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Open Free for All / Re: Whooter's Motivations
« on: October 29, 2010, 02:19:56 PM »
Whooter's motivation?  That's easy.  MONEY.  He's a fiduciary of Aspen Education.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 29, 2010, 11:19:45 AM »
Quote from: "psy"
Quote from: "Whooter"
On the other hand, Gonzotherapy, when I exposed certain anti-program people of pretending to be survivors of different programs, making up stories and asked why they posted them these individuals ran off and started deleting their posts and/or changed their user name.

Now was the person who did that a survivor, Whooter?  Tell the truth now.  No.  He was STAFF.  The only other person I know who did that (Sue Scheff) was a parent.  We're discussing survivor's lies here, Whooter.  On topic, too. So put up or shut up. Where is an example.

To be fair, the "examples" Whooter "cited" were fabricated like his "son."  He never did provide any proof whatsoever of those accusations.  He just linked to any random post with an "edit stamp" and claimed that "before it was edited, it said ______."  Which, of course, was a complete fabrication.  

Other "examples" Whooter "cited" were actually posts he himself had written and tried to pin on others by phonying up "quotes" with no links to the OP's.

You have to keep in mind that Whooter is the ultimate prevaricator and lies about everything.  Now Psy appears willing to further perpetrate Whooter's lies without offering a shred of evidence either.  Pretty weak.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 28, 2010, 12:21:37 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
As far as my family members go, none of them are fabricated. They are all very real.

No, they aren't.

Quote from: "Whooter"
I fabricated a son

So, what else have you been lying about?

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Open Free for All / Flaming Fucktards
« on: October 28, 2010, 12:17:21 PM »
I knew you weren't very bright, but struggling for weeks with bending a conduit pipe means you're likely developmentally disabled to a severe degree.

Go to the hardware strore and pick up a pipe bender of the appropriate diameter (1/2", 3/4", 1", etc.) and follow the simple instructions to bend the pipe at whatever radius you desire.  Remember that each time you bend the pipe it will get slightly shorter so be sure to leave some extra length over what you expect is the linear length required.

Get a life and bend that pipe.

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Open Free for All / Re: Whooter Is DEAD
« on: October 27, 2010, 02:37:36 PM »
Eh.  No such luck.  Maybe next time.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 27, 2010, 02:04:43 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
I posted as a guest and pretended to have a son in the same program that her son went to.

Most people would call that "lying."  What else have you lied about?  How many of your family members are "fabricated"?

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Take a look at the moderation scheme below.  In order to completely dictate who can post what in any thread you create, you simply need to say who can post and how they must post and if they don't do it the way you dictated then the mods will remove the responses.

To keep industry people (like Whooter) or program parents out of any thread, you simply say in the first post that "only program survivors can respond" and then the mods must delete any other posts that don't conform.

The below post was shitcanned because I didn't do as Whooter said to do.  Since this is the new rules, just flip the script on industry types to disallow their responses.

Quote from: "The gatekeeper"
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My TTI Postings (general discussion)

Postby Whooter » October 15th, 2010, 3:39 pm

I have posted close to 10,000 posts here on fornits and there are a few that I am not proud of, I do admit that, but there are not many compared to the number I posted. I had them all exposed for everyone to see willingly and knowing my past would be exposed for all to see. I have a few posters who don’t like what I have posted and subsequently cut and paste sound bites of these posts in an effort to place them in the worst light possible. I have ignored this for the most part but after giving it some thought I really don’t feel I have anything to hide. I stand behind all my postings and I am sure there was a good reason behind everything that I posted.

Do I wish I had reworded some of them? Yes, but I am the same person today as when I wrote those posts just maybe a little older and wiser I hope.

There are a lot of posts flying around and a lot of posters like Shadyacres, Anne Bonney, Watchful Yeoman, Son of Serbia, Shaggys, Samara etc. who express concern with my postings in other threads and I don’t want to address the questions there in that thread resulting in a derailed thread.

If people are interested in why I wrote the posts that I did then this is the thread to ask me. Don’t bring it up in the middle of other peoples posts or conversations. If there is a specific post that upsets you or you are wondering why I posted it then post it here and I will respond to it the best I can.

I will review each post and determine why I posted it and respond back here in this thread. I think this will help to clear up many questions about me and help keep the main forum free from these conversations.

Your question on a post must include a link to the original post so that I can review it.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 27, 2010, 11:13:56 AM »
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=31450&p=384362&hilit=sons+plural#p384362

Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
Quote from: "Whooter"
If people are interested in why I wrote the posts that I did then this is the thread to ask me.

OK...We're asking.  

Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Oh FFS.....the whole reason he started this ridiculous thread is because he KNOWS his credibility is shot.  Someone new came along who seems genuinely interested in how programs "work" and what the fallout is from them.  Whooter knows he's caught and he's trying to explain his sock puppetry away and save face.

It ain't working and people ain't buying it.   :deal:  :twofinger:

You are partially right, Anne.  There has been a lot of trolling out in the forum of people asking me questions about my past posts.. "fabricated son" etc.  So I thought if people had a question about a specific post I could redirect it here and avoid having the thread derailed with a topic most people are not interested in.

I think it will help on many levels.


Fabricated sons.  Plural.  Or fabricated daughter, singular.  Which is it?

You started this thread to clean up your lies and explain yourself, Whooter.  Why are you attacking Anne instead of addressing those posts you wrote?

Do you have two "fabricated sons" or one "fabricated daughter"?

Just answer and we can move on.  If you want to start threads attacking Anne Bonney, go ahead and start them in trhe "OFFA" section.  This thread is to address your posts, not theirs.

We're still waiting to hear exactly how many "fabricated" family members you have, Whooter.  Please explain.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 27, 2010, 10:25:22 AM »
Quote from: "Watchful Yeoman"
Quote from: "Whooter"
If people are interested in why I wrote the posts that I did then this is the thread to ask me.

OK...We're asking.  

Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Oh FFS.....the whole reason he started this ridiculous thread is because he KNOWS his credibility is shot.  Someone new came along who seems genuinely interested in how programs "work" and what the fallout is from them.  Whooter knows he's caught and he's trying to explain his sock puppetry away and save face.

It ain't working and people ain't buying it.   :deal:  :twofinger:

You are partially right, Anne.  There has been a lot of trolling out in the forum of people asking me questions about my past posts.. "fabricated son" etc.  So I thought if people had a question about a specific post I could redirect it here and avoid having the thread derailed with a topic most people are not interested in.

I think it will help on many levels.


Fabricated sons.  Plural.  Or fabricated daughter, singular.  Which is it?

You started this thread to clean up your lies and explain yourself, Whooter.  Why are you attacking Anne instead of addressing those posts you wrote?

Do you have two "fabricated sons" or one "fabricated daughter"?

Just answer and we can move on.  If you want to start threads attacking Anne Bonney, go ahead and start them in trhe "OFFA" section.  This thread is to address your posts, not theirs.

We're still waiting to hear exactly how many "fabricated" family members you have, Whooter.  Please explain.

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Open Free for All / Whooter Is DEAD
« on: October 27, 2010, 10:13:32 AM »
If he weren't he'd be posting.  Whooter leads a "Fornits Centric" lifestyle which compels him to post all day every day for years on end.  If he were still living, he'd be posting.  Therefore, he is dead.

I think he ate some poison troll bait I put out in the garage.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Phoenix House/Marathon House
« on: October 26, 2010, 09:30:59 AM »
Quote from: "heretik"
I said that much so to quell any suspicion that anyone here would be confused as to who is posting. The IPS addresses will be the same because of where I do most of my posting is in the same office.
Guys I can tell you, he is gone. I do not believe he will be back.

 :shamrock: 0/10 :shamrock:

Lame identity-shift trolling.  0 for "believability."  I can smell this one from ten threads away.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 18, 2010, 10:52:12 AM »
We are discussing it and you're getting the shit end of it, and badly.  

What we found was that you were posting as "Peg Sympson" (you have also posted as "Jammie Sympson" as well - maybe the "fabricated daughter" of the "fabricated mommy"?) and quoted yourself two times while claiming you also have a son.  

This is the second son you have posted that you have.  How many sons do you have, Whooter?  I think we all agree that your story and family are fabricated, but now we're not sure which kids are real and which are fake.  Most of us believe you have two sons, as you postsed, and no daughter (you fabricated her).

Go ahead and explain about this second son and the fabricated daughter.

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We have found Whooter's "second son."  Now we only need to know if this second one is "real" or "fabricated" as he claims the previous son was.  I believe he had two sons all along, Mike (ASR, deceased) and Max (HLA), and actually fabricated his daughter.  This seems more likely now that we have found the "second son."

Quote from: "Troll Control"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Peg Sympson"
First off I’d like to say you post a good argument and if you are the same poster on the other threads I agree with you mostly.  But I would like to say that I have been reading here awhile and know for a fact that Dysfunction Junction is a good guy at heart.  He just gets out of hand sometimes when he loses an argument.  He worked in a program years ago and believes them to be abusive but isn’t articulate enough to express what he is feeling so he resorts to violence and name calling when he loses an argument.  I saw the post where he wanted to punch you out, but again this is a result of his frustration in lack of communication skills.  He has gained credibility here by telling everyone that he is a mental health professional but we all know that professionals in this field don’t resolve their differences through violence and name calling.
Give the guy some space and understand that he is frustrated and angry towards the industry.
  He is not a bad guy and is just looking for people to understand what he went thru.

Thank you Peg, I think you nailed him, although, I dont think he is a mental health professional as you stated.  He may work in the field but not in a professional capacity which is obvious by the way he handles conflict and communicates.  He is just upset because no one wants to meet him in California, the job market is down, most people disagree with him and HLA is coming back under a new name.  So, I agree with you that we all need to give him some space to vent and he then he will go back to his job search soon enough.

A friend of my son was this way.  He always wanted to settle an argument by hitting people and this carried over into his adult life.  To this day he cannot handle it when he is proven wrong or when people disagree with him.  Violence is just ingrained in some people.  Like I said I dont think this Dysfunction Junction is a bad guy he just doesnt know what to do with his anger or how to properly direct it.  It is good to see people like you on here who can keep their cool.

Whoops!  Whooter has another son!  This one must be the real one.  Unless he fabricated two of them.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: My TTI Postings (general discussion)
« on: October 18, 2010, 10:31:39 AM »
For context (it can be confusing with all of Whooter's sockpuppets) this is Whooter posting as "Peg Sympson" and then quoting himself and quoting himself again.  This is what he calls "adding balance" and the rest of us call "lying" and "being phony."

Quote from: "Troll Control"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Peg Sympson"
First off I’d like to say you post a good argument and if you are the same poster on the other threads I agree with you mostly.  But I would like to say that I have been reading here awhile and know for a fact that Dysfunction Junction is a good guy at heart.  He just gets out of hand sometimes when he loses an argument.  He worked in a program years ago and believes them to be abusive but isn’t articulate enough to express what he is feeling so he resorts to violence and name calling when he loses an argument.  I saw the post where he wanted to punch you out, but again this is a result of his frustration in lack of communication skills.  He has gained credibility here by telling everyone that he is a mental health professional but we all know that professionals in this field don’t resolve their differences through violence and name calling.
Give the guy some space and understand that he is frustrated and angry towards the industry.
  He is not a bad guy and is just looking for people to understand what he went thru.

Thank you Peg, I think you nailed him, although, I dont think he is a mental health professional as you stated.  He may work in the field but not in a professional capacity which is obvious by the way he handles conflict and communicates.  He is just upset because no one wants to meet him in California, the job market is down, most people disagree with him and HLA is coming back under a new name.  So, I agree with you that we all need to give him some space to vent and he then he will go back to his job search soon enough.

A friend of my son was this way.  He always wanted to settle an argument by hitting people and this carried over into his adult life.  To this day he cannot handle it when he is proven wrong or when people disagree with him.  Violence is just ingrained in some people.  Like I said I dont think this Dysfunction Junction is a bad guy he just doesnt know what to do with his anger or how to properly direct it.  It is good to see people like you on here who can keep their cool.

Whoops!  Whooter has another son!  This one must be the real one.  Unless he fabricated two of them.

 :eek:  A second son now.  Maybe it's true after all that Whooter had two sons and never had the daughter he claimed.

What a liar this guy is.

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Aspen Education Group / Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« on: October 18, 2010, 10:10:05 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "Peg Sympson"
First off I’d like to say you post a good argument and if you are the same poster on the other threads I agree with you mostly.  But I would like to say that I have been reading here awhile and know for a fact that Dysfunction Junction is a good guy at heart.  He just gets out of hand sometimes when he loses an argument.  He worked in a program years ago and believes them to be abusive but isn’t articulate enough to express what he is feeling so he resorts to violence and name calling when he loses an argument.  I saw the post where he wanted to punch you out, but again this is a result of his frustration in lack of communication skills.  He has gained credibility here by telling everyone that he is a mental health professional but we all know that professionals in this field don’t resolve their differences through violence and name calling.
Give the guy some space and understand that he is frustrated and angry towards the industry.
  He is not a bad guy and is just looking for people to understand what he went thru.

Thank you Peg, I think you nailed him, although, I dont think he is a mental health professional as you stated.  He may work in the field but not in a professional capacity which is obvious by the way he handles conflict and communicates.  He is just upset because no one wants to meet him in California, the job market is down, most people disagree with him and HLA is coming back under a new name.  So, I agree with you that we all need to give him some space to vent and he then he will go back to his job search soon enough.

A friend of my son was this way.  He always wanted to settle an argument by hitting people and this carried over into his adult life.  To this day he cannot handle it when he is proven wrong or when people disagree with him.  Violence is just ingrained in some people.  Like I said I dont think this Dysfunction Junction is a bad guy he just doesnt know what to do with his anger or how to properly direct it.  It is good to see people like you on here who can keep their cool.

Whoops!  Whooter has another son!  This one must be the real one.  Unless he fabricated two of them.

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