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Quote from: "liarsexposed"

Art" all you do is start fights and follow people around and try and cause them trouble .You are the one still living the programs my friend.I have brought good conversation and debate here and when someone joins in like some of my friends who are very good at

Danny
My post in the other forum was not meant to start a fight. Tho,the fight never ended that tweedle dee and tweedle dumb started a year ago. I simply explained how I feel about elan. Its exactly what I wrote about prior. Fornits has become a place that we cannot share our feelings and inner-most thoughts as a result of the scumbags Markly and Sharon.
If you find the word dumb in my post.. please underline and show me. If they took my post as calling someone dumb,that would be on them,as that was not how it was intended.
 
Art" all you do is start fights and follow people around and try and cause them trouble
 
Interesting you post this as not too long ago,it was you who had 200 threads about nothing,except to piss people off. So I would be careful how close to that glass house you are standing.
The BS is nothing more than an attention grab,by a couple trolls who dont even sign in as themselves any more.. and I know why.
Try to have a good day Danny,and stay out of things you know nothing about
Will be good for both of us
the Silliness that IS Mark and Sharon only shows 2 damaged people desperate to do wrong

@Art, hope you can find it possible to connect again with Elan.I think it would be so much more interesting if we all could discuss the events that happened within this story. Lets give it a try. I have been talking to fellow residents while I was away. It has been a long time since I have posted here and as I can see @Art you haven't changed a bit.Trying to conduct any sort of "debate" with an  assclown like you @Art is like trying to screw a gorilla in the ass with no vaseline. Art, damn it, This is something that you should be able to rise above and do the right thing.If you want to discuss issues in the forum then watch your mouth. There is no reason for vulgarity or calling people names. So your argument is that because you felt other people were lying, it was okay for you to do so as well? I'm not interesting in hearing about your motivations, or your attempts to spin your actions by claiming you were "adding balance". I'm just looking for a simple yes or no. Do you lie all the time @Art???...


by liarsexposed »


I didnt say that at all Danny. Why would you think that ?
Pain is inevitable. Suffering is an option.
This forum and many like it,only continue the drama,and feed the suffering of those who participate. Have you not seen the thousands of personal attacks ? Have you not noticed that maybe 4-5 people participate,but hundreds read it ?
Why do you think the hundreds dont participate ?
You dont have to choose a side,to see a real sickness, in those who seek to hurt others. Though from your previous posts its obvious that the meaning behind what I wrote was lost to anger and bile. Im sorry that you are still affected by your experience. There's no shame in needing help and if you do,you should get some. That is NOT to say that I think you need help. Just a broad statement. Thats between you and god.
Fornits does a very poor job of showing off those who have recovered. Always has. Its a one sided version of people's experiences during and after Elan. Everything I have read (mostly) has been very negative,and in sharp contrast to those who actually live life,have a life,and is not stuck in the Diningroom in Poland Springs.
This is another encounter group where a select few have come to hurt others.40-50 kids per house in Poland x's 4 houses. Over 30 years... Do the math... yet only 4-5 people participate here. (not counting the screen names made up by all of you) I have seen no other purpose served here.
Please correct me if I am wrong. I dont think you can.
BTW thanks .. I AM an old man.. but this old man lives life to the fullest. I never signed in as someone else,and the only reason I returned in March of this year was to defend myself from the 2 stooges.
Gotta run as I am playing a benefit for a cancer victim's family in Vernon Hills
Happy Holiday

You just do not get it @Art.. :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:


I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing.

Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.

Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.

Gonna voice my opnion,and hopefully not piss off the masses
I dont see alot of Elan people here. Never really have. I only see the same people, post the same kind of articles, and spending countless hours, creating videos
and websites to make a point that is mute.
Its over. Its been over. Our abusers are mostly dead,and burried. The ones that ARE still alive,have yet to face their maker. But they will,and they will all get what they have comin to them
Either you get better,or you dont. YES Elan was horrible. Everything that I have read,is the truth,(mostly)and its terrible. I lived it too
But .........
Its 30 years ago today for me since I left that hell hole. I suffered just like anyone else. Maybe not as much as others,maybe more than some. But I found that at some point,I had to make changes. It was no longer about Elan,and it was my responsibility to make a life for myself.
Unfortunately I still have some nightmares once in a great while. But really,the only time I think about Elan, is when I read the info on the internet. In my 30 years of reading,and talking to people,I have yet to read something new. Unless of course you count the Mark and Sharon Show.
If you are still suffering,and Elan is to blame,I suggest you get some help. PTSD is a real illness and treatable.
But if you continue to live in the past,you have nothing to look forward to. I cant speak for everyone,but MY life is pretty good. Sure I could have more money,bigger house,more toys etc.. But I feel blessed,and am grateful I am not eating Eggplant Parm on Wed nights
To this day,I will not eat Eggplant
Happy Holidays and God Bless You


What are you trying to say Old Man,?? We aren't supposed to feel some pain from our program experiences.?


I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing.

Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.

Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive

I would be dead without programs.

Programs are for your aid not ridicule.

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Daniel Gauss
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Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Fornits
2.1 Creepypasta
3 Group Therapy Topics
4 Reaction
5 The tears start rolling in
6 Whooter hears a Who
7 See Also
8 External Links
Background

Daniel H. Gauss is a shell of a man, a failure as a father, and the cuckolded husband of Victoria A. Gauss (Vicki_Chic), a groupie who travels with his money. He spends his days working his ass off for a loving wife, in the hopes that he will support a loving family for his daughter. Sadly, he is on the road most of the time. Sadder still, so is the mother!


Wonder who she's buying this for?


Pictured: A very plastic Wife. Not pictured: Husband. Hmm...
Once upon a time, mommy dearest decided it would be a perfectly wonderful idea to send her daughter to a boarding school where she will be kept isolated from all contact with friends and extended family for at least nine months, getting her out of the house so mom and dad can enjoy some quality time together. Or, more likely, apart. Nevertheless, with the kid out of the house, she's no longer forced to worry that her child will grow up like she does, forced to luck out by marrying into money, or in some other way fucking for it, she could then spend the rest of her years fucking shitty band members of a shitty band, and never ever putting out for Daniel. What did she get that GyneFlex for, anyway?
Fornits

All this would have gone just swimmingly had the girl not found Fornits, starting a huge white knight stampede and provoking lulz. You know you're going to have nothing but good, wholesome family fun when the first reply is from Pile of Dead Kids.
As it turns out, the "treatment center" they intend to send their daughter is a torture chamber run by sick fucks (Hmm, who couldn't have guessed that from the whole "nine months in isolation" bit?) which will cost him thousands of dollars a month and has bogus accreditation.
However, the very slimmest glimmer of hope that he can have his daughter 'fixed' despite his shitty non-parenting, as well as the non-parenting and shitty example setting of the mother, motivated both to desperately rationalize their horrible decision. The fact that she can be passed off and thus out of sight, out of mind, and someone else can take the blame for her not being a perfect middle class white girl might have factored in as well, but who knows? If only Vicki had an abortion instead, amirite?
Regardless, the girl did her homework, grabbed a pseudonym, found out what she was in for, and hilarity ensued.
Creepypasta
A highly helpful individual on fornits thought it would be useful to warn poor "Morgan" about what the program had in store, and thought this would somehow convince the parents into not sending her off:
I believe that the best choice for this thread will be to advice Morgan how to survive
the program.

When she arrives she will be taken to the campus we have not been able to locate, once
her parents have left. It is located in the woods. They have about 50 girls in the
program and half of them are in the woods. It is here they will break her.

According to survivors on Myspace the staff is 18 year olds just out of the high school
hired for their muscles. They are not able to give therapy, but they are good at breaking
people down because giving such a young inexperienced person power to control the lives
of others will result in abuse of power.

How can Morgan avoid a beating? How can we prepare her for the possibility of a haircut,
 fingering of her private parts and the loss of rings, earrings, necklaces and her
private clothes? How can we advice her to fake a breaking and confess something which
would satisfy the counselor coming around once per month?

It is the time now until the program, which is important. It is very important that her
 friends at school are ready to air memorial groups on community networks as if she has
 died the minute she goes to the program. It is important that she prepare herself by
not acting out but to make her mentally ready to go to prison, so she has a strategy
once she is forced to surrender herself at the academy.

Her parents will never know what has taken place in the wood. They have been a tour of
 the campus for the good, but broken girls and it is a totally other environment, so
she should prepare herself for something her parents would not believe the program has.

It is a difficult task, but here on the board we have survivors. Please give her some
good advice, so she can survive with as few scars as possible. According to the
survivors on Myspace the program is a normal program which does not prepare the
graduates for life, so she will have to work hard to catch up once she will be released.
Group Therapy Topics

A big part of 'therapy' in programs is forcing everyone to admit to every embarrassing, humiliating, personal, dangerous, threatening or sensitive thought, secret or fantasy - in a group setting! This includes but is by no means limited to phobias, traumas from the past, and the full litany of sexual thoughts. When these are exhausted, they are then generally encouraged to make up new ones, to prove they are working the program. Forcing teenage girls to discuss sexual details? Who came up with this?
Naturally, this means ED must compile the first list of things a 15 year old girl would have to admit to, or what they could be coerced into making up. For best effect, read this in your mind with the voice of a terrified teenage girl:
I used my fingers.
I humped things.
I use the faucet/showerhead.
I let the dog lick me.
I used sharpies.
I kissed a boy.
I kissed a girl (and I liked it!)
I gave a bj.
I ate a girl.
I ate ass.
I had penetrative vaginal sex.
I had penetrative anal sex.
I gave sex with a strapon.
I sold my body for money, like my mom!
I fucked a dog.
I fucked my mom, dad, dog, and the president so I could get another hit of coke while living on the street because I hadn't been saved by the program yet.
I'm sure the average EDiot could figure out where it goes from here, and how Morgan's parents feel this will surely help their child get a solid foundation to enter college at 18 without any emotional or academic problems at all! Straight INC was very fond of having the group facilitator announce they had a drug problem which made them fuck a dog; all the kids had to then make up such a story about how they fucked dogs while high. One can only imagine how far we've progressed in the past thirty years!
With any luck, she'll quickly progress in the program and then can move on to other more pressing subjects, such as coping with being raised by idiots, being stuck in a fucked up program in the wilderness, and being on ED.
Reaction

At this juncture, any reasonable man with a functioning pair of testicles would have said that he would not pay half his paycheck to send his daughter to be sexually probed, instead telling his wife where to go and enjoying a sammich.
Daniel did not.
 
“     
shit, been sleeping [on the couch] for years
     „
 
—Daniel Gauss, admitting his lack of manhood
 
“     
I'm still not in 100% agreement we need ti spend a kings ransome and send Morgan away but vicki, being a highly intuitive person has put it out to her spirit guides and god in general
     „
 
—Yes, because that's what you should entrust your daughter's life to. Your wife's spirit guides.
A man chooses. A slave obeys.
The tears start rolling in



Oh dear god this didn't take long at all
As can be expected, the denizens of fornits sense butthurt - and the light of day, for that matter - and immediately begin a campaign of tears to avoid further purification by lulz.
Not soon thereafter, fornits poster SUCK IT decided it would be a good idea to try to put a cork on this big bottle of lulz. Naturally, reversion and vandalism is the last thing that will EVER work on ED, and after getting a warm hellogoodbye, the fag got banned for being an unfunny loser.


LOL, Flex Wheeler tries to become a tough guy


Shitstorm in progress
Upon his timely banning, gigantic faggot Flex Wheeler decided to threaten an EDiot on fornits in some attempt to stop the lulz or the spread of hilarity and general ownage. Naturally, here at ED, we laugh at internet tough guys and call them stupid, fuck their mom and then tell them how bad her cunt smells - and how loose it is.
IF ONLY SHE HAD GYNEFLEX. IF ONLY BILLY MAYS COULD STILL SELL THEM. WHO KNOWS? MAYBE HE COULD SPEAK TO THE SPIRIT GUIDES AND TELL THEM TO QUIT BEING STUPID NIGGERS! Flex really loves the Gausses, or, is in fact one of them in disguise. Anonymous could not be reached for comment, but approves the attempt made at hiding who he is.
Whooter hears a Who

  :jawdrop:  :jawdrop:  :jawdrop:   Busybody John Reuben, who is also a general fucktard, dickless loser and spineless big-mouth better known as Whooter (formerly "the who") caught wind of an attempt at keeping a kid from a program, and more importantly, sweet sweet money from his coffers, and stepped in as only a true man of genius could.


oh my god you can't wish for better lulz


Whooter tries to dox, and e-psych...


...but fails.


Whooter obviously has full say over who goes to e-jail.


Whooter is a very prolific troll. This makes him about average for Fornits.
Now, this is far from the only genius thing Johnny has done in recent memory - or for that matter, on fornits at all. Nevertheless, it's better to see for yourself. :beat:  :beat:  :beat:
See Also

My Tiny Dick
Sue Scheff
Josef Fritzl
Dying Alone
Cuckold
BDSM
Masochism
Fetish
Butthurt
External Links

The thread that started the shitstorm
Cunt's myspace
Cunt's facebook
Cunt's photobucket
The program
Category: People



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Quote from: "Shadyacres"

Quote from: "Whooter"

Quote from: "Shadyacres"

Whooter, everybody lies.  What is wrong with you?  I lie myself if people are not listening to me or I am trying to get peoples attention on a topic.  It doesnt mean that I lie about everything.

Shady, I understand this.  But the problem is how can the readers differentiate between your lies and the truth.  How do we know what is real or not?  This is the trouble that posters like yourself pose to us readers.  What we suppose to believe?

If you are being paid to do this, you are being paid too much.  Do you see what I mean?

If someone is paying you to deceive the readers here on fornits you are doing a good job and should ask them for a raise.  Do you see what I mean?



You are a fraud and a plant Whooter , AKA John Reuben. Just man up and take your lumps, how long do you think people will go with out total confrontation of your bull-crap here, John.Your not liked nor respected, and have been found to be, an antagonistic influence here. How and were do gather the right to talk about treatment. If your shit was so together, you would have never been in treatment yourself.

You sound like the patient who told the Dr, I am not  crazy, in-spite of the fact you were already institutionalized.Stand up for the truth John not your illusions and dilutions.We all see your sickness and need for attention.

Quote from: "Froderik"

^^ :feedtrolls:  ^^

He has been MIA for awhile now. I thought he would come back to talk to his brother. WTF?

 If he was real I would respond,but say the least her is not. I have no Brother. My last sentence refers to Whooters frustration sometimes with malicious posters who blatantly beat up other posters they see as weaker. Short comings: (character flaws (peccadilloes) slight nuance of a larger flaw) Whooter sometimes shows these nuances in his defense, to a post. Shit...what fuckin' bullshit...such a waste of valuable time... Trying to conduct any sort of "debate" with these assclowns is like trying to screw a gorilla in the ass with no vaseline. That is all. This is your usual response to any argument you feel that is out of your control. Go play.I have a life go find your own. Danny has come out of hiding as you call it, :peace:  :peace:



 I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing.

Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.

Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.

 

You Will All Beleive And Understand My Manifesto
by DannyB ll »

My Manifesto

My name is Daniel Bennison, I was in Elan from 6/75 till 1/77 as a resident and a employee from 1/77 till 11/78.

I bring this up because of past and recent events and interactions with other residents. Guys this will be the last post I do to defend really (the indefensible) the abuse committed while I was affiliated with Elan. Whooter has informed me that he is writing a book and that I am in it on Chap. 5 because of abuses on committed at Elan while as a employee. This was my response to him after being told this,"I want you to quote this in your book. I did not say I did not abuse kids because I did as a resident and a employee. As a resident I fought in the ring for the house, screamed at folks during GM's, during a haircut, encounter groups and screamed at folks shot down while walking the house.As a employee I committed all of the abuse I mentioned above plus directed residents to verbally assault and demean residents. Did I physically abuse people, ? Yes. Now does this make me a better person then the next employee,? Yes it really does. All I am doing here is stating a fact."John has also taken the liberties of threatening me with exposer concerning accusations of abuse and that I had committed while staff, with 5 or more witnesses to these incidents.I don't think that you folks really want a all out war of words on this site but on the other hand I can see where it is constructive to have a resident call out a staff member of Elan who posts here, on supposed abuses. I don't mind that a book is being written about Elan and the abuses Staff committed. Just remember though I will not apologize to anyone for any abuses I did commit.There was enough bullshit that happened from 75-78 for me to have given a lifetime of nightmares to others, without anyone making me do something I truly don't mean. John says I was Staff/Ass.Director (E-7). I was staff/Ass.Director E-7 from 2/78 till 8/78, I transferred to a different position/different house till 11/78. I am curious as to how John knows I arrived at E-7 in 1978. Anyway I post here and I am open to conversation, you would think that John would use my information to his advantage, for he is also an abuser of others. there are also other staff and Ass. directors who have information that would help in exposing Elan, John and Felice are both frauds, As far as the dragging incident I am not nor will I be ashamed at programs and the courses it takes, I know that the once Fat Girl thanks me now. I will help any of you lose wight like here just call me,Now first off Felice is very well prepared for this sort of thing because she has been haunting this sites for over 10 years. The only thing one has to do is ask Felice about her family sibling, parents and children and you can see the abuse. Far after she left Elan and still present today. I will not get into specifics right now only to say her garbage is still going on. This is of her own making though she will blame everyone else a common trait of Art and herself. Then pick on other residents if their still not satisfied. Felice you are still very sick, you hang out with Art and you harass people. A nother side of Felice is her brilliance with Art, she is masterful, she also has great ability with filming herself in the wild, and last her passion is trolling survivor sites, Felice stay with your strengths and stop with the dirt business it is unbecoming of you, Felice is a much more horrible woman then any of us would dream of,That's right Felice and your still an idiot and maybe if you had not posted your crap, I would let you satisfy me and get me into the mood lady friend, you and I would be alright, but no you had to stoop to a disgusting level. So you keep posting away to prove your point. As far as I'm concerned you have no class what so ever. You call yourself a woman, please. Run to Art.

And "Anne" I list you with them, your someone who know nothing about programs and Elan.

As far as the car dragging incident, I did plenty of shit in the program that I don't regret now. Hell yes! You may already know this but Straight took the mutual- abuse thing to another level. A good portion of each day was spent abusing each other in group in one form or another. Virtually everyone there did shit to somebody else that they don't regret it now. I understand how people got caught up in that shit at Elan but I don't understand the why the car incident is such a big deal. You really don't upset me about it at all. I mean, I feel no guilty about poking people in the back, helping restrain people and confronting people. When I had dragged that girl behind a car, I held my head with pride and I would do everything I could keep helping people in programs. I would oppose programs that don't have some kind of abuses as part of the atonement for those sins of the residents, towards their family's and friends. I did't care then and I don't care now,it's the past, and I did what I had to do, and would gladly do it ,.


If It Wasn't For Programs, I Would Be Dead .

Danny Has Spoken And Shared The Love.

I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. I live for it.

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing. But I know more than All.

Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.I have my own space.

Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive. We all need programs of some kind..

THIS THREAD is going to be one of those great ones. I can tell.

 :notworthy:

 

You Will All Beleive And Understand My Manifesto
by DannyB ll »
My Manifesto

My name is Daniel Bennison, I was in Elan from 6/75 till 1/77 as a resident and a employee from 1/77 till 11/78.

I bring this up because of past and recent events and interactions with other residents. Guys this will be the last post I do to defend really (the indefensible) the abuse committed while I was affiliated with Elan. Whooter has informed me that he is writing a book and that I am in it on Chap. 5 because of abuses on committed at Elan while as a employee. This was my response to him after being told this,"I want you to quote this in your book. I did not say I did not abuse kids because I did as a resident and a employee. As a resident I fought in the ring for the house, screamed at folks during GM's, during a haircut, encounter groups and screamed at folks shot down while walking the house.As a employee I committed all of the abuse I mentioned above plus directed residents to verbally assault and demean residents. Did I physically abuse people, ? Yes. Now does this make me a better person then the next employee,? Yes it really does. All I am doing here is stating a fact."John has also taken the liberties of threatening me with exposer concerning accusations of abuse and that I had committed while staff, with 5 or more witnesses to these incidents.I don't think that you folks really want a all out war of words on this site but on the other hand I can see where it is constructive to have a resident call out a staff member of Elan who posts here, on supposed abuses. I don't mind that a book is being written about Elan and the abuses Staff committed. Just remember though I will not apologize to anyone for any abuses I did commit.There was enough bullshit that happened from 75-78 for me to have given a lifetime of nightmares to others, without anyone making me do something I truly don't mean. John says I was Staff/Ass.Director (E-7). I was staff/Ass.Director E-7 from 2/78 till 8/78, I transferred to a different position/different house till 11/78. I am curious as to how John knows I arrived at E-7 in 1978. Anyway I post here and I am open to conversation, you would think that John would use my information to his advantage, for he is also an abuser of others. there are also other staff and Ass. directors who have information that would help in exposing Elan, John and Felice are both frauds, As far as the dragging incident I am not nor will I be ashamed at programs and the courses it takes, I know that the once Fat Girl thanks me now. I will help any of you lose wight like here just call me,Now first off Felice is very well prepared for this sort of thing because she has been haunting this sites for over 10 years. The only thing one has to do is ask Felice about her family sibling, parents and children and you can see the abuse. Far after she left Elan and still present today. I will not get into specifics right now only to say her garbage is still going on. This is of her own making though she will blame everyone else a common trait of Art and herself. Then pick on other residents if their still not satisfied. Felice you are still very sick, you hang out with Art and you harass people. A nother side of Felice is her brilliance with Art, she is masterful, she also has great ability with filming herself in the wild, and last her passion is trolling survivor sites, Felice stay with your strengths and stop with the dirt business it is unbecoming of you, Felice is a much more horrible woman then any of us would dream of,That's right Felice and your still an idiot and maybe if you had not posted your crap, I would let you satisfy me and get me into the mood lady friend, you and I would be alright, but no you had to stoop to a disgusting level. So you keep posting away to prove your point. As far as I'm concerned you have no class what so ever. You call yourself a woman, please. Run to Art.

And "Anne" I list you with them, your someone who know nothing about programs and Elan.


As far as the car dragging incident, I did plenty of shit in the program that I don't regret now. Hell yes! You may already know this but Straight took the mutual- abuse thing to another level. A good portion of each day was spent abusing each other in group in one form or another. Virtually everyone there did shit to somebody else that they don't regret it now. I understand how people got caught up in that shit at Elan but I don't understand the why the car incident is such a big deal. You really don't upset me about it at all. I mean, I feel no guilty about poking people in the back, helping restrain people and confronting people. When I had dragged that girl behind a car, I held my head with pride and I would do everything I could keep helping people in programs. I would oppose programs that don't have some kind of abuses as part of the atonement for those sins of the residents, towards their family's and friends. I did't care then and I don't care now,it's the past, and I did what I had to do, and would gladly do it ,.



If It Wasn't For Programs, I Would Be Dead .




Danny Has Spoken And Shared The Love.



I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. I live for it.

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing. But I know more than All.

Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.I have my own space.

Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive. We all need programs of some kind..