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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: LGATs - Large Group Awareness Training
« on: January 22, 2011, 03:06:05 AM »
LGAT

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" The lifeboat experience was very hard for me. I would never wish for anyone in my peer group to die. This experience made me very sad. I would never want to say goodbye to friends if I were dying. I did not like to sort out in my head whether people should die or not. I have a special compassion for people. I don't believe that anyone should have to die. When I had to say goodbye to people like my grandmothers, sister, brother, friends, and put a rose on my mother's grave and one on my father's grave, it shows how much I love people. I was also thinking about Shiela's little girl when I went around to her, I don't like thinking like that at all. I began to think that when the boat was drowning it is was my turn to go to sleep and wonder if my mother felt this way when she died. I now understand her, I think just from experiencing this exercise. This exercise is a very important lesson because it teaches me that I have to tell people how much I love them. I felt small when I was done sharing for one minute why I think I should live. Because I kept on babbling the same thing over a few times. There should have been more reasons why I should live - why I felt small."

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: CEDU lifeboat
« on: January 05, 2011, 09:00:20 AM »
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The I Want to Live propheet

Pillow Pounding   Students are separated into groups of 5 or 6. One at a time each student had to be up on their hands and knees with the rest of their group surrounding them in a circle. The rest of the group pushed down on their back while the student had to push to stay up. Then they placed a pillow in front of them and the student had to repeatedly "pound" the pillow.

I remember who put weight on my back 17 years later.  What are children supposed to do because they cannot split?  There were people so psychologically damaged (myself) before going to RMA, that I was susceptible to brainwashing.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part III (The Aplogy)
« on: November 10, 2010, 10:39:04 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "lifeboat"
Was role play during MBA "workshops" used as thought reform Whooter?

I have no idea, I am not familiar with the model that they used.



...

The use a CEDU type model.  MBA was investigated for many things.  One of them being where a girl had to "role play" something sexual in nature.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part III (The Aplogy)
« on: November 10, 2010, 10:30:56 PM »
Was role play during MBA "workshops" used as thought reform Whooter?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part III (The Aplogy)
« on: November 10, 2010, 10:15:39 PM »

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: CEDU lifeboat
« on: November 09, 2010, 05:42:11 PM »
http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title ... %28CEDU%29


The Funeral    

This is a follow-up to the lifeboat exercise, and is done the next day. It begins by the staff telling the students that the lifeboat sunk, so everyone drowned. The participants are then required to write their own epitaph, and read it in front of the group. After the student finishes, they go and lay on their backs on the floor. When everyone is prone, students are subjected to guided imagery that they are getting buried. This exercise in the 70s also involved the students getting covered in comforters, simulating dirt being thrown on top of them. However, too many students were panicking and vomiting, so that practice was abolished. During the guided imagery part, staff will occasionally call out names of people who have died that individuals in the peer group knew. The staff then states that the students may sit up when, and only when, they are ready to get on with their life.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: CEDU lifeboat
« on: November 09, 2010, 05:13:11 AM »
The funeral

This was a very hard experience for me.  I could never imagine seeing my friends mourning for me the way that I saw them from outside the casket.  I started to think about my brother, sister, when I was watching my friends walk away from me.  Reading the epitat sucks to read because I had to write about how other people saw me.  Reading that made me really sad when I started reading about my grandma and the fun we used to have when I was swimming in her pool.  I was very sad when I read last messages.  Some of my best friends were on there.  Reading off the last statements made me really sad in general.  I some tears in peoples eyes that were my good friends.  I saw my cousin ***** really hurting, I saw my best friends Megan, Am****a and Alex very sad.  I saw my brother and sister at the funeral and that made me really sad because they are the only two left out of my family.  My sister was saying, "My favorite big brother died" and I got really sad when I thought about about how my brother would be screwed with.  He has seen quite a bit in his own life.  I also imagine that the casket was right next to my moms and we were talking.  I thought about her allot in the Summit workshop.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: CEDU lifeboat
« on: November 08, 2010, 04:22:38 PM »
Quote from: "Inculcated"
Understood and THX for the answer. What other kinds of characters were there? Were they assigned or selected?
Additionally: what was their stated purpose of the Winnie the pooh thing?

- Indiana Jones
- Peter pan
- Cnderalla

They were assigned

The purpose of Winnie the poo was to "role play" when I was angry.  I could "take a look at myself."

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: CEDU lifeboat
« on: November 08, 2010, 02:10:42 PM »
Quote from: "Inculcated"
No disrespect intended hereā€¦but, what the fuck?! Is this ^ notes from the script for a CEDU psychodrama?
I have to ask because it reads like some ritualized seriously demented pedo grooming thing.

People dressed up as characters in the Summit workshop.  The notes were what was written in my summit notebook.  It was easier for me to write it that way in my notebook.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: CEDU lifeboat
« on: November 08, 2010, 01:27:21 PM »
The costume party - notes

Winnie the poo  

Boys bathroom
Gentle and Loving Bear
Brings a home made gift for everyone

Explosive bear
Big belly, hair, Bear ears
Honey pot
Gentle and loving

Anyone who says "no" I explode, and explode all over them for 10 seconds.  I then go pout in corner and says "nobody loves me."

Bear tail
Stuff belly with pillow, arms and legs
Wears shirt that says "poos honey pot"
Wants to share honey with every one

No private areas
No old lodge, Emerson, farm
No one can know what's going on

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Why do Survivors need to Lie?
« on: October 29, 2010, 01:39:53 PM »
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31368&start=0

CEDU lifeboat

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The lifeboat experience was very hard for me.  I would never wish for anyone in my peer group to die.  This experience made me very sad.  I would never want to say goodbye to friends if I were dying.  I did not like to sort out in my head whether people should die or not.  I have a special compassion for people.  I don't believe that anyone should have to die.  When I had to say goodbye to people like my grandmothers, sister, brother, friends, and put a rose on my mother's grave and one on my father's grave, it shows how much  I love people.  I was also thinking about Shiela's little girl when I went around to her, I don't like thinking like that at all.  I began to think that when the boat was drowning it is was my turn to go to sleep and wonder if my mother felt this way when she died.  I now understand her, I think just from experiencing this exercise.  This exercise is a very important lesson because it teaches me that I have to tell people how much I love them.  I felt small when I was done sharing for one minute why I think I should live.  Because I kept on babbling the same thing over a few times.  There should have been more reasons why I should live - why I felt small.

If a person explains this to an outsider, people think they're crazy and lying.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: CEDU lifeboat
« on: October 15, 2010, 03:55:46 PM »
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The "Summit Workshop" writing assignments

How I cast you die votes every day
25 times I was denied love
25 times I failed to give love to others
2 pages - The importance of love in my life
2 pages on my contract "I am a gentle and accepting man"
1 page about "Rocking experience"
1 page - I slap people away everyday"
The junkyard
Broken agreements

Other writing assignments

"Dear mom and Dad"
- Example:  I want to forgive you for *****
Importance of agreements in my life
The funeral
The stretch

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: CEDU lifeboat
« on: October 13, 2010, 05:39:39 PM »
The "Summit Workshop" writing assignments

How I cast you die votes every day
25 times I was denied love
25 times I failed to give love to others
2 pages - The importance of love in my life
2 pages on my contract "I am a gentle and accepting man"
1 page about "Rocking experience"
1 page - I slap people away everyday"
The junkyard
Broken agreements

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: CEDU lifeboat
« on: October 10, 2010, 04:36:33 PM »
Quote from: "lifeboat"
The lifeboat experience was very hard for me.  I would never wish for anyone in my peer group to die.  This experience made me very sad.  I would never want to say goodbye to friends if I were dying.  I did not like to sort out in my head whether people should die or not.  I have a special compassion for people.  I don't believe that anyone should have to die.  When I had to say goodbye to people like my grandmothers, sister, brother, friends, and put a rose on my mother's grave and one on my father's grave, it shows how much  I love people.  I was also thinking about Shiela's little girl when I went around to her, I don't like thinking like that at all.  I began to think that when the boat was drowning it is was my turn to go to sleep and wonder if my mother felt this way when she died.  I now understand her, I think just from experiencing this exercise.  This exercise is a very important lesson because it teaches me that I have to tell people how much I love them.  I felt small when I was done sharing for one minute why I think I should live.  Because I kept on babbling the same thing over a few times.  There should have been more reasons why I should live - why I felt small.


http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/for ... t_workshop - The summit workshop - The life boat +

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