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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: seamus on January 17, 2011, 12:54:47 PM
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Any body remember this cat.........What did he have to do with str8?......
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the name is familiar. Was he associated with the Springfield VA program ?? Was he one a the sort of knights templar of the $tr8 society, if yu get my meaning ?? :poison: An established member of the broader society playing the role of a Cromwellian protectorate and overseer of $tr8 Inc. A member of the Board of Directors or somethin... Thats my hunch. I can remember his face somehow. Didn't he have thick dark hair ?? Or am I just imagining everything again ??... :rofl:... :- ... ??...
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Any body remember this cat.........What did he have to do with str8?......
He was a pediatrician in St. Petersburg, became Clinical Director at Straight, Inc. for a while, later possibly using that position to springboard his way into a drug policy advisor position for President Reagan. He may have also had something to do with AARC.
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So would anybody venture a guess as to if he knew Robert DuPont or not?
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So would anybody venture a guess as to if he knew Robert DuPont or not?
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/192/4240/647.long (http://www.sciencemag.org/content/192/4240/647.long)
I googled both their names and this article came up but it seems to cost $15 to read it...
Here's the free Abstract:
Science 14 May 1976:
Vol. 192 no. 4240 pp. 647-649
DOI: 10.1126/science.192.4240.647
Marihuana: A Conversation with NIDA's Robert L. DuPont (http://http://www.sciencemag.org/content/192/4240/647.abstract)
THOMAS H. MAUGH II
ABSTRACT
Robert L. DuPont, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), made headlines recently when he became one of the first Administration officials publicly to recommend a liberalization of marihuana laws. The occasion was a press conference accompanying the release of Marihuana and Health, NIDA's fifth annual report to the Congress on marihuana research. Recently, Science talked with DuPont and asked him to elaborate on those views.
DuPont, a 40-year-old Harvard M.D., served as Director of the District of Columbia's Narcotics Treatment Administration from 1970 to 1973, where he conducted a comprehensive program for treatment of heroin addiction. In June 1973, Richard Nixon appointed him director of the White House Special Action Office for Drug Abuse Prevention. He held that position until the office was terminated on 30 June 1975. He has been director of NIDA since September 1973.[/list]
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Oh boy here we go...a DRUG CZAR convention...all on DVD....
http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/cesarfax/vol15/15-48.pdf (http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/cesarfax/vol15/15-48.pdf)
Fwiw, Drug Czar Barry R. McCaffrey (noted below in the lineup of Drug Czars in atendance) is or was employed by CRC Health Group, which owns Aspen Education Group.
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CESAR FAX
A Weekly FAX from the Center for Substance Abuse Research
University of Maryland, College Park
December 4, 2006 Vol. 15, Issue 48
2006 Drug Czar Conference: A Reflection on Three and a Half Decades of National Drug Policy (http://http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/cesarfax/vol15/15-48.pdf)
By Robert DuPont, Institute for Behavior and Health
On June 17th, 2006, the 35th anniversary of President Nixon's appointment of the first White House Drug Czar, CESAR and the non-profit Institute for Behavior and Health sponsored a Drug Czar Conference at the University of Maryland. The one-day meeting of academics and policy experts featured seven* of the eleven men who have served as heads of the White House drug abuse prevention office, each of whom were given time to describe the major events of their appointment and their current thinking about the nation’s drug policy. The panels of Czars were creatively moderated, promoting lively discussions within the 50-person group. While it is not possible to fully summarize the wide ranging and varied contributions made by the former Czars and others at the meeting, following are some major themes that emerged. The unedited proceedings of the full day are available on DVD (see box below for ordering information).
- All of the speakers appeared to support a policy of balancing a law enforcement approach to drug abuse (supply reduction) with a commitment to treatment, prevention, and research (demand reduction). There was an active interest in finding ways to makeboth sides of the policy equation work better together.
- There was no enthusiasm at the meeting for legalizing drugs as apolicy option despite the incessant media attention to this "alternative" drug abuse prevention policy option.
- There was a general sense that the national policies that have been pursued during the past 35 years have succeeded in containing illegal drug use to levels far lower than those of alcohol and tobacco use, despite the biological attractiveness of many of these drugs.
- However, there was no self-satisfied sense that the nation had "won" the war on drugs. None of the speakers were entirely happy with all the national drug policies during this extended period of time, and many speakers offered suggestions for ways to improve national drug abuse prevention policies.
The level of civility and mutual respect at the meeting was striking given the often inflamed attitudes that drug policy can evoke. Many new ideas were proposed to improve on what was generally seen as a strong beginning in dealing with the modern drug abuse epidemic, which everyone at the meeting assumed would be an enduring and significant part of the national health and safety agendas for decades to come.
*Drug Czars in attendance: Peter Bourne, Lee Brown, Lee I. Dogoloff, Robert L. DuPont, Jerome H. Jaffe, Donald Ian MacDonald, and Barry R. McCaffrey. Moderators/Panelists: John Ball, Peter Bensinger, David Courtwright, Mark Kleiman, David Musto, Sally Satel, J. Michael Walsh, and Eric D. Wish.
Drug Czar Meeting DVD Now Available
The unedited 6 DVD set of the 2006 Drug Czar meeting is now available for $95, including shipping. Please email http://www.cesar.umd.edu (http://www.cesar.umd.edu)) for ordering information.[/list]
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The Governor's Office of Crime Control and Prevention funded this project under grant BJAG 2005-1206. All points of view in this document are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the official position of any State agency.
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Is there perchance a link for the just above post, dragonfly? Thanks!
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thanks Ursus for printing out the whole thing. I copied and pasted which I have learned to do in the last two weeks, but it would not let me post...a screen came up saying improper stlye or font or something....
You're welcome! Not your fault re. not being able to post it. There was some "embedded script" or similar in the latter half which would not copy properly. I ended up having to transcribe that part.
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Ah yes, Dr. Mac. He was my doc when I was a kid and his son was my newcomer. He treated me well when I was a kid. Not sure where his downfall was. I am still suprised he drank so much of the kool aid and is such a supporter. My mom still stays in touch with them. He should also go down and be put in jail for his role in the straight thing.
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Yeah, and I was thinkin somthin similar about Dr Schwartz, who put me in the program, literally talked to my folks and put me in the program, $tr8 inc.
And when I was near the end a my "program", "Dr". Schwartz ran into me in the parking lot of the loading dock at $tr8, Springfield, VA,(the Greater Washington, D.C. Program) and said something to me along the lines a "I was gonna make it after-all" That was his ego talkin. ..
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Carry on...
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MacDonald is mentioned in this excerpt from Wes's webpage on 'Straight and Medical Research (http://http://thestraights.net/people/medical-doctors/medical-research.htm)':
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...Like attorneys and politicians, medical doctors are special recruitment targets for Straight. Especially pediatricians. Consider, for example a Clearwater, Florida pediatrician named Don Ian Macdonald. In 1979 he sent his 15 year-old son Andy across the bay to Straight in Saint Petersburg. Dr. Macdonald went on to head Straight's medical research program. But before we discuss him you have to understand his teacher—Dr. George Ross. And before you can understand Dr. Ross you have to know about Helen Petermann.
Maybe George Ross had narrowly dodged three bullets, but three years later he attended a White House meeting with Dr. Donald Ian Macdonald as part of the White House Conference for a Drug Free America.
You recall that Macdonald, a Clearwater pediatrician, who placed his 15 year-old son, Andy, in Straight-Saint Pete? When Dr. Macdonald placed his boy in Straight in 1979, after learning that Andy's "drug of choice was marijuana", he became a natural target for Straight. Not only was he a pediatrician with a kid in trouble but his wife Bobbie was active in Pinellas County Republican politics and even served on the Indian Rocks Beach City Commission. In 1988 she told a reporter for the Lexington Herald-Leader that Andy owed his life to Straight and added, "and he knows it." When Macdonald wrote an article on drug abuse for NIDA in 1981, he referenced Miller Newton. In 1982 Macdonald served with Robert DuPont on NIDA's Workgroup on Marijuana Abuse in Adolescence. [Robert DuPont had been the founding director of NIDA, the second White House Drug Czar and a paid Straight consultant.]
In 1982 Dr. Macdonald became Straight's National Research Director. In 1984 he authored the book Adolescent Drug and Alcohol Abuse which pushed five juvenile drug rehab program models. One of those programs was Straight, Inc. On page 16 he shows those four silly diagrams of druggie mood swings that he got from Miller Newton—the same charts that all Straight parents get bombarded with when they go through the "Six New Parent Raps" produced by Dr. Newton. In 1984 he became director of the Alcohol, Drug Abuse and Mental Health Administration. In 1985 he was appointed acting assistant secretary of the Health and Human Services Department. And in 1987 Dr. Donald Ian Macdonald, M.D. became The White House Drug Czar for Ronald Reagan.
(http://http://thestraights.net/images/bush-hw-bilirakis-small.gif)
Vice President George Bush shedding a tear at a Straight-St Pete Open Meeting in March 1987. On his right is Florida Congressman Michael Bilirakis.[/list]
While in Washington Dr. Macdonald's daughter Sally worked for Florida Republican Congressman Michael Bilirakis shown with George Bush above at a Straight Open Meeting. [Saint Petersburg Times, Jan 17, 1989, Section: National, p. 1A,] It was during his time as the White House Drug Czar that he invited his old mentor Dr. George Ross over to the White House and admitted to a reporter that he knew "almost nothing" about drug addiction before meeting George Ross. [LEXINGTON HERALD-LEADER, March 2, 1988, page B1, SECTION: CITY/STATE]
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Yeah, and I was thinkin somthin similar about Dr Schwartz, who put me in the program, literally talked to my folks and put me in the program, $tr8 inc.
And when I was near the end a my "program", "Dr". Schwartz ran into me in the parking lot of the loading dock at $tr8, Springfield, VA,(the Greater Washington, D.C. Program) and said something to me along the lines a "I was gonna make it after-all" That was his ego talkin. ..
Was that Marvin Schwartz from Chicago,Il.
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Yeah, and I was thinkin somthin similar about Dr Schwartz, who put me in the program, literally talked to my folks and put me in the program, $tr8 inc.
And when I was near the end a my "program", "Dr". Schwartz ran into me in the parking lot of the loading dock at $tr8, Springfield, VA,(the Greater Washington, D.C. Program) and said something to me along the lines a "I was gonna make it after-all" That was his ego talkin. ..
Was that Marvin Schwartz from Chicago,Il.
I believe Pirate is referring to a Richard H. Schwartz, M.D., a pediatrician from Fairfax, Virginia. Like Donald Ian McDonald, he too had a son enrolled in Straight.
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Yeah, and I was thinkin somthin similar about Dr Schwartz, who put me in the program, literally talked to my folks and put me in the program, $tr8 inc.
And when I was near the end a my "program", "Dr". Schwartz ran into me in the parking lot of the loading dock at $tr8, Springfield, VA,(the Greater Washington, D.C. Program) and said something to me along the lines a "I was gonna make it after-all" That was his ego talkin. ..
Was that Marvin Schwartz from Chicago,Il.
I believe Pirate is referring to a Richard H. Schwartz, M.D., a pediatrician from Fairfax, Virginia. Like Donald Ian McDonald, he too had a son enrolled in Straight.
Yeah.
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I assume this is Don Ian MacDonald's employment contract with Straight, Inc., yes? This also comes from Wes Fager's webpage titled 'Straight and Medical Research (http://http://thestraights.net/people/medical-doctors/medical-research.htm)'. Fwiw, interestingly enough, linked copy of this document does not display Dr. MacDonald's signature, only that of James Hartz.
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Because Straight, Inc. has found it beneficial to be involved in Medical Research, we mutually agree to the following responsibilities for the position of Director of Medical Research:
1) Through the Director of Medical Research, Straight has the opportunity to provide much information about juvenile drug users and the effects of drugs on them. The Director of Medical Research will seek investigators and projects which are worthwhile and practical. Publishing the results will not only benefit the medical and lay community but will enhance the reputation of Straight.
2) The Director of Medical Research will provide a list of individuals and organizations with whom he has contact due to his speaking engagements.
3) The Director of Medical Research will aggressively seek to establish a positive rapport between organizations like PRIDE, NFP, ETC. AND Straight, Inc.
4) The Director of Medical Research will act as a friend and consultant to Straight, Inc. and assist where asked to do so.
5) Either Straight, Inc. or the the Director of Medical Research may terminate the agreement for services if it is felt by the Executive Director that the Director of Medical Research is not fulfilling his responsibilities or is no longer necessary for the functioning of the program. Likewise, the Director of Medical Research may terminate the agreement if he feels it is no longer in his best interest to be involved with the program.
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James E. Hartz, Executive Director
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Donald Ian MacDonald, M.D.
Director of Medical Research
April 15, 1982
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What aload of shitI never agreed to anything remotely like this. I cant addres my mom ,but my father would have been fuckin batshit over something like this. I can give you 99% probability on it. He told me why He thought str8 was horseshit, but he would have seen this bs as being an abomination. His Irish ass probably would a done something to someone over this.Un-fucking believable. The old confidentuality till its un-profitable or inconvienient story ,why the fuck am I shocked?
wait wait whats this having found past tense bullshit, just wtf happened BEFORE this? And the whole medical and LAY reference? Goddamn glad i opened this can o worms (or am I?)
Enhancing str8s reputation,at our expense.So we were gettin pimped out too? Typical ,making more money on the misery of others. In todays climate would it be out of line to hang or burn someone in effagy?
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In today's climate would it be out of line to hang or burn someone in effigy?
Nope!
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Tar and feathers anyone???????? :roflmao:
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Ah yes, Dr. Mac. He should also go down and be put in jail for his role in the straight thing.
Right on! I didn't know this particular quack but I would like to see all of them hauled into the dock to answer for their behavior. I will die a happy man if i just get to see somebody like Miller Newton standing before a judge with his jail uniform and chains on his hands and feet. A truly beautiful dream. I don't want to wake up.
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I keep thinking about a giant PSychedelic puppet circus protest demonstration...with a thousand people and signs and the press and big tripping puppets on stilts and a story line....A 20 foot tall Mel Sembler, Father Cassian, Dr. Fucktard and a sea of brainwashed druggies motivating...the rules all on billboards and Hippie playing harp on a crazy loudspeaker....it would be alot of fun...burning Straight man...in St. Pete...
a show and protest and something fun for the whole family....
a spectak
:rofl: :tup:
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Hey if theres gonna be nekkid ,trippin hippie chicks I might show up. :roflmao:
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Here's a link to the list of what's in the Reagan Library Collection for Dr. Donald Ian MacDonald. Some stuff is available for public consumption, some not yet, and possibly, some not ever. Given the length of the list, just the introduction follows:
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MACDONALD, DONALD IAN: Files, 1981-1988 – REAGAN LIBRARY COLLECTIONS (http://http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/textual/smof/macdonal.htm)
Parts or all of this collection or series of Presidential records are not currently processed or available for research. Some folders, segments or whole boxes are processed and are currently available for research. This available material is noted in bold.
The non-bolded folders listed in these inventories are subject to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests under the provisions of the Presidential Records Act (PRA)
If you are interested in submitting a FOIA request for access to any of the unprocessed records listed in these inventories or have any questions about these collections or series, please contact our archival staff at 1-800-410-8354, outside the US at 1-805-577-4012, or email [email protected]
MACDONALD, DONALD IAN: Files, 1987-1988
Special Assistant to the President for Drug Abuse Policy, and Director of the White House Drug Abuse Policy Office,1987-1988
Deputy Assistant to the President, and Director of the Drug Abuse Policy Office, 1988-1989
Donald Ian MacDonald was born in New York City in 1931. He received his M.D. from Temple University Medical School in 1958. Prior to joining the Reagan Administration, he was a practicing pediatrician in Clearwater, Florida, and a national leader in the parents' movement against drug abuse. In 1984 MacDonald left his medical practice to become Administrator of the Alcohol, Drug Abuse, and Mental Health Administration (ADAMHA), a unit within the Department of Health and Human Services. While he was ADAMHA Adminstriator, he also served as acting head of the U.S. Public Health Service from December 1985 to July 1986.
In February 1987 MacDonald was appointed head of the Reagan White House's Drug Abuse Policy Office, with the additional role of advising President Reagan on the Administration response to the AIDS epidemic. At the same time, MacDonald continued to lead ADAMHA, as Interim Director, until a new Director took over in June 1988. After MacDonald was replaced at ADAMHA, he was promoted from a White House Special Assistant to a Deputy Assistant.
Many documents in this collection were originally created or utilized by Carlton E. Turner, who preceded MacDonald as head of the Drug Abuse Policy Office. Some folder titles include numeric or alphanumeric codes, whose purpose is not clear at this time.
The Donald Ian MacDonald collection has been arranged by the Library Staff and the following is the preliminary container list. The Library has received numerous Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests for this material, including a request for the entire collection. We have begun processing the request for the entire collection and this material is represented at the beginning of the inventory for Boxes 1-7. The remainder of the available folders is responsive to other MacDonald and/or subject FOIA requests and is still shown contained with "OA" numbered boxes.[/list]
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This is the ball I had hoped would get rolling once I started this thread. I just didnt want it to be a Seamus says thread. Im so glad others want to look past the obvious Mel Sembler shit. Ive had suspicion all along that this was the case. But I still believe that this tale is told by many mouths,not just mine. thanks,seriously. Theres more to this than meets the eye, elsewise why would it have continued so long unimpeded? In the docs that Ursus posted,there are 2 really troubling things.
first the past tense reference about medical reasearch, that appears prior to the numbered sections of the agreement, which would lead one to believe something took place even prior to MacDonalds involvement...( hey ,re-read it,and LOOK)
And second just whom the results of proposed furthur research would be shared with( I believe it says medical and LAY persons) again who exactly would these Lay people be? Law enforcement? Academics? Joe Schmoe?....would this leave the door open for something darker?
I seriously wonder. Were they gettin ready to pimp us all out for something? It may sound paraniod,but thats never stopped me before,so Ill say it. Do you ever wonder if there wasnt something IN the cool-aid? More to the picture somehow?
Just wtf were they REALLY up to?
Again I say If you have a hunch, if you have suspicions....pursue them. And again thanks.
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Here's an excerpt from Pete Brady's article "Straight, Incorporated (http://http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2072.html)" (November 12, 2001, Cannabis Culture Magazine), in which Arnold Trebach recalls encountering Donald Ian MacDonald as a co-panelist at a drug conference in Australia:
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Arnold Trebach: "Many premier medical people... have been involved in organizations that harm youth."[/list]
Dr Arnold Trebach, a political science professor, public interest attorney, and author, founded the [Trebach I]nstitute in 1999 after retiring from the Drug Policy Foundation, which he founded in 1986.
During his 50 year career as a civil rights official, professor, and reform advocate, the 73-year-old Trebach has increasingly focused on the drug war as a symbol of what's wrong with America.
Trebach's 1987 book, The Great Drug War, is perhaps the best single volume about the subject. Its unparalleled credibility and comprehensiveness are grounded in Trebach's abundant skills as a policy analyst, legal scholar, and investigative journalist.
The book contains a chapter describing in chilling detail the incarceration of Fred Collins, now a doctorate-holding professor of mathematics, in the St Petersburg Straight facility in 1982. Collins did not have a drug abuse problem, but his brother George was already in the program, and Straight often demanded that siblings of inmates also be enrolled in residential treatment. Fred Collins' parents tricked him into entering the Straight building. He was held there in abysmal conditions against his will until he escaped four months later.
During Mel Sembler's tenure as ambassador to Australia, Trebach attended an international drug conference in the "land down under."
"A pediatrician from St Petersburg, Donald Ian Macdonald, Straight's medical director, was on a panel with me," Trebach recalls. "He gave a speech saying that I represent the worst of America, that it was despicable that he had to share the stage with a drug pusher. In my response, I said, 'Dr Macdonald, thank you for revealing to this international audience, and our American ambassador and his wife, the viciousness and cowardice of drug warriors. You've worked at the right hand of the president of the United States, and I want everybody here to know that adopting American drug policy means adopting these vicious and cowardly sentiments.'
"During the evening session," continued Trebach, "my wife and I were sitting near Holland's head of drug policy when Mel Sembler got up and said, 'I'm glad that everyone is here, including Dr Trebach and Dr Macdonald. I have some experience in this field - I formed a drug treatment program called Straight Incorporated, to help children.' The Dutch official said to me, 'Oh, I have heard about that program. It's the Hitler Youth.'"
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Article mentioning Dr. Donald Ian Macdonald's speaking at a press conference and reception in support of the program Turnaround Inc. on March 14, 1987: Link (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36896&p=399655#p399655).
Turnaround Inc. was a L.I.F.E. Inc. spinoff, founded by P.R.I.D.E. of Polk County (Winter Haven, FL).
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God is McDonald a quack or what. I speak from personal experience, been knowing him for almost 50 years.