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Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2003, 07:51:00 PM
Anyone remember them?Good people.
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Antigen on July 24, 2003, 12:38:00 PM
If so, my brother married her and raised a son. He's about 25 now.

The disrespect for the possession laws fosters a disrespect for laws and the system in general... On top of this is the distinct impression among the youth that some police may use the marihuana laws to arrest people they don't like for other reasons, whether it be their politics, their hair style or their ethnic background.
                                                                     
Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding

Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: surfdal on July 27, 2003, 05:38:00 PM
i remember the staffer pam as being freckled and very cute and not unkind..hmm..remeber a staff charlie who was a rowdy fairly explosive and devious dude that was the cause of much uproar over time including leaving and something to do with a female staff ..and he was in the alley in a car behind the andrews ave seed trying to get her to escape w/ him..lol all this is very vague but theres been alot of water under the bridge since then.. dont recall mavis or happy was inprisioned in seed ,andrews ave..'71-'72 i believe. from the time they first moved into andrews and i left(in rather a hurry) befor they opened  sr84
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Thom on February 23, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
Yes, Pam married our middle brother. She was the girl next door. I remember Charlie O. He was an interesting person. I paid attention when he was leading raps. I remember Mavis but not Happy.
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2005, 06:30:00 PM
I remember Mavis and Happy.  I really liked both of them.  They were much older than I was at the time.  I guess when I think about it now Mavis kind of reminded me of Lybbi.  She was very tough but seemed to really care about everyone.
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Antigen on February 23, 2005, 07:45:00 PM
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On 2005-02-23 09:20:00, Thom wrote:

"Yes, Pam married our middle brother. She was the girl next door. "


I wonder if Jack ever thanked Jim for that?

JK, Pam was alright. She was almost always good to me, anyway.

If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be -- a Christian.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist



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Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Thom on February 23, 2005, 08:02:00 PM
:grin:
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: rjfro22 on February 24, 2005, 08:22:00 PM
I forgot all about Hap and Mavis . Thanks for bringing up their names, yes they were a marriied couple (I think) and a bit older then  the rest.
They really were wonderful, I can't really remember what they looked liked, Didn't  Hap have a handlebar mustache?   that really goes way back.  Does anyone remember Maureen?, she also had a very young child.
She was incredible. She was from new york.
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2005, 06:40:00 AM
Hap and Mavis were married and now that you mentioned it I do remember that Hap had a handlebar mustache.  Mavis seemed like she was built large and I believe she used to be a bar bouncer before she came in the Seed.  There are very few people I remember from back then but they stood out in my mind.  I also think that Mavis may have put the line in the Seed song that said I'll break your leg.  It was so long ago that it is hard to remember.
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Thom on February 25, 2005, 08:40:00 AM
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On 2005-02-25 03:40:00, Anonymous wrote:

" I also think that Mavis may have put the line in the Seed song that said I'll break your leg.  It was so long ago that it is hard to remember.  "

It was '....your leg, I'll break'....but I can't remember why we were going to do it. Here is what I recall....

The Seed, indeed, is all you need
to stay off the junk and the pills and the weed
you come each day from 10 to 10,
 (later revised to 10 for 10)
and if you screw up then you'll start again.

Junkies and freaks throughout the land
join our family hand in hand,
working together from morning til night,
to help the loser see the light.

Help me out here!
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Antigen on February 25, 2005, 10:09:00 AM
Well it was "If you screw up then your leg I'll break" of course. I remember a guy standing on the side of group w/ crutches and a cast and wondering what he'd done, too.

Such fond, loving memories, eh?

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins; all of them imaginary.
H.L. Mencken, 1923

Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Thom on February 25, 2005, 10:43:00 AM
Well, I don't know, the 'if you screw up' thing was definately before 'then you'll start again' that i remember. There was some other thing associated  with leg breaking.

da da, da da, da da da, da da, and if you doooo, your leg I'll break.

maybe,
The samiches and kool-aid you'll not forsake,
and if you doooo, your leg I'll break.

no, that's not it...maybe something about 'splitting', but it has to rhyme with break!

an attempt to leave, you'll surely not make
and if you doooo, your legey I'll break.

no, that doesn't ring a toilet bowl either.

anyone remember all the verses?

HEY! i'VE BEEN PROMOTED TO 'A REGULAR AROUND HERE'! :scared: [ This Message was edited by: Thom on 2005-02-25 07:47 ]
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: echothis on February 26, 2005, 08:41:00 AM
The Seed indeed is all you need to stay off the pills and the junk and the weed. You come each day from ten till ten and if you can't dig it you'll start again.

Junkies and thieves thru out the land join our family hand in hand working together from morning till night to help the losers see the light.

Old friends or phone calls you can't make and if you do your legs I'll break.

I don't remember anymore of it.    :wave:
This also is not in the right order I'm sure.
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Thom on February 26, 2005, 10:27:00 AM
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On 2005-02-26 05:41:00, echothis wrote:

"The Seed indeed is all you need to stay off the pills and the junk and the weed. You come each day from ten till ten and if you can't dig it you'll start again.

Junkies and thieves thru out the land join our family hand in hand working together from morning till night to help the losers see the light.

Old friends or phone calls you can't make and if you do your legs I'll break.

I don't remember anymore of it.    ::ftard:: ' in stead of
'if you can't dig it ::noway:: 'someone else'  :grin:
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: echothis on February 26, 2005, 12:21:00 PM
The seed indeed is all you need to stay off the pills and the junk and the weed.  You come each day from ten till ten and if you can't dig it you'll start again.

Faith love and honesty will prevail and if you can't dig it you'll go to jail. Old friends or phone calls you can't make and if you do your legs i'll break.  

Junkies and freaks thru out our land join our family hand in hand. Working together from morning till night to help the losers see the light.  :rofl:  :rofl:

Hey did I do it,  is that all?
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: echothis on February 26, 2005, 12:38:00 PM
::flipflop::  ::burger::
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Thom on February 26, 2005, 12:54:00 PM
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On 2005-02-26 09:21:00, echothis wrote:

"The seed indeed is all you need to stay off the pills and the junk and the weed.  You come each day from ten till ten and if you can't dig it you'll start again.

Faith love and honesty will prevail and if you can't dig it you'll go to jail. Old friends or phone calls you can't make and if you do your legs i'll break.  

Junkies and freaks thru out our land join our family hand in hand. Working together from morning till night to help the losers see the light.  :rofl:  :rofl:

Hey did I do it,  is that all?  "
Wow! I had forgotten the 'Faith love and honesty...' line. Thanks!..

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"That's Pot, what else?" (John M*****., Staffer at Andrews in '71..leading raps, with his Boston accent)
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Thom on February 26, 2005, 01:08:00 PM
I remember going to Lybbi's parent's private beach on Hillsboro Mile and doing regular beach stuff. It was accessable from the Hillsboro Light House Coast Guard station (If I remember right)
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: rjfro22 on February 26, 2005, 03:17:00 PM
I remember hearing about that famous beach outing , for some reason or another I didn't make it., it was from the ANDREWS ave house
I believe around 1971. The first time I went to the seed was around 1970 on 3rd ave ?  and I remeber they had this wedding there, I wish I could remember the names of the people that got married, maybe it was a Pam, and I have to say it really moved me, I was about 15 or 16 at the time. that small house had some special moments.
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Ft. Lauderdale on February 26, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
"and if you SCREW UP then you'll start again.
Hey lets get the words right. Or were those the words in '70 & '71?  I wemt there in '72. :grin:
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Thom on February 26, 2005, 04:53:00 PM
Thankyou, Mr. Ft. Lauderdale. I was beginning to wonder if my memory might have been screwed up... :nworthy:
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: echothis on February 26, 2005, 11:21:00 PM
I remember it as being dig it....

I'll try and get my friend who also went to the Seed to tell me about the wedding.  We had moved to Ohio by then.  ::nod::
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: GregFL on February 27, 2005, 03:19:00 AM
Hey everyone, I am in Thailand for another week. Sorry I haven't been around much.

Keep it up, the forum is doing great!
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Cayo Hueso on February 27, 2005, 02:39:00 PM
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On 2005-02-27 00:19:00, GregFL wrote:

"Hey everyone, I am in Thailand for another week.


Damn, must be nice!!!  We miss you though!

Being sleepy can impair someone's ability to do thier job.  People
can sleep at home and come to the job with sleepiness still in their system. The sleepiness can still be there long after the employee has slept. When someone is found to be sleepy on the job, they can claim that they went to sleep the night before.  The only solution to this problem is to ban employees from sleeping.

--Arthur Slabosky

Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Antigen on February 27, 2005, 05:25:00 PM
I told ya'. If we wanna hang out w/ Greg, we'll have to plan on the expat zone in Costa Rica.

Power concedes nothing without a demand. The limit of oppression is determined by the extent of the endurance of the oppressed.
--Frederick Douglas

Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Cayo Hueso on February 27, 2005, 05:45:00 PM
I'm ready if you are!!  A friend of my husband's just finished his 'surf shack' on some property he bought down there.  He loves it, swears he's moving there when he retires.

If you think yourself too wise to involve
yourself in government, you will be governed
by those too foolish to govern.  
--Plato

Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: GregFL on February 27, 2005, 09:14:00 PM
Costa Rica Rocks! That is, all of it except the capitol, San Jose, which is a dump.

Thailand is a buddhist country and is just sooo Coool!


be back next sunday, and then the following week, heading down to Colombia for a week.

talk to you guys later!
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Cayo Hueso on February 28, 2005, 02:48:00 PM
You globetrottin' fool you.  Look forward to you coming back.  

I vote we all plan a huge reunion in Costa Rica.   ::bigsmilebounce::

Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of human freedom.  It is the argument of the tyrant and the creed of the slave.  
-- William Pitt, 1763

Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Ican'tTalktoYou on March 02, 2005, 09:53:00 AM
I was at SR84 in '73....Strange, I don't remember that song at all.  The only song I actually remember singing (I truly hated it) was.... High Hopes?!?
Something about a rubber tree plant and ants and elephants....  I hated that song....
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Thom on March 02, 2005, 12:05:00 PM
I remember that one too. I wasn't crazy about it either...probably because I couldn't grasp the concept of having high hopes at that stage in my life. Just for kicks, I googled it. Here are the lyics as sung by Frank Sinatra.  Writer(s): cahn/van heusen

Next time your found, with your chin on the ground
There's a lot to be learned, so look around

Just what makes that little old ant
Think he?ll move that rubber tree plant
Anyone knows an ant, can?t
Move a rubber tree plant

But he?s got high hopes, he?s got high hopes
He?s got high apple pie, in the sky hopes

So any time your gettin? low
?stead of lettin? go
Just remember that ant
Oops there goes another rubber tree plant

When troubles call, and your back?s to the wall
There a lot to be learned, that wall could fall

Once there was a silly old ram
Thought he?d punch a hole in a dam
No one could make that ram, scram
He kept buttin? that dam

?cause he had high hopes, he had high hopes
He had high apple pie, in the sky hopes

So any time your feelin? bad
?stead of feelin? sad
Just remember that ram
Oops there goes a billion kilowatt dam

All problems just a toy balloon
They?ll be bursted soon
They?re just bound to go pop
Oops there goes another problem kerplop
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: Ican'tTalktoYou on March 03, 2005, 05:16:00 PM
Warning, warning, bad flash back..... It's just as bad as I remembered..
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: TRUCKER on March 03, 2005, 05:20:00 PM
How about" zippidy do da". I remember Robert not having his front teeth in one day and trying to sing this song.It was quite funny.

                   Trucker
Title: Mavis,Happy,Charlie,Pam'71
Post by: GregFL on March 07, 2005, 06:10:00 PM
I had "high Hopes" of getting the hell away from that nuthouse...