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Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2005, 12:15:00 AM
Two different former staff members have used this quote now:

"My brother's head got put through a wall."

So like, did both your brother's heads get put through a wall, Capt and kp? You were both at Straight and you were both on staff.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: kpickle39 on July 09, 2005, 05:53:00 PM
uh, no...that is not correct on my part.  First, none of my brothers were in straight.  second, my head did not get put through a wall.  I got pushed into a wall for reading a cereal box. I put a hole in the wall where my head and body slammed into it. I was never on staff.   When i graduated, I wanted to get the fuck out.   Obviously, you know nothing about what you are talking about.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: kpickle39 on July 09, 2005, 05:55:00 PM
so, you must know me anon.  why don't you give us your name.  My name is Mike Sherman (but you already knew that did'nt you?); what is your name?  maybe.......nah, I'll let you not reply.  [ This Message was edited by: kpickle39 on 2005-07-09 14:56 ]
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2005, 08:04:00 PM
1. yuo dont know me. but I was in your straigt at the time yuo were and you were on staff

2# you have said before, pickler, thtat your brothes head got put therough a wall..change your story now. go aehad. its habit around here.

Capt has been saying that HER brothe's haed got put therough a wall now to. Scirt the wquestions, it remains unanswerd. Did both yoor brothe's haeds get put therough walls ? or is this another falacy by the ldcomer straigt staff like sammy who refuses to tell the truth and let us know what th enames of her attakcers? and Who on HRS would dare to force her abortion from anybody, even a fukcing president, who said so. youhang out with sam, or 4you have kpckler. yuo where doing that whloe 'file a suit' thing. Are you just now finding this out or sthis something you've beein doing now for thirty years that you've known your abuse???

At what [point Mike Shrman, did you realize that Straight was braking the law on yuo? Did you begin to see it in the eightees, the seventees, or in the nineties when they finally shtu down and you had no cause left to work fore? How amny other suvivers are you going to take donw and tell them that yours and Capt.'s brothe's haeds wer put therough walls bfore you ever tell them that you have no real need to file any kind of suit. By now, you and all your smrta little freinds should have filed a suti.

I mene, it has been thrity years now that you've know about your abuse. Mabye you are all real, but mabye your'e justt lazs.

So you claim you never said that your brothers haed got put through a wall and that you weer nevre on straigt stafff. Sam clames she eithe rwon't or can't remember who forced her to have these abortions and seductively raped her, a guy on staff where wer ALL made to remember the Chain of Command. I mean this guy must have just come off the street if he had reaped her and she cna't remember his name. No wait, thats tnot rigt, she said he raped her plenty of times and kept coming bakc for moer.

Stop liyieng. And that's the prrblem with you stafers. sammie has already begged for a name, too,. Is taht all yuo got? I giv eyou my name and you'll shutup for good nd stop heckling sevivors to come forward so you can prtect Mel and the otehr creators of straitht??

Itwould be a fare trade if I got someothign in return for it. I giv yoe my name and yuo agree to have yourself, Semmi, capt., carmel,ray, wes, and all the otehr formre stafers come forwrd and tell it liek it reelly si. Sam will name her attackers, ray will drop all his fake ass claims against Sember his idck sucking buddy, and wes will stop exxagertaing the truth abotu Staright in order to get information from servivors. Or I wuld be happy an satfisted if RAchael and Sammy woud give the names of their rapists. That's some serious shit to claim and exxagerate that soemoen raped you, especially on a surviors forum and not to say who did it. I would nwant to hurty someoen if thye didi that to tme. I woudld give you my name and addrss if i new that their sstatemetns to tthe police were legitimate.

And to Sammie, yoru crimes happened when you WHAT, under 12 right? There is NO statutes on that shit.  A capital cerime has NO statutes on it. You're a fcking liar Sammie and all the rest of you shits!!!!

she'll get froggy about her education which is inprovble, but whenver someone mentions her tosay the name of her rpaists and abortionists, she has done little work to remember the most importnt thigns.

evnetually, peoeple start to catch on when they hang out in places lay low for awhile and see what is going on where they are. Here, its a bunch of nay sayers. So whye the fuck did I start coming here. I am llooking for somonee with some integrity who can say it like it is without chaning their storeis, without lieing and holding back ANY and ALL ifnormation, so that some realy real fucking healign can begn.

Haven't seen 'em yet, may ake longer than I thot. I hear dthere was a hicld who used to come on here and she was raped in straight at age 10. She nevr said mch about it, she was looking for honest servivors, said she never found any though. She would have been about thirty now. Mostly here is obvious staffers who don't want anyone to know they are former staff of Straight, or at least still happy about their experience at Straight an dbeleve in that cause today .
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 09, 2005, 08:25:00 PM
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On 2005-07-09 17:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"1. yuo dont know me. but I was in your straigt at the time yuo were and you were on staff



2# you have said before, pickler, thtat your brothes head got put therough a wall..change your story now. go aehad. its habit around here.




Gee dude, you are so funny, again...obviously you were not in straight w/me, cause I wasn't on staff.

and, obviously, your head is still full of pot (or shit), cause none of my bro's were in straight.  My little brother was 7 at the time I was in straight, my brother was 22 and in Hawaii doing the navy thing.  

you know, I am so glad I ain't you.  I got a good life, I am partner in a land planning and development firm and construction comapny.  I got a nice home, fixin to build a new one, even nicer...3 acres on a lake and a brand spanking new home.  I am an empty nester so my wife and I can finally travel and do the stuff that old people do.  And yes, I got degrees....2 in fact.  I bet you don't cause your grammer and spelling is shit.

Ha Ha, now go back to your pathetic life. :wave:
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: kpickle39 on July 09, 2005, 08:33:00 PM
oh yeah, that me was posting above.  So go back to your shittly little life; one where no wants you....and they were right about one  thing in straight, you are a worthless piece of shit.

So again, go back to that pathetic world you call your life and that ugly bitch of a girl friend you have. Yes, mofo, I do know you.[ This Message was edited by: kpickle39 on 2005-07-09 17:34 ]
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: mbell1960 on July 09, 2005, 10:29:00 PM
Mike Sherman I remember you. Nope don't recall you being on staff. Sounds like you're doing well these days. Damn good in spite of a lot of the jobs gone now in this "new economy". I worked at Lucent Tech for 6 years and was shown the door. Now have job with the Railroad. It is a trip reading alot of these posts but aside from that its good to see alot of you doing so well at "middle age?". Thats a trip too!!
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2005, 01:36:00 AM
kpcikle, no, you are the worhtless piece of shit if you thnk you know me. I WAS in straigt with you, you never made it past junior after graduating.

I used to also hang out with a few of the hired church members. I am female I should remind yuo sinc you didn't pay attntion to any of my post the last coupl of days in here.

Yuo screamed out tio the people at th hotel Smbelr came to that yuor borther's head got put throoug a wall. I spolke to them alater on and they aasked did any of that thigns really happen to the people who were sceraming at them about it and waving around psoter boards.

Hye, I'm all about helping serviovrs. I just don't understand why you would solicite the need for any information from survivors and then say you respect anonymity at all. yuo beg for names on heer, give your own if that is who you are...and comme here knowing that your enemies are still free. I hav seen pics of you, and others claiming they will get even pbut I don't see any of that being done. I see and read large and exxagerated lies, not plain boring ones, but hugge fukking big whoppers ones about capitil rapes and defeckations and all kindsa shit and then a bunch oaf whining about statutes.

You do realize, being a land planner and all...yes, I read newespapers and hav esome informnants whoh go to court seesions too, you would have some knowledge that we live in a free court society where aNYIONE is aloud to go and file a court case. I knw you know, but you don't do that. The questions remains that if you refuse to file a case are your afraid or do you work for the man. Tha's the only questions that remaisn unanswered. Are you afreaid or are you working for the man ? Incquiring mainds want to know.

Now where's my girl who wrote that awesome report for the Miller Newton hearing back a few months agao. She tells it like it really is. No bones, just meat.

Your girl Sam always pipes down when asked who her enemies that raped her are. She gest vurry vurry queit all of  a suddne. I've sene posts where she gets loud, but then when asked thatquestion she gets gone and caint be found aat all.

I'm all qbout equal oppurtunity through gettin even and spreading the news about child abuse in institutions. But if you're gonna do it, bdon't be stupid abou tit and lie alot to hide your intentionas.j You think, Mike Sherman, that Straight was for the best. YOu may not have appprvedof everthing that went on thre, but it was all fr the best and you will not stop until you find more srvivvors you can lie to about it.

So, the other question (I lied about having only 1 questions) was did both you and Cap'ts brother's hads get put through walls or is that just like an insinia claim that we all make about straigt?

It's all just a big consiparciy to get at you man. peek a=boo! ooohweeeoohweeeeeoooooooooweeeee.....
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2005, 01:55:00 AM
You ain't shit and you're obviously to drunk and/or stupid to type.

I'm k-pickle and I'm here t' say... :lol:
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2005, 01:57:00 AM
Shut up asshole, (we) that is to say I, if that really is my name, have no goddamned fucking clue as to what you are talking about. It was my FATHER who was on staff, not my brother. I'm a constuctionist and I shoot a mean game of billiards. Fuck off and die! :skull:
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2005, 09:16:00 AM
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On 2005-07-09 22:36:00, Anonymous wrote:

"kpcikle, no, you are the worhtless piece of shit if you thnk you know me. I WAS in straigt with you, you never made it past junior after graduating.

"


no, you stupid bitch, maybe you were in straight with me, but you obviously have very little memory left.......no, I didn't make it to staff, never tried, never wanted it.  I'm through fucking around with you.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: kpickle39 on July 10, 2005, 09:17:00 AM
yeah, that was me again....Hi Mark.  Good to see you are posting and made it out ok.  Take care, PM if you want.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: linchpin on July 10, 2005, 11:32:00 AM
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On 2005-07-09 17:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"1. yuo dont know me. but I was in your straigt at the time yuo were and you were on staff



2# you have said before, pickler, thtat your brothes head got put therough a wall..change your story now. go aehad. its habit around here.



Capt has been saying that HER brothe's haed got put therough a wall now to. Scirt the wquestions, it remains unanswerd. Did both yoor brothe's haeds get put therough walls ? or is this another falacy by the ldcomer straigt staff like sammy who refuses to tell the truth and let us know what th enames of her attakcers? and Who on HRS would dare to force her abortion from anybody, even a fukcing president, who said so. youhang out with sam, or 4you have kpckler. yuo where doing that whloe 'file a suit' thing. Are you just now finding this out or sthis something you've beein doing now for thirty years that you've known your abuse???



At what [point Mike Shrman, did you realize that Straight was braking the law on yuo? Did you begin to see it in the eightees, the seventees, or in the nineties when they finally shtu down and you had no cause left to work fore? How amny other suvivers are you going to take donw and tell them that yours and Capt.'s brothe's haeds wer put therough walls bfore you ever tell them that you have no real need to file any kind of suit. By now, you and all your smrta little freinds should have filed a suti.



I mene, it has been thrity years now that you've know about your abuse. Mabye you are all real, but mabye your'e justt lazs.



So you claim you never said that your brothers haed got put through a wall and that you weer nevre on straigt stafff. Sam clames she eithe rwon't or can't remember who forced her to have these abortions and seductively raped her, a guy on staff where wer ALL made to remember the Chain of Command. I mean this guy must have just come off the street if he had reaped her and she cna't remember his name. No wait, thats tnot rigt, she said he raped her plenty of times and kept coming bakc for moer.



Stop liyieng. And that's the prrblem with you stafers. sammie has already begged for a name, too,. Is taht all yuo got? I giv eyou my name and you'll shutup for good nd stop heckling sevivors to come forward so you can prtect Mel and the otehr creators of straitht??



Itwould be a fare trade if I got someothign in return for it. I giv yoe my name and yuo agree to have yourself, Semmi, capt., carmel,ray, wes, and all the otehr formre stafers come forwrd and tell it liek it reelly si. Sam will name her attackers, ray will drop all his fake ass claims against Sember his idck sucking buddy, and wes will stop exxagertaing the truth abotu Staright in order to get information from servivors. Or I wuld be happy an satfisted if RAchael and Sammy woud give the names of their rapists. That's some serious shit to claim and exxagerate that soemoen raped you, especially on a surviors forum and not to say who did it. I would nwant to hurty someoen if thye didi that to tme. I woudld give you my name and addrss if i new that their sstatemetns to tthe police were legitimate.



And to Sammie, yoru crimes happened when you WHAT, under 12 right? There is NO statutes on that shit.  A capital cerime has NO statutes on it. You're a fcking liar Sammie and all the rest of you shits!!!!



she'll get froggy about her education which is inprovble, but whenver someone mentions her tosay the name of her rpaists and abortionists, she has done little work to remember the most importnt thigns.



evnetually, peoeple start to catch on when they hang out in places lay low for awhile and see what is going on where they are. Here, its a bunch of nay sayers. So whye the fuck did I start coming here. I am llooking for somonee with some integrity who can say it like it is without chaning their storeis, without lieing and holding back ANY and ALL ifnormation, so that some realy real fucking healign can begn.



Haven't seen 'em yet, may ake longer than I thot. I hear dthere was a hicld who used to come on here and she was raped in straight at age 10. She nevr said mch about it, she was looking for honest servivors, said she never found any though. She would have been about thirty now. Mostly here is obvious staffers who don't want anyone to know they are former staff of Straight, or at least still happy about their experience at Straight an dbeleve in that cause today ."


Come back when you learn how to spell..Fuck, your post hurts my brain trying to decipher your caveman typing..
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2005, 12:38:00 PM
"Come back when you learn how to spell..Fuck, your post hurts my brain trying to decipher your caveman typing.. "

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2005, 05:31:00 PM
Mike ckeeps saynig that he is through eevr posting here, yuo've been saying that now for about a year or mroe. He has said manyposts that he is not going to post here anymore. He is part of the problem here, alway sdiscussing his dsitaste for the thing stheat were done to him at STraigt Inc. But you are part of the problem michale. Yuo will never ben anything but  a straigtling.

So, kpeickler, do what sam and the rest of your little fuckbuddyes keepe teelling everyone selse to do. Move on. Fraud.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: kpickle39 on July 10, 2005, 07:56:00 PM
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On 2005-07-10 14:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Mike ckeeps saynig that he is through eevr posting here, yuo've been saying that now for about a year or mroe. "


Actually, that is the first thing you have said that is remotely true.  I think it was once, maybe twice I said I wouldn't post here anymore, but you know, something keeps pulling me back to fornits.  Maybe it's reading the crap that spews from peoples minds.  Who knows, now couple of questions for the anon in ya don't mind

1.   what year(s) were you in straight.

2.   Do you really think I was on staff?

3.   If you do, then when pray tell was I a staff member?

4.   Do you really think I work for Sembler?  If so, please explain how and what I "do" for him.

5.   Have you made it past 3rd grade, because if you did, you must not have learned much.

[ This Message was edited by: kpickle39 on 2005-07-10 16:56 ]
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2005, 08:59:00 PM
you exxagrate. you won't asnwer the question. Yuo said yoru watched yuor brohter's haed get put throgh a wall. Marty , Capt., ona trailer say she saw her's gettin put throug a wwall. Which is it, or is it both. Its fane if you jsust want tosay you didn't say it. It's fine isf Sam can't tell us who raped the fucking shit out of her time and time and time agan. But if she can't name the people at HRS who permitted her illegal abortion, and if she can't name her boyfirend on staf who reaped her, then she desrved everything she gets inclidin this here reeming because she is exxageratning too.

The folks whod have the chanse to speak with you tie and agan knwo whthat you had no intntions to filing a suit, EVEr.

And I'll ask the questions first.

Why haven't you filed a suit. Is it fear or what is its that keeps you from doing what you shoudl do??? again.

Did both your brother's head get put through a wall like you said and almost five youngens heard you screaming it, or is this an sinsignia thing that all the former graduates/staff say to hoodwink real survivors.  again.

Answer these questions honestly with the answers you know everone alrday knows the answers to. The maybe we can aks me some questions.

We can be nicce to one another, but it just doesn't seem like there is much integrity when you come from your feer. Same goes with someone named Rachael who claims shhe was reaped at Straigt. She won't name her attackers. I take personall aoffense to this as a woman, and if you can't come forward as a group and file because of capital offences then yuo desrved wha tyou get thin and nnow. Stop yuoor useliss protessting, and all the sshit you say you ddo to help  until you cen ereealy help yorself.  

like I told sam, you want to file a suit ...lets do it. File th fufukcing shit on a dammd napkins far aoll I care, I'll back uit up. But you won't. I read another post that someo peeple had filed a sute aw hile agao, wha thapppened to this one. annOther sembeler funng game? samm won't file a suit, even though she lied on public televsin, because it never hepppaned - she was never raped and raped is nto funny to be fucking around about. You got reaped and you claim so did others lik eyourself and that HRS was paying for abortions ...give up the fucking names. Mike, you got busterd in straIgt, name some anmames, gather some evidence. let s get on with the fight, stop  pussy footin around. risk it all or like yuo say, Move On. Yuo beettered hope that if you werre raped that your filing never makes it into court thuough. Pergury like that will get you locked up and NOT one person but yuor one hour once yearly counslor you se ee n lock up won't give a shit either. He gets paid eithe rway, and probly by yoru enemmies pockest.

it shold be vobvious to yuo about some of th things that I exxagerate, it happins alot 9n here. I don't like being told that yuo were raped if yuo were not, I don't have time for that and I don';t have the neneergy to give you sympathie for a tind that ddinrdn't happen. I don't lke hearing the sexackt tsame story from two different pepple saings its their own. It takes a litte bit of corrobrations to do tthat.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: kpickle39 on July 10, 2005, 09:36:00 PM
Ok, here are some answers,

1.  No, I never said my brother's head was put thru the wall....as I said earlier, my younger brother was 7 when I entererd the program and my older brother was around 22.  He was in the Navy.  He went on one of those sibling interviews, that was the closet he ever was to straight.

 
"Why haven't you filed a suit. Is it fear or what is its that keeps you from doing what you shoudl do??? "

2.  Statue of limitations runs out 5 years after a person turns 18 according to Florida law.  Don't think I haven't checked it out.  Spent about 1 year looking for lawyers.  All said the same thing.  I am not the victim of a capital crime.  The only way to toll the statutes is to tie straight and the state of Florida to RICO crimes.

"Did both your brother's head get put through a wall like you said and almost five youngens heard you screaming it, or is this an sinsignia thing that all the former graduates/staff say to hoodwink real survivors.

3.  I really can't understand what you are writing here.   When I went to a protest, I did tell people that I was thrown into a wall for reading a cereal box.  I said that becuse it is true.  Do you remember the rule? No reading 'cept the bible on 1st phase?  


" Mike, you got busterd in straIgt, name some anmames, gather some evidence. let s get on with the fight, stop  pussy footin around. risk it all or like yuo say, Move On. "

4.  I can name some of the people that fucked with me.  I mostly was fucked with by my oldcomer and his foster brothers.  I got fucked and busted at drop off's and at home.  I got jumped on my birthday when I tried to leave.  It was my 5th day in the program.  I got jumped once again when I tried to leave.    If you were in straight, I am sure you saw people restrained, and tackled.  

So that is honest.  You know, I try and be honest in my life.  I work hard, I am a good parent and husband.  I have tried to do what I can to stop the abuse in the treatment industry. No, I haven't been able to accomplish much, but I have done what I can.  

Why haven't I done more?  Maybe because I don't have the balls to "risk-it-all" I don't have the money or time to quit working and do what it would take to prove RICO.  I personally think it is provable, but I am a land planner, not a fucking lawyer.  I am a small business owner.  I don't have time for doing much more any more than posting on fornits.  My wife and I put on 2 conferences to try and get the word out about child abuse in the treatment industry.  You shoulda been there.  Maybe you can do something to help.

Oh yeah another answer for you.

You wondered when I knew straight was abusive?   I know the answer just like you do.  The moment I  walked into group, I knew something was strange.  The first time I saw a kid confronted I knew it was fucked up.  The first time I saw a kid hit, punched restrained,  denied the privledge of bodily functions, I knew that was wrong.   As I think many of us did, for years, I told myself that even tho straight was so fucked up, "it saved my life"   Not until I became a parent did I realize it was child abuse.  Not until I read and learned about mental abuse did I really recognize what went on in my head and soul for the time I was in straight.  

Answer these questions honestly with the answers you know everone alrday knows the answers to. The maybe we can aks me some questions.

I have answered your questions.  I have told you the truth.  Where have I written anywhere els but here about my brothers?


Ask me more if you want.  I will try and answer them all.  [ This Message was edited by: kpickle39 on 2005-07-10 18:38 ]
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Helena Handbasket on July 10, 2005, 09:45:00 PM
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Move on. Fraud."


Ahh... here we go with the "fraud" shit again.  Funny how you  - who does nothing, has nothing of consequence to say, and has nothing to OFFER -  always wants to pull the "fraud" line out.  Prove you're not the fraud, asshole.  We've already seen who the real deals are.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: kpickle39 on July 10, 2005, 09:49:00 PM
just listened to the trailer again. Everything I said was true.   Didn't mention my brother anywhere.  Think it was another person that did.  Maybe you should listen to it again.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2005, 10:17:00 PM
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On 2005-07-10 08:32:00, linchpin wrote:

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Quote

On 2005-07-09 17:04:00, Anonymous wrote:


"1. yuo dont know me. but I was in your straigt at the time yuo were and you were on staff





2# you have said before, pickler, thtat your brothes head got put therough a wall..change your story now. go aehad. its habit around here.





Capt has been saying that HER brothe's haed got put therough a wall now to. Scirt the wquestions, it remains unanswerd. Did both yoor brothe's haeds get put therough walls ? or is this another falacy by the ldcomer straigt staff like sammy who refuses to tell the truth and let us know what th enames of her attakcers? and Who on HRS would dare to force her abortion from anybody, even a fukcing president, who said so. youhang out with sam, or 4you have kpckler. yuo where doing that whloe 'file a suit' thing. Are you just now finding this out or sthis something you've beein doing now for thirty years that you've known your abuse???





At what [point Mike Shrman, did you realize that Straight was braking the law on yuo? Did you begin to see it in the eightees, the seventees, or in the nineties when they finally shtu down and you had no cause left to work fore? How amny other suvivers are you going to take donw and tell them that yours and Capt.'s brothe's haeds wer put therough walls bfore you ever tell them that you have no real need to file any kind of suit. By now, you and all your smrta little freinds should have filed a suti.





I mene, it has been thrity years now that you've know about your abuse. Mabye you are all real, but mabye your'e justt lazs.





So you claim you never said that your brothers haed got put through a wall and that you weer nevre on straigt stafff. Sam clames she eithe rwon't or can't remember who forced her to have these abortions and seductively raped her, a guy on staff where wer ALL made to remember the Chain of Command. I mean this guy must have just come off the street if he had reaped her and she cna't remember his name. No wait, thats tnot rigt, she said he raped her plenty of times and kept coming bakc for moer.





Stop liyieng. And that's the prrblem with you stafers. sammie has already begged for a name, too,. Is taht all yuo got? I giv eyou my name and you'll shutup for good nd stop heckling sevivors to come forward so you can prtect Mel and the otehr creators of straitht??





Itwould be a fare trade if I got someothign in return for it. I giv yoe my name and yuo agree to have yourself, Semmi, capt., carmel,ray, wes, and all the otehr formre stafers come forwrd and tell it liek it reelly si. Sam will name her attackers, ray will drop all his fake ass claims against Sember his idck sucking buddy, and wes will stop exxagertaing the truth abotu Staright in order to get information from servivors. Or I wuld be happy an satfisted if RAchael and Sammy woud give the names of their rapists. That's some serious shit to claim and exxagerate that soemoen raped you, especially on a surviors forum and not to say who did it. I would nwant to hurty someoen if thye didi that to tme. I woudld give you my name and addrss if i new that their sstatemetns to tthe police were legitimate.





And to Sammie, yoru crimes happened when you WHAT, under 12 right? There is NO statutes on that shit.  A capital cerime has NO statutes on it. You're a fcking liar Sammie and all the rest of you shits!!!!





she'll get froggy about her education which is inprovble, but whenver someone mentions her tosay the name of her rpaists and abortionists, she has done little work to remember the most importnt thigns.





evnetually, peoeple start to catch on when they hang out in places lay low for awhile and see what is going on where they are. Here, its a bunch of nay sayers. So whye the fuck did I start coming here. I am llooking for somonee with some integrity who can say it like it is without chaning their storeis, without lieing and holding back ANY and ALL ifnormation, so that some realy real fucking healign can begn.





Haven't seen 'em yet, may ake longer than I thot. I hear dthere was a hicld who used to come on here and she was raped in straight at age 10. She nevr said mch about it, she was looking for honest servivors, said she never found any though. She would have been about thirty now. Mostly here is obvious staffers who don't want anyone to know they are former staff of Straight, or at least still happy about their experience at Straight an dbeleve in that cause today ."




Come back when you learn how to spell..Fuck, your post hurts my brain trying to decipher your caveman typing..
"

 Linchpin,
  Your juvenile satanic photos show exactly where your mentally and intellect are - you have NO ROOM to talk!   :lol:
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2005, 10:34:00 PM
speeling mistakes cin get yuo banend! Run rabbite run!
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 10, 2005, 10:48:00 PM
Rachael was in AARC, dumbass.  :rofl:

(Animals. mutter mutter...)

(Animals likes to challenge the facts. He's playing devil's advocate. He's trying to get us worked up for this day in court thing. He's playin like the lawyer for the defense is going to play, real offensive! Go Animals! Scrimmage! Tweeeet!)
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2005, 01:09:00 AM
ooooooooohhweeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooohhhtuweeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttt!!!

One gril I spole to says that she heard you say, at a Tampa protest mike, you watched your borther's haed get put throgh a wall.

Cap't Marti say's HER brotehrs' head got put throgh a wall in the Survviovrs'.

This girl used the exact wrods yuo used, and Marti used thme too. Another simple msitake? This formu of staff and graduates seem sto lmake alot of those simple smistakes.

And where is SAmm and Rachael? They won't say a fucking word because if they come oforward and start mnaming names its called slander and pergury.

Not my problem, its funny to me. Some people, all they have is what was done to them so you go and make up shit and others pick up on something tat snounds good to them and they start using it. Oh, I was defeckated on, oI was reaped. I was toorturred.

I repsect wha tyuo haev to say mjike, at lesat you can defend yuosrlef. I may not be the bsest speler in the hwole world, al little nevrous evne, but a tleast I don't have to ptu up with ohter woemen refusing to come forward with who rapde them when it didn happened a t all. I was raped as a child. I know damm well hwo my attacker is, it happened aftert straigt when I was drugged. I beeileve that is happense because of I need to gte aawy from waht happned to me at straith.

So, i f a few of you women are raped at straigt, there is some law, somewhere that holds that racketeering is unlawful. This is your RIcO kit rigt there.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Troubled Turd on July 11, 2005, 01:52:00 AM
My bruther's hed done got put thru a fukkin wall once. This was after he done told this dumb sumbitch to go to hell after the fucker LOST a game o pool to him down at the Swaller. This fukkin jackass was unner the impreshun that he done won the game. Dojn't rightly know hwy the fuk he thought that since he sunk trhe gotdamned eightball! :lol:

He claymed the table was bumped and it fell in. My bruther refused to go along with this crap. push came t shove and the ASSHOLE grabbed my poor dear bruther and threw his ass into the wall so damn hard that his head went right thru t t'other side sure nuf.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: kpickle39 on July 11, 2005, 06:24:00 AM
"One gril I spole to says that she heard you say, at a Tampa protest mike, you watched your borther's haed get put throgh a wall"

Well, if you heard that, then she was mistaken.  Geez, now it went from many people to one girl.  Which is it anon?
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: kpickle39 on July 11, 2005, 06:57:00 AM
" This is your RIcO kit rigt there"

No sorry, rape is not RICO.  Strictly interpreted, rape in Florida, has a 5 year statute of limitations.  For us as children, it happened that our clock did not start ticking until we were 18.  

RICO is a term used for crimes that include racketeering and colusion.  I beleive that the state of FLorida coluded with straight inc to keep it open and running so it could move toward making more of the almighty dollar.  Some of these dollars, then   went to support powerful polilticians during the 70's to the 90's.  I believe that state officials and straight officials worked together to achieve this end.  That, is a RICO crime.

Go look at the movie trailer again.  I am the first person that is interviewed.  Look at me...come on, that guy was never on staff.  As I said before, I wanted out.  I graduated, went to some grad and 7th step meetings. Never on staff.  Thank God.

Now, I have been honest with you.  I will answer any question that I can that you may have for me.  If you like, you can email me.  Just click the email link below.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2005, 12:05:00 PM
1#. One girl frm the many who wre therer at thas protest in tampa abouty eght months agao.

2#. If two or more of the fmales that sam ha mentiond wre also rped and that staf wre doin it t them too, it is RiCO becase it bcomes a mtter of large gang busting and rackteriing. Correct, one case of rape is not RiCO. Although rachel, frm wat i inderstand was no in straigt, sam has claimeed that mkany girls in her straight were done the same as she was with the forced HRsS abbortiosns. Fro this you could implicate HRs and some others if this was bing done to more than just sam like she says.

If you look at simple denition os rioc laws you'll see that there is a slew of difrent things that straight hcould be held lible for, and that it does not mater they are no longer around. Capital crimes of rape don't have a statutes ofs limiations if the child is under a certain age, and samme apparetnly thinks this happened to at least some other girls i n h er straigt when seh was in.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2005, 12:23:00 PM
I jst personlly find it very odd that noone has come ofrwrd and reelly filed a suti or at least wound up oin jail for beeting up a staff memember. That cold be from many reesons that noone has come. straigt did alot to us, reelly pushed us down, made us nt care. Made us not think anyone esle cared. and some of us stll thinkthat way. takin a sue someone is alot of effrt.

I caer dammmit. I will take donation to beeast up foirmer stsaff and creators. Wacth yoru bakc Smemblre nnad Mimller.

Wats more odd is the exxagereated stoires yuo wil here when peoele have been represssd. they are goin to say nything to get tehir sotory heard.

"Man, they tottally killed me. and thnen they resuscictated me. Then thye fucking kllied me again only to bring me back, those bstards. Some weeeks I would be killed off and be rvived so much that evntually layed down and let them do it to me whnever they wanted."

Such is the wrds of the opprsd, and whne it is pulibcs norm to opprss others it make sit even easier for evl to cover its trcks in pepo;les' minds. i'm almost done reeding evyery post not in ordr, I don't hav e time to do it that way. its stikes me a sVERy off that nobody has noconnected intheir brain that if there wer like ten of you or some number, there is someone who can be hedl liabel inc ourt.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2005, 12:24:00 PM
get a fuckin room you two. no one else gives a shit. get over yourselves.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Antigen on July 11, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
Do you really find it funny? Ok, I'll explain. At the time, I didn't even understand that I was the victim of real crime. I didn't. Honestly. I knew I wanted out, that it was fucked up and, even more, that I was addaled and confused and needed to get back to the real world and clear my head.

By the time I realized that I was a victim of real crime, it was too late anyway. And, more than that, that I got off extremely easy! If I were going to go to the trouble of involving myself in any criminal or civil proceedings, I would do it on behalf of people like Bobby and Joe and a couple of girls who's first names I won't mention who were forced to have abortions (one of them was a Seedling, not a Straightling)

Trouble is, my memory is shoddy. Another problem is that, the few really definite objective criminal abuse incidents that I can clearly remember, I can't find the victims. I don't know if they want to dredge this shit up or not. As for myself, well somebody broke my nose. I honestly can't remember who. Might have been Marti (she was in on that TR) Might have been a nice lady named Kim who was also in on it. Might have been someone else. I didn't even know my nose had been broken till years later when it happened again and a doctor told me that my nose was broken. These days, the evidence is gone and I never did know who dealt that particular braking blow. Wouldn't matter anyway, it wasn't her fault. She only did what she had to. It was not intentional on her part. The real culprits would only get off anyway.

So, as far as I'm concerned, there is no instument of criminal or civil justice that will make things right or better or in any meaningful way address my grievance. The only means of redress that holds any meaning for me in this instance is the IVth Estate. Get the word out, remove the mystery and secrecy. The Program absolutely depends on the secrecy and the mystery.

Rampant talking out in group


God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.


--Voltaire (1694-1778)

Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2005, 04:58:00 PM
Rampant talking out in group, I agree, and I admire the way that kpickle is willing to address the questions of the other poster. The other poster makes some points that bear repeating: why hasn't anyone filed this suit, what are the facts, why don't people remember the specifics, and why haven't people filed affidavits. Well I typed up an affidavit yesterday and lo and behold I do recall on behalf of one or two other people some full names there, who did what. It is a story that can be put together better if people get together with their memories. Already some of us are helping each other's memories.

Like you were saying the other day, just don't give them any authority, and the authority here would be any rule of law or anything that says we do not have a case. This is the country of the people, damnit! I don't care what any law or lawyer says, you cannot systematically abuse children by the thousands with not just deprivation of basic human rights and the more heinous and obvious abuses, but a calculated use of experimental methods of thought reform, KNOWN TO THE GOVERNMENT.

Many many things were known to the Government. Irregardless, we were subjected to KNOWN EXPERIMENTAL THOUGHT REFORM TACTICS. These tactics were very damaging and I know that many of you know it personally.

The specific incidences of abuse are a bad thing. However, I am not even certain that they are key to any case. Fuck the S.O.L.s.

If we yield to hopelessness, then it is a hopeless country that we hand down to the next generation. This public humiliation of various former staff and board is trite, useless, and essentially unsatisfying. A great wrong was done to thousands of children. I will not suffer that, and all the years of hardship because of the after effects, and then "Have a seat" when I am told that any court case is hopeless due to some bullshit regarding statutes of limitations and so on. There must be some redress for these wrongs and we all know it. It is NOT RIGHT that we should be told again and again to "Have a seat!"  What are we going to sing now, the National Anthem? Look, this country was founded on revolutionary ideas. If you have any patriotic sense that the U.S. stands for something, get back to the original ideas of a government by the people for the people and your basic civil rights and liberties. We are the people. If the Government and the Laws as they stand leave no opening for the redress of the wrongs of Straight, Inc., then we have to make an opening via a claims bill or special legislation. If we "Have a seat!" we might as well sit down in a totalitarian regime. Stand the fuck up, people, and walk out the door. B.P.
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Post by: Anonymous on July 11, 2005, 05:36:00 PM
Quote
If you have any patriotic sense that the U.S. stands for something, get back to the original ideas of a government by the people for the people and your basic civil rights and liberties.


I think the US Government stands for the right of corporate interests to screw us.  Can't think of anything else they do......
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2005, 12:26:00 AM
Oh gdos! Fukc yuo peace of shit. Bla bhla blha.

Show tme the documents tha tclairifies that Semblers, Melvin swas ever a cerator of STraight Inc.

Thjis al ljust semes like on ebig sham to me.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2005, 10:45:00 PM
The sham is your misspellings, sweetheart.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
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Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2005, 01:55:00 PM
No. You owe me certain items of promised looking into. Prog report, please.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2005, 02:06:00 AM
What items would that be, misbehavor. I don't owe you a fucking thing. Now sit down or be restrained. Bitch.
Title: "My brother's head got put through a wall!"
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2005, 07:44:00 AM
Oh you love me. fuck off then.