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i'm not going to name any names because this woman i spoke with is interested in working with me on contacting former clients of this
place and also former staff to coroberate my concerns.

because this place is still running and there are people out there who share my concerns about the program, i am not going to say, "the place is
run by (blank) and staff include (blank blank blank) and they get their funding from (blank) and these fuckers need to be shut down and thrown
in jail as early as tommorow for being serial child abusers.

the real purpose of my post was to describe the program and see if the response i got confirmed that this program is 'synanonish'. i'm still gathering
information and contacting former staff and clients to see if they would be willing to share what they know about the place and if they share the same
concerns with me bring their concerns to authorities who will be interested in protecting teenagers from this sort of treatment.

as for travelling back in time to synanon, that is what she told me - that the directors are affiliated with synanon and they go down to california twice a
year to visit people in synanon. thats what she said. she also said that pretty much all of the treatment centers in british columbia use the synanon model
to some degree, but this specific place uses the most extreme form.

what i meant by research was i used my own experience in the organization, wrote it all down in an essay, and checked the treatment methods against other
programs that people on this board and others have gone through to see where this place fits. so their arent any links, and my essay is private except for the
erxcerpt that i added here about the theraputic community.

i sent my older brother an email, and we barely exchange emails. in the subject i put 'i need to talk to someone'

i wrote everything to him. trauma, abuse, manipulation, intimidation. how it made me feel, how it strained our
relationship. how it was the reason i was fucked up for all those years. i read what i wrote and it was horrifying,
but i sent it and he told me to call him the reply.

i called him and he said "thats quite a story. i believe every word of it."

he told me that no matter how strained my relationship to my familly was that there was love there that would never go away.
he is actually a class action lawyer for native residential school victims in canada and he told me that some of his clients
do better forgetting it and others do better talking about it with others. i told him i had met other survivors and had read
what their experiences and found them to be simmilar to mine.

i told him that i had always thought i was the only one who had ever gone through this! for all those years.

but since i started meeting other poeple who have gone through the same thing i have felt stronger. i feel more like
myself, which is a concept which for me is problematic to begin with. i feel lighter, more confident, and looser. i would
have never have been able to contact my brother like that if it wasnt for all the people out there sharing. i feel like
i`ve been wearing an iron mask for years  and now with a little bit of work it will begin to come off.

good night everyone, thanks again.  :cheers:

Hi guys, Karate Man here. This is the place where i was - The Last Door Youth Program.

http://www.lastdoor.org/

also on facebook - http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=last+ ... 6319183..1

I'm wondering if anyone has ever heard of this place? It is in New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada.
Google them and you will get 5 pages of glowing reviews in the media and political endorsements, lol .

i'll give you the breakdown of what they do.

- program is 8 months to a year.
- male youth age 14-18.
- uses the twelve steps of narcotics annonymous as part of their treatment modality. we progress through the steps as we progress through the program.
- group therapy for an hour or two 5 days a week, one narcotics annonymous meeting 7 nights a week.
- group therapy is 'confrontational'. we were made to relate everything sad or bad we have ever gone through to 'break us down' emotionally.
- after being broken down we were 'rebuilt' in group with the twelve steps of NA as our new worldview.
- the people doing the breaking down and building up were graduates of the program. none of them had any medical training. i remember one staff hadnt even graduated from highschool.
- we were pressured into believing we had a disease, that we would die if we ever did drugs, our old friends were dangerous, be wary of people outside of the program, etc.
- not allowed to use the phone at first. phonecalls were allowed later but were monitered (we had a door seperating the listener but they could still hear).
- they promote a 'theraputic community' which basically means that when you finish the program you are pressured to get an apartment near the center and go to NA meetings in the neighborhood.

it reminds me a lot of AARC but there are some differences.

1) there are less kids, there were 9 i believe in our group.
2) the group therapy sessions are insane! screaming, blubbering, barfing, fighting, drolling. really crazy.
3   you would not believe what some of the staff admited to in group therapy. one staff told us when he was 'in his addiction' he met an old man who was lonely and he became the man's sexual companion
to get money for drugs on a regular basis! this same guy used to tell us we could get addicted to orgasms and wanted to know how we felt during orgasm. another staff used to break down over how when he was 'in his addiction' he tried to kill his girlfriend by driving his car into a telephone pole at high speed. and they would always tell us about this stuff and try to pull stories out of us about rape and murder!
4) this is the main difference from AARC - they have a mens program as well, and some of these men are ex-cons or are on parole. when they finish the program at the men's house they get jobs mowing lawns or whatever and they move into apartments close to the center and become part of the 'theraputic community'. what they do after graduating is they go to all of the same NA meetings as the kids in the youth house and the men in the mens house. and the NA meetings are in churches and in every meeting the church is packed with people who have gone through the program. so looking around the church you see all these scumbags and ex-cons and they share these stories about all the horrible things theyve done!  

all of this sounds commical, and it is, but the thing is - this program has got thought reform perfected. major peer pressure, major intimidation, major coercion. strong arm style.

and this place did a number on me. i found it impossible to relate to my peers when i got out. all of the thoughts in my head were 'expectations are pre-mediatated resentments' and that sort of stuff for years. i was convinced that i had a disease. it took me years to come to terms with the fact that i had been brainwashed and more years to deprogram myself into a normal person. i could not understand what had been done to me by the last door and why i was thinking the way i was. i didn't know if i had to spend my life fighting my 'disease' or if i should focus on having a normal life with my peers, who i was trained not to socialize with because they were 'normies' and not addicts. i thought i would never get over it, but i did, and here i am!

So, LD youth program. anyone heard of it?

thats amazing. you've got quite a talent! i would love to see that delivered to aarc's benifactors.

it is (still operating) called "The Last Door" located in new westminster british columbia.

http://www.lastdoor.org/

but, i'd like to keep this thread on-topic: creating an action group for aarc activism. mate, if you
want to ask me anything about the last door or have anything to tell me about them could you PM me?
i'm going to create a thread on them in the next couple of days. cheers.

BACK ON TOPIC: THIS THREAD IS FOR CREATING AN ORGANIZED ACTION GROUP FOR AARC ACTIVISM.

WE NEED:

- PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE IN DEALING WITH THE MEDIA.
- SURVIVORS AND SYMPATHISERS WHO ARE CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN CANADIAN UNIVERSITIES.
- CALGARY RESIDENTS.
- CANADIANS WITH KNOWLEDGE OF ALBERTA POLITICS AND KNOW WHO TO SEND LETTERS TO.

PLEASE PM ME AND LET ME KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN. FACEBOOK GROUP ON THE WAY.