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The Seed Discussion Forum / More Trivia
« on: August 12, 2005, 01:54:00 AM »
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On 2005-08-11 21:59:00, rod wrote:

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  Cathy,

    If you are still living in the same neighbourhood as Enie Peterman please tell her that Rod said hello and that I hope her and her family are doing well.We knew each other at Bogie.She entered the Seed a few months before I did"

Enie was instrumental in my recovery and one of my VERY favorite staff - please tell Enie I say "hello" and hope all is well w/ her world. I don't imagine she would remember me, personally, but would like to thank her just the same!

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Against My Better Judgement
« on: August 12, 2005, 01:47:00 AM »
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On 2005-08-11 19:25:00, Filobeddoe wrote:
"Greetings to you again John from a fellow Seed graduate. I am glad that you took some time to read other posts & to respond again.
The whole point of relating in a forum like this is to share "your" experiences and the events that affected "your" life.
Let's face it.. The Seed used pretty extreme peer pressure to counteract peer pressure. Some call it brain-washing and it could certainly have good & ill effects. Particularly if there is no room for debating certain issues, which the program did not tolerate. The Seed wasn't a messy democracy but a more efficient dictatorship..


OK, NOW I FINALLY GET IT...Isn't it Greg, Antigen and Stripe that are using EXTREME peer pressure to create a more efficient dictatorship?  ::bigsmilebounce::

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Some insight(s)
« on: August 11, 2005, 12:23:00 AM »
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On 2005-08-09 11:09:00, GregFL wrote:

"Funny you would say that. I spent about 10 years thinking confronting people that were "full of shit" was a good thing and often got in people's faces over little to nothing.

Also, For many years I was inapropriately "open and honest" with people who hadn't earned the right to know intimate knowledge about me. Very often this backfired in awefully painfull ways.

I thought these behaviors were actually a socially acceptable and productive  way to behave in the real world.

They are not. I had a very hard time attracting and keeping friends and partners until I figured this out.  

Another chapter of...

 "seed gifts I could have lived without".

Funny, I've had an entirely different experience; when appropriate, I STILL confront those when I think they are "full of shit" and they end up understanding and respecting me OR, they stay out of my space. I kinda like surrounding myself w/ people who are committed to their values and passions!  :nworthy:

However, DO enjoy your trip Greg!

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Some insight(s)
« on: August 07, 2005, 04:36:00 PM »
John Underwood,YOU ROCK! Always did and still do!

:nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  ::kiss::

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The Seed Discussion Forum / How did you tell your children, spouse about the Seed?
« on: June 29, 2005, 11:09:00 PM »
I married a Seed graduate, 3 yrs out of the program so there was never any 'splaining to do.  When our son reached his pre-teens and started to explore his rebellious side, we both spoke very candidly to him of our experiences. He's smart and fortunately understood.  Incidently, my ex really didn't need to be there, but doesn't harbor ill feelings either.

I was very fucked up and grateful to have come through it all alive! I've always been forthcoming with serious relationships, as I'm very proud of my accomplishments and want to share the experience w/ my friends and others. I like to surround myself w/ intelligent, strong, self-realized people so, it's always been a hoot to discuss my "boot camp days" at the Seed - it makes for great conversation, you know?

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Where are all the St Pete Seed peeps??
« on: June 15, 2005, 01:13:00 AM »
I traveled w/ several close friends and a few acquaintances during the years I was involved in the Seed and would love to hear from anyone who knew me.

After graduation, I lived w/ four other girls; Julie B (I know she got married to Jeff B), Mary C (I worked w/ her dad at a '5 & Dime' store in St Pete), Rheda (sp) and Jane(?).  We hung out w/ the guys in the St Pete house; brothers Bob and Mike R, Dan H (who is no longer w/ us), Ken H, Dana D, Doug S, and others I can't seem to place at the moment.

I remember those times sitting on the 'guys' St Pete house roof, watching the cops run the red lights and stop signs and thinking what a bunch of trite hypocrites they were. I also remember contemplating our existence.  Remember the movies "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" and
"Siddhartha"? Those were the movies at the time.  Made ALL OF US wonder...and question.

We were growing up and - as adolescense gives way to adulthood - showed interest in a cult of a different color; "The Holy Order of Mans",  conveniently located not far from the 'guys' house. Well, as we went about exploring our adulthood, the interest in that cult diminished and we all moved on.  

I remained in contact w/ a few for a while (gave my cat, Sunny, to Dana when I moved to CA) and lost touch w/ others.  I was probably considered an outcast because I had *GASP* a relationship that did not receive the Seeds' blessings.  Nor did I continue to hang around - I needed to explore what I had missed (during my drug use and time served at the Seed). I was growing up and needed to make my own decisions w/o help of the Seed or others.  I felt guilty at first, but not for long.  I stumbled and grew as any other human being might encounter while growing up.

And, to tell you the truth, it hasn't been that bad...I stagger onward, rejoicing!!  It's all good.

Let me hear from you!!

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Where are all the St Pete Seed peeps??
« on: March 31, 2005, 12:16:00 AM »
Not quite sure why this thread expanded like it did but I'll ask the MODS???

If I've mis-stepped, let me know dudes.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Where are all the St Pete Seed peeps??
« on: March 29, 2005, 09:39:00 PM »
Welcome, what year(s) did you attend?

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The Seed Discussion Forum / More Trivia
« on: March 17, 2005, 04:17:00 AM »
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Must have been the latter, since I was not of driving age at the time. I chose to go to the Seed. I was not under any external threat or compulsion. I get the impression this was a bit unusual, but I guess it explains why I wasn't yelled at or locked in. I was not a flight risk.
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DITTO, My friend...It's good to know we were not all "Gregs" or "Gingers"   :eek:

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Did the seed introduce us to a higher power?
« on: January 22, 2005, 03:07:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-22 09:55:00, Fran wrote:

"The reason I remember that we said the Lords Prayer is how we held hands when we said it...and years later when I went to church we would do the same thing and it brought back the memory of doing it at the seed.

Thank you for backing me up on this Trucker and Anon...it was not a figment of my imagination."


Ditto for me, too!

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Seed/CEDU
« on: January 02, 2005, 04:30:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-01 13:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Robin, I hope I'm not misunderstanding you, but it seems that you feel these kids deserved the unethical, harmful, and dangerous practices of unsafe lockdowns, abusive all day raps, and other coercive "therapies" that really don't teach kids to deal with the real world.  "


You are absolutely correct in saying those kids DID NOT deserve the abuse they received. I have witnessed other programs which sucessfully teaches kids to deal with the real world and the Seed fell very short in preparing us for our future - we had to learn that on our own.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Seed/CEDU
« on: January 01, 2005, 04:03:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-31 10:11:00, GregFL wrote:

"Also Robin, I was PADLOCKED in my room at night and there was one window and a big doberman was under it. I was told he would kill me if I went out the window.



Well, I was there by my own admission, so maybe that was the reason to not lock me in. There was really no where for me to go - I WANTED to get my shit together...and did!

Greg, you strike me as someone that NEEDED lock down  :lol: (half kidding)

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Seed/CEDU
« on: December 31, 2004, 05:35:00 AM »
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On 2004-12-30 17:47:00, GregFL wrote:


 The Seed stripped the veneer (AND SEVERAL LAYERS) off  and rejected the "country Club" setting of some of these other programs. This was behavior modification at its most base.  No comfort, the chairs were purposely hard and akward to sit in, no air conditioning except in the staff's office (and this was florida, 100 degree and high humidity), the food wasn't only scarce, it was bad. Ice cold peanut butter sandwiches and one small dixie cup of coolaide a couple times a day. No bathroom priveledges at all, (FOR THE REBELS THAT WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION) you were watched while peeing and defecating (NOT IN MY TIME)and these actions were logged in a book by a bathroom monitor.  You were walked to the bathroom after several initial refusals (NOT)and then watched while you went. Night sleeping was lock down (NOT W/ MY OLDCOMER) with no looking in mirrors, no looking at tv, no reading anything. (THIS WAS A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE FOR ME...)You go home, write about your day, talk about your day, (YES, THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT MY MORAL INVENTORY WAS VERY HELPFUL IN CLARIFYING WHAT I NEEDED TO WORK ON) quick shower and in bed for 4 or 5 hours sleep under lock and key. (NEVER UNDER LOCK AND KEY FOR ME) back up again, transported to the seed and not allowed to look out of the car at billboards or anything. (WELL, THAT'S KINDA WEIRD ...) While at the seed, massive personal verbal attacks could come at any minute and if you nodded off or didn't look directly at the speaker, your fellow prisoners would be compelled to poke you hard in the back and furiously raise their hand to demonstrate their desire to yell at and humiliate you for the outrageous behavior of being tired, bored, or brazen enough to let your back rest against the back of the chair.

All actions were restricted at all times. Meanwhile, they constantly told you they loved you...sort of like an abusive spouse that smacks you in the face and then says they did it out of love...



Sorry...can't relate to most of the above references but I'm sure it was real for some... I guess it was different for each and every one of us, right??


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I bid you peace!

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Fresh blood
« on: December 29, 2004, 12:40:00 PM »
There are many old friends from St. Pete that I would like to hear from so if you know me, or even if you don't, give a shout out and support this forum - whatever your views.

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The Seed Discussion Forum / Fresh blood
« on: December 29, 2004, 01:05:00 AM »
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On 2004-12-28 09:38:00, GregFL wrote:This site has become something I think we should all be proud of, something I wasn't sure would be this successfull.  

Imagine... A forum where people can discuss their experiences and opinions about the seed with people that accept their opinions and offer counter arguments



"...with people that accept their opinions and offer counter arguments"?  And that, my friends, is what I love about this forum.

I've connected w/ some accepting and some controversial souls and it's all been good.  I just wish some weren't 'hell bent' on trying to convince us all it was BAD...VERY, VERY BAD :wave:

Once again, thanks all for making this possible!

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