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Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 08, 2003, 06:35:00 PM
ISAC is currently researching Pathway and would like to hear BOTH sides of the story. Thats right both sides. If YOU are from Pathway within the last five years please call us so that we may ask you some questions about your stay there.

Sincerely,
ISAC( International Survivors Action Committee)
727-596-7118
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2003, 02:46:00 PM
I loved my 37 months I spent there.  I was smoking almost every day when I went into Pathways.   I was angry and not moving forward in my life.  With the grace of pathways the the wonderful treatment modality tht is used there, I am king....Pathways is my God.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2003, 07:17:00 PM
Yes, I too agree. My time there totaled almost 60 months, but it was worth every day.  I was not able to graduate from middle school or high school, but I am alive.   I wasn't able to pass my GED, but I now work at pathways cleaning the offices and bathrooms.  Thank Jesus for my savior - Pathways
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: ehm on May 10, 2003, 12:45:00 AM
Amen.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2003, 11:14:00 AM
Now, now, Mo.  Don't you recognize someone who's being ironic?  I doubt that someone "saved" by them would write that way.  But, if they are sincere, you've just stifled them.  Is that really what you want?
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 10, 2003, 01:56:00 PM
60 months was worth it.  I was smoking lots of pot before I went in.  I was smoking pot at least 4 times a week for God's sake.   I skipped school many times, I missed almost 11 days of  8th grade because I just couldn't accept authority.  Sure, I was humiliated for many months, BUT I DESERVED IT!  I WAS SMOKING CIGS AND POT AND NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER!   IF IT WASN'T FOR PATHWAYS I WOULD BE DEAD, IN JAIL OR INSANE BY NOW.  DON'T YOU PEOPLE GET IT.  PATHWAYS IS MY HIGHER POWER!  PATHWAYS IS MY GOD!   I consider staff like jesus's apostles.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: ehm on May 10, 2003, 03:24:00 PM
I was new and dumb.[ This Message was edited by: Lezli on 2004-08-24 22:22 ]
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Hamiltonf on May 10, 2003, 10:35:00 PM
Yeah, Mo, the guy is being ironic.  He's yelling because we saw through him.  I'd like to hear from someone who really did benefit from Pathways.  I think this guy is just pulling your leg, pushing your buttons if you know what I mean.  If he is real, it might be a good idea to draw him out by logic and argument.  Ask him to explain why he thinks the treatment he got enabled him to live a more fulfilling life. In all likelihood he could have grown out of it if he hadn't had his mummy & daddy panic about his normal teenage behaviour.  And pot? For every single pot-smoker who might need treatment, I'll bet you could point out a dozen who do not.  Pot's benefits to the many - as a means of relaxing, as a means of heightening one's appreciation of music, for example, far outweigh the purported damage to the odd person who might just be unable to control themselves.  But then they might have pre-existing problems.  
You note how those people who extol the virtues of these abusive centres are all pretty much religious fundamentalists?  Sounds like pathways is just a more severe form of hot-gospelling meeting place to me..  truly cult-like.  But come on, you Pathways supporters, lets hear something a little more substantive than SHOUTING and irrational reliance on religion & superstition!
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: ehm on May 11, 2003, 12:24:00 AM
Hamiltonf wrote:
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You note how those people who extol the virtues of these abusive centres are all pretty much religious fundamentalists? Sounds like pathways is just a more severe form of hot-gospelling meeting place to me.. truly cult-like. But come on, you Pathways supporters, lets hear something a little more substantive than SHOUTING and irrational reliance on religion & superstition!



Clink to that! ::cheers::
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2003, 10:04:00 AM
alrighty, I will give you something more.  I was a messed up kid.  I smoked pot and that is ILLEGAL!!  Doing illegal stuff is wrong.  I fought for over 4 years, but finally I grew up.  I went in at 14 and left just after I turned 19 adn I  deserved what happened to me.  Pathways, oh pathways, you are my God, you are my life, you are my savior.  I am nothing with out pathways.  It is my destiny.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: METALGOD8 on May 11, 2003, 10:21:00 AM
You went in at 14 and came out at 19? So how old are you now?
MG8 :smokin:
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2003, 01:29:00 PM
Obviously this guy is full of shit. I know for a fact noone stayed at pathway 60 months.The most I ever heard of was 29. I graduated in 2001, and I would have heard of a situation like that. I also know the woman who cleans the bathroom, and unless anonymous is a big black woman named Dorothy, he's full of shit! LIAR!!!
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2003, 01:58:00 PM
"I also know the woman who cleans the bathroom, and unless anonymous is a big black woman named Dorothy, he's full of shit! LIAR!!!"

Alright, you figured me out.  I'm Dorothy!  LOL
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2003, 03:07:00 PM
Yeah, right.  Smoking pot is wrong because it's illegal.  Why is it illegal? because its wrong!   Ok then.  I can't find that either in the ten commandments or in the beatitudes so... who determined that it was wrong.  Oh, I know... those racists zealots in the days of prohibition who didn't like the idea of those black or mexican pot smoking dudes smoking pot then coming and fucking their white women.   Or worse -- supplying it to the white women , THEN fucking them.    Oh my god, the horror the horror.
Racism is still alive and well in America and we see it in the rantings of John Walter
Peace
Potsmoker at 63.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2003, 08:32:00 PM
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On 2003-05-11 07:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"alrighty, I will give you something more.  I was a messed up kid.  I smoked pot and that is ILLEGAL!!  Doing illegal stuff is wrong.  I fought for over 4 years, but finally I grew up.  I went in at 14 and left just after I turned 19 adn I  deserved what happened to me.  Pathways, oh pathways, you are my God, you are my life, you are my savior.  I am nothing with out pathways.  It is my destiny. "



You're a bovine brainwashed fool. Learn to think for yourself. I weep for your future. You were chewed up and spit out by a cult dumb-ass. Beleive it. I'm so glad I was never as impressionable as you. I too was in for 4 years.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2003, 08:36:00 PM
And to add to the last post, I was in for 4 years, but it was 2 different places. Not Pathway. Straight and one other.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 12, 2003, 12:45:00 PM
the horror, the horror of drug use.  Didn't you folks read what I wrote?  4 times a WEEK!!!!!  I was smoking cigs at 14!   I was a bovine cow to tobacco adn mj at 14.  that is horrible.  I don't care what you say... Pathways is the most wonderful place to be in the world.  In fact, I return reguarly to tell my story.  I spend most of my free time helping others with the wonderful awareness I have received.  I think you folks are just jealous of my power adn the power of Pathways.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 12, 2003, 01:49:00 PM
Sweetheart, what happened to your childhood?  You lost it.  As I had.  You lost it. It was taken away from you.  You were not allowed to learn from your own mistakes. You were controlled beyond belief. You were conned. And it was not your fault. I hope and pray that you find peace and freedom - and the freedom to live and THINK how nature intended you to - on and of your own accord. Making a left turn without using your blinker is illegal also, but would you condem someone for that? Being Catholic was once illegal(circa 1600's early settlement of Americas).  Being Jewish was a major crime in Germany et al..punishable, obviously, by death during WW2.
Use your common sense. Don't be an advertising agent for the Pathway Corporation.  They use young people like you to make more money off of other innocent children's families.  There's a great big wonderful, exciting world out there - feel free to live it and make as many MISTAKES as you want, but just be a part of it - your not as long as your brainwashed. And you are. If you want help, there are people here who can recommend deprogramming therapy.

- A friend.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 12, 2003, 02:52:00 PM
If I am brainwashed, then I hope I never change.  Long Live PATHWAYS!!
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: ehm on May 12, 2003, 04:15:00 PM
:grin: [ This Message was edited by: Lezli on 2004-08-24 22:23 ][ This Message was edited by: Lezli on 2004-08-24 22:23 ]
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: ehm on May 12, 2003, 04:27:00 PM
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On 2003-05-11 10:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Obviously this guy is full of shit. I know for a fact noone stayed at pathway 60 months.The most I ever heard of was 29. I graduated in 2001, and I would have heard of a situation like that. I also know the woman who cleans the bathroom, and unless anonymous is a big black woman named Dorothy, he's full of shit! LIAR!!!"



I think I believe this guy.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 13, 2003, 01:02:00 AM
Clearly, he's found a substitute drug -- Pathway.  
I've heard of people like this.  Most grow out of it in the normal course.  What this guy doesn't realise is the vast majority of people who use marijuana suffer no ill effects.  But children should not be tasting the forbidden fruit until they are old enough  -- whether it is sex, drugs or even cigarettes. I wouldn't dream of giving a 14 year old alcohol, cigarettes, pot, sex, or a car to drive, at least without adult supervision.  They all require a degree of maturity to handle them.  But, if I found my 14 year old smoking cigarettes, I would be more concerned than if I found her experimenting with marijuana.    The key is that cigarettes really are much more harmful. Marijuana may bring about a change or modification in consciousness  -- it can heighten appreciation of music and art for example.  What I would do, as a parent would be to ensure that the child was aware of the dangers (mostly of getting caught ) and try to persuade the child, just as with alcohol,that there's a time and a place for everything, and going to school stoned is not appropriate.  The "Aristotelian Mean"  ---moderation in all things--- would be my motto. It's not the USE of marijuana or alcohol that is a problem it is the ABUSE.  And US drug warriors, because of their puritanical blinkers, think that all use is abuse.  As such, that is where their use of ideology, lies and misrepresentation of the reality of drugs becomes ABUSE of the American population and an abuse of the power that they hold in society.
That's why the drug war fails  -- because the powers that be are addicted to POWER and THAT is an ABUSE.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 13, 2003, 08:02:00 AM
The use of any mind altering drug, and that goes for antidepressants too, causes the teenager  to not mature. I believe also in moderation, but not until you are in your twenties.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 13, 2003, 08:54:00 AM
Exactly my point.  But how many mind altering drugs are pushed on youngsters by ruthless pharmaceutical companies with "approved " drugs. And mind control by these cults is just "mind altering" by coercion.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 13, 2003, 09:07:00 AM
I once saw this cartoon about a kid sittin in a DRs' office saying to the doctor. "OK let me get this straight, your drugs are OK but mine aren't?
  On another topic, who at Pathway remembers a kid just in the last several months taken out for sexually molesting another, but I think it might have been consensual,  anyway it was totally hushed and no parents knew this. God, they are all put in a room together and geez who hasn't masturbated in their life? You know the sexual drive is the most powerful one we have? What about their having a healthy outlet for this? was this EVER talked about? or was it a totally taboo, dirty subject?
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 14, 2003, 08:25:00 AM
Please go to Straights forum and read abush76's writing.  It's phenomenal. PATHWAY STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING!!!!  Parents please take your kids out of there now!!!
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on May 20, 2003, 01:01:00 PM
Leave the cleaning lady out of this.  She is just trying to make a living.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2003, 03:11:00 PM
when my child was at pathway they tryed to get us to put her on antidepressents all the time every week and we said NO WAY, they got very pissed off at us and would hardly speak to us, I was so glad when she graduated and shes been doing great and she isnt sad shes out either, she has learned to deal with life very well she goes to AA and has friends that are clean, pathway gave her tools to learn to stay clean but she doesnt need to go to pathway and hang with the others that our still there, I thought the place sucked and I wish now we would of checked it out alittle better before we spent all that money, they really pulled some crap on us :flame:so pathway suck an egg fart, cuz you really stink :evil:
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2003, 02:19:00 PM
Goddamn you people are stupid. i realize that most of this was posted like a year ago. Whoever is talking about pathway being his savior and all that shit...HE IS BEING SARCASTIC YOU STUPID ASS HOLES. you people sat there for like 8 posts and analyzed the hell out of some dumb teenager trying to be sarcasted and agree with you and make fun of pathway. But you took him seriously and made assholes of your self. You people try to analyze and be smart and use your fanzy words and logic....but you are just plain fools...

 :wstupid:
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2003, 03:55:00 PM
Wow, and look at you. We have Sherlock Holmes here folks. Wow, you are sooo smart guy. I bet you are a true scholar, yes? Wow. Dumb Fuck.
Title: Your Opinion on Pathway
Post by: Anonymous on January 09, 2004, 12:06:00 AM



YOU BASTARD!