore Academy is closed..
Title: Joey
Post by: hanzomon4 on April 07, 2007, 11:04:53 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
thats fine, their closed down, that should make alot of sick people very happy but i want everyone to know JOYCE HARRIS IS SCARED. SHE IS SCARED BECAUSE HE DAUGHTER CONFIDED IN THE KIDS AND MARK AND CHERYL ABOUT HOW JOYCE, HER MOTHER, BEAT HER. JOYCE FOUND OUT, GOT SCARED, RIPPED HER OUT OF THE WHITMORE WHICH WAS HER ONLY HOME AND BEGAN MAKING ALLIGATIONS AGAINST MARK AND CHERYL.  now joyce has a band of followers. so the people on this website, make sure you know who truley is the sick twisted child abuser here. i am an ex-whitmore student and i know more than anyone on this site the first hand accounts of what happened. if anyone has any questions, id be glad to answer. all i know is dont trust joyce harris, shes no better than the so called "tweeker and peekers" of the whitmore. this is alot deeper than it appears to be isnt it joyce?


Are you yelling?

Are you a Sudweek?  An unemployed Sudweek?   ::roflmao::

 :o    

I must be sick....
Title: Re: NONE
Post by: ZenAgent on April 08, 2007, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: ""NONE""
woah, sounds like i hit a sensitive spot. maybe joyce should quit paying kids off to talk against mark and cheryl. maybe joyce should be honest about what happened when she got her daughter to come home. did she run and hug her daughter so happy that she finally has her because she was worried that "mark and cheryl-the beaters" had her? NO, or did she rather demand her to go home and when her daughter cried and said SHED RATHER STAY AT THE WHITMORE-joyce dragged her down the stairs BY HER HAIR, all the while her daughter crying and screamig in fear of her mother....lets talk about that.

and one little more thing to think about, who would you believe? a kid that doesnt wan to be in a program so badly that he will run awaya and say whatever in order to get out? or the person being accused. theres never been proof of these pathetic idiotic charges. there have been kids confusing they are gay in order to go home. of coarse someone will cry abuse if they think thats their ticket home. this is more sad than the salem witchcraft trails.

Wait a minute...I've been reading this intently, because it seems like these anons credit one woman with full responsibility for the closure of Whitmore.  I want to know - how did she do it, and can I get a lesson from her?  

You're saying that this mother barged into Whitmore, plowed through the place, grabbed her kid and left?  What kind of security did Whitmore have?  As much money as parents spent on tuition, you would expect some measures to be taken to prevent the random snatching of a child.  If the girl was removed in such a brutal fashion, why didn't the Sudweeks file charges, considering the number of witnesses?  Surely there is a police report somewhere, and since you seem to have access to a wealth of information regarding this "snatching", tell me where I need to go to read it.  If Whitmore didn't file a complaint and press charges - well, the Sudweeks were negligent and not forthcoming with details of abuse.

Quote from: ""Guest""
i am not into investigating and i dont care what the ISAC came up with, we know the truth, and WE KNOW what happened.


Yeah, it's obvious you don't investigate.  You seem to shoot from the hip and disregard anything that goes against your overzealous support of the Sudweeks.  Damn, Mark Sudweeks couldn't be trusted with horses, let alone kids.

Give me more information, because this isn't making sense.  Also, prosecutors don't go to plea bargains if they don't have a strong case, they drop charges - look at Narvin Litchfield and Randall Hinton.  No, a plea bargain is an ass-saving measure employed by the defendant's legal counsel.  Next lesson - I'll explain libel laws and common knowledge.
Title: Joey
Post by: ZenAgent on April 08, 2007, 03:22:16 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
alot of big words there... i am not trying to out do you. i am just looking for justice and the only facts i know is what i saw, and joyce if you are reading this you should be getting nervous because you and i BOTH know the truth. i am not into investigating and i dont care what the ISAC came up with, we know the truth, and WE KNOW what happened. so just remember joycie, dont be so quick to judge, because your not so innocent yourself.


I know big words confuse you, so we'll keep it simple.  I do investigate, and I've had some questions answered already.  The parent didn't barge in, there was a police escort.  No cop is going to watch a child being dragged by the hair down a staircase.  There are even excerpts from a police report, no mention of anything like your story.  Given the Bock case, I would think Sue and Izzasmell would tread carefully.  Instead, they seem to be suffering from fatal hubris.  One victory over a displaced housewife does not mean Sue can run roughshod over people with impunity.  The disclaimer at the bottom of her blog shows she's not too confident.  That disclaimer is as valid as Lon Woodbury's claim to own all postings on StrugglingTeens.  

Keep going with this.  Fornits thanks Izzy and Sue for their efforts to discredit and scandalize the troubled teen industry by behaving like...troubled adults.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2007, 08:57:17 PM
You all do realize that this is Cheryl posting right?

Got her posting style all over it.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2007, 09:01:50 PM
Also I heard this rumor that Cheryl and Mark now are joining the Fundamentalist Branch of the Latter Day Saints. Apparently they haven't had enough of the hair dragging so now they are going to get more young child brides in the family.

Anyone want to guess on how many wives mark will have before X-mas?

How many of them will be over the age of 15?
Title: Joey
Post by: ZenAgent on April 08, 2007, 11:49:02 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
You all do realize that this is Cheryl posting right?

Got her posting style all over it.

So it seems. Poor spelling, fragments, seething anger, and desperate for a scapegoat.  Vent, Cheryl.  We're laughing at you.  I heard you're back in Canada, perhaps raising horses again?  Wait, I forgot, your man Mark is banned from owning any animals in Canada due to the extreme neglect of your horses there. There's always Mexico...no, wait, you guys ran afoul of the law there, as well.  I read over your criminal records and I don't see the wonderful, loving people Sue and Izzasmell describe.

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GOT SCARED, RIPPED HER OUT OF THE WHITMORE WHICH WAS HER ONLY HOME

Thinking of the Whitmore as a child's only home is terrifying, based on the accusations that led to Cheryl's plea bargain cop-out.  How long was this young girl at Whitmore?  I can't imagine it was for any great length of time, since her parents took the extreme measure of showing up with a police escort to free her.

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so the people on this website, make sure you know who truley is the sick twisted child abuser here. i am an ex-whitmore student and i know more than anyone on this site the first hand accounts of what happened. if anyone has any questions, id be glad to answer.

There's only one person involved in this discussion proven to be a sick, twisted, child abuser, and that's Cheryl Sudweeks.  Despite some EdCons misinformation, the Sudweeks are banned for life from opening another facility in Juab County, Utah, not a year.  To quote County Attorney Jared Eldridge, "... it shuts her down, at least here in Juab County, so they can't do business here. I believe it effectively shuts them down in the state of Utah,"  According to ISAC, the mother who rescued her daughter followed the law and has documentation debunking your claims.  You, on the other hand, have chaotic, inadmissible hearsay to defend Whitmore, a program shut down in shame.

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i am an ex-whitmore student and i know more than anyone on this site the first hand accounts of what happened. if anyone has any questions, id be glad to answer.


Who are you?  Sign up and be an active Fornits participant, or no one will take you seriously.  If you are a former Sudweeks student, you don't make a good case for the academic program at Whitmore, if they had one.  Your knowledge of grammar, spelling, and sentence structure would embarrass a grade-school student.

I'm not familiar with the parent you're attacking.  You seem to blame this mother not only for the charges that derailed Whitmore, but also for the animal abuse charges in Canada, the license hassles in Mexico, and at the rate you're going, you'll accuse her of assassinating Kennedy and masterminding 9/11.  Methinks (you) doth protest too much.

One question:  How's the child you claim was brutally ripped out of the Whitmore, "her only home"?  I've been informed she's with her family and doing great.  Not what you wanted to hear, huh? Why are you putting the girl's family through this?  If the mother were as abusive as you say, surely it would have been proven by now .  What has been proven is no child (or horse) should be entrusted to the "care" of the Sudweeks, regardless of Sue and Izzy's bizarre adoration for the Sudweeks, painting them as martyrs.  Get real.

"Tis too starved an argument for my sword,"
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 09, 2007, 09:24:27 AM
I just heard another rumor:

Cheryl and Mark are going to be opening up another kiddie torture center, and Sue is going to be supply the kids for it. My guess is fucking izzawhore is gonna be pushing this new kiddie cesspit as well.

I also heard that Sue likes to eat Izzawhore's cunt when Izzawhore is on the rag. Jesus Sue do you really drink from the stream?
Title: Re: NONE
Post by: Anonymous on April 09, 2007, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: ""NONE""
this is more sad than the salem witchcraft trails.


It's a witch hunt, alright, and it's over
"Ding, dong, the w(b)itch is gone,"[/i]

See you in hell, Cheryl.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2007, 01:31:59 AM
just the other day i got off the fone with izzawhore and told her exactly what my punishment was one day. shut her right up!

After living at the Whitmore for over a year, I can say the only times I thought Whitmore to be my home was after they had convinced me that my parents hated me, my friends had forgotten me and I had no where to look but to "Cheryl's Help". When I got out my parents had no Idea of what went on and still don't. I Graduated BARELY no thanks to bullshit credits, and I just feel bad for the kids who are still believing in Cheryl.


Everyone who comes onto this website must realize that no matter what we were all forged together and the kids there, like it or not, made a sick an twisted family where we were all brothers and sisters. Cheryl was the Mom and Mark was the dad and you either liked em' or hated em' but thats all you could do about it.

Now they are fucked because they let it get too out of hand, and It is all over with. They have no program anymore, so what else is there to fuss about? Compensation? Admission to Guilt? I don't see it coming very soon.
Title: Joey
Post by: ConstentGardener on April 16, 2007, 11:15:37 AM
>just the other day i got off the fone with izzawhore and told her exactly what my punishment was one day. shut her right up! <


What did you tell her? Might be nice to know what she is willing to over look for the sake of PURITY.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 16, 2007, 12:31:35 PM
IZZY quotes an ex-Whitmore Student in her Whitmore Blog:
"this student no longer was asking that the blog be taken down. He said he too had some good times, and that he at times, just wanted to be home.

BUT, IZZY ends this blog by saying:
"Cheryl Sudweeks' plea agreement ordered her not to operate a program for children for one year in Juab County."

THIS IT TOTALLY INCORRECT:

Cheryl Sudweeks ABEYANCE AGREEMENT STATES:  page 2
That Cheryl Sudweeks shall not operate or be involved in any capacity with any PROGRAM offering services of any kind to CHILDREN within the boundaries of JUAB COUNTY, UTAH "for the remainder of the DEFENDANT'S NATURAL LIFE."

IF Izzy can not even get this plea agreement correct.
Why believe she quoted this ex-student at Whitmore correctly?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2007, 03:21:47 PM
Although she took exactly what she wanted from what I told her, I did tell her that I did have some good times. I also told her that at other times I had believed that Cheryl was incredibly mentally unstable and that she should not have been running a boarding school, hence my ridiculous, unsafe, embarassing, and demeaning punishments.

She does not care about the children, she cares about making Cheryl look good because she is

1. Being paid
2. Been brainwashed just like all of us had been at some point to believe that Cheryl really is a "god send" to troubled teens.

Fuck you izzy for taking my words out of contact. And fuck you Cheryl for not choking on your mothers Umbilical cord in the womb.

And also, fuck you Mark for being a pussy whipped bitch and not stepping in when you knew things weren't right.

And fuck BREK because he's a spoiled rotten bitch.

But I love the rest of their family.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2007, 03:22:29 PM
Although she took exactly what she wanted from what I told her, I did tell her that I did have some good times. I also told her that at other times I had believed that Cheryl was incredibly mentally unstable and that she should not have been running a boarding school, hence my ridiculous, unsafe, embarassing, and demeaning punishments.

She does not care about the children, she cares about making Cheryl look good because she is

1. Being paid
2. Been brainwashed just like all of us had been at some point to believe that Cheryl really is a "god send" to troubled teens.

Fuck you izzy for taking my words out of contact. And fuck you Cheryl for not choking on your mothers Umbilical cord in the womb.

And also, fuck you Mark for being a pussy whipped bitch and not stepping in when you knew things weren't right.

And fuck BREK because he's a spoiled rotten bitch.

But I love the rest of their family.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2007, 03:49:06 PM
Thank you for your post.
Doubt if any people believed Isablelle's "interpretation" of her phone conversation with you.
Who even believes  the lies she printed in this Whitmore blog?
That must be why she published the DISCLAIMER at the end of the blog--a lame excuse for printing hearsay, and cruel, vicious gossip and lies; and for parent-bashing.
You are correct, Cheryl Sudweeks is not any "god send."  God has nothing to do with people who choose to abuse children.
God certainly has nothing to do with people who choose to praise, and support such abusive people, either in my opinion.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2007, 08:58:22 AM
If isabelle Zehnder misrepresented what this young man said to her in her disgracefrul Whitmore Academy blog, this woman should develop an ounce of intrigrity and take that blog down!
Whatever her intentions are for praising two people, who are admitted criminals--Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks, and their closed down Whitmore Academy; it should not be at the expense of a self-reportedl abused ex-student!
Shame of you, Isabelle Zehnder.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on December 02, 2007, 10:37:23 PM
and oooooooooooooooooooooooooooN
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2007, 11:43:25 PM
Lol what a joke. I hope you all realize that that was the infamous Cheryl Sudweeks posting all of that crap. I know that for a fact. For christs sake I got friggin flashbacks of the psycho-maniac while I was reading  her posts because that's exactly how she used to sound. Trying to convince everyone that our families didn't want us and that they abused and raped us and that THE SUDWEEKS were her family. What a sick demented family they were ( I know i'm stating the obvious but COME ON). Cheryl Sudweeks, and ALL OF the sudweeks will burn in hell. Karma will take its toll on you and you WILL pay for what you've done you sick twisted manipulative psychopath
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2007, 11:43:43 PM
Lol what a joke. I hope you all realize that that was the infamous Cheryl Sudweeks posting all of that crap. I know that for a fact. For christs sake I got friggin flashbacks of the psycho-maniac while I was reading  her posts because that's exactly how she used to sound. Trying to convince everyone that our families didn't want us and that they abused and raped us and that THE SUDWEEKS were her family. What a sick demented family they were ( I know i'm stating the obvious but COME ON). Cheryl Sudweeks, and ALL OF the sudweeks will burn in hell. Karma will take its toll on you and you WILL pay for what you've done you sick twisted manipulative psychopath
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2007, 02:08:47 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Lol what a joke. I hope you all realize that that was the infamous Cheryl Sudweeks posting all of that crap. I know that for a fact. For christs sake I got friggin flashbacks of the psycho-maniac while I was reading  her posts because that's exactly how she used to sound. Trying to convince everyone that our families didn't want us and that they abused and raped us and that THE SUDWEEKS were her family. What a sick demented family they were ( I know i'm stating the obvious but COME ON). Cheryl Sudweeks, and ALL OF the sudweeks will burn in hell. Karma will take its toll on you and you WILL pay for what you've done you sick twisted manipulative psychopath


Is that just your opinion, or do you know if Cheryl Sudweeks has been diagnosed as a psychopath?
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on December 09, 2007, 02:19:07 AM
ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY, SOCIOPATHY, AND PSYCHOPATHY

    People who cannot contain their urges to harm (or kill) people repeatedly for no apparent reason are assumed to suffer from some mental illness. However, they may be more cruel than crazy, they may be choosing not to control their urges, they know right from wrong, they know exactly what they're doing, and they are definitely NOT insane, at least according to the consensus of most scholars (Samenow 2004).  In such cases, they usually fall into one of three types that are typically considered aggravating circumstances in addition to their legal guilt -- antisocial personality disorder (APD), sociopath, or psychopath -- none of which are the same as insanity or psychosis.  APD is the most common type, afflicting about 4% of the general population.  Sociopaths are the second most common type, with the American Psychiatric Association estimating that 3% of all males in our society are sociopaths and Stout (2005) estimating 4% of the population.  Psychopaths are rare, found in perhaps 1% of the population.

    Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD) is practically synonymous with criminal behavior, but as with all distributions of a disease or whatever in a population, it is probable that the majority of people with this particular affliction are law-abiding.  Aging, overinvolvements, and/or relationships might hold sway over the control (or lack of control) in these kind of people, and although approaching the study of offenders from a relationship & personality disorders point of view may or may not be productive, Dr. Drew is probably an adequate source of information on such matters.  Dr. Drew's theory (and one with wide ramifications since he pretty much defines an antisocial tendency as thinking about one's self first) is that women with certain kinds of disorders, like borderline personality disorders, tend to be attracted to and hook up with men who manifest symptoms of psychopathic personality disorder (see Lecture on BPD & OCD) and that such match-ups may or may not be dysfunctional.  On the other hand, the field of criminology tends to treat APD as so synonymous, in fact, with criminal behavior that practically all convicted criminals (65-75%) have it, with criminologists often referring to it as a "wastebasket" category.  Antisocials come is all shapes and sizes, and psychologists consider the juvenile version of it to be a juvenile conduct disorder. The main characteristic of it is a complete and utter disregard for the rights of others and the rules of society. They seldom show anxiety and don't feel guilt. Although many people would hope that there's an effective treatment, there's really no effective treatment for them other than locking them up in a secure facility with such rigid rules that they cannot talk their way out.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2007, 09:44:06 AM
ER, one more question sir, just how many TORTS equal a chip in the big game??????????????   well, were waiting.
Title: Joey
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2007, 01:12:41 PM
Baby Kangaroo has A FEW, (bless you)............few flu tOO..........  she knows WHO..............
Title: Re: Joey
Post by: Lolita on February 02, 2009, 04:11:43 PM
I clicked on this post because I went to Whitmore with Joey and I'm trying to get in touch with him. We were pretty close when he was there and after he ran, of course it was impossible for any of the kids to get his contact information. Anything helps - last name, email, myspace, etc. Thanks!