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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part III (The Aplogy)
« on: November 10, 2010, 11:35:05 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"

Mr. Reuben, are you smoking crack again or something?  Do you actually believe these
lies you keep telling?  I think you do.  

Son, you got some splan'in to do:

Son of Serbia has been lying on this site since day one.  I think it throws into question all his posts about CEDU in the readers opinion.  I like how you challenge people to check your posts knowing that you are a bigot.

Here take a look at Son of Serbias own words.  There are hundreds of lies in this forum from him:

please don't not refer to me as "deranged", i prefer the term "eccentric". And i am not a biggot either, check my posts, you will see that i haven't called anyone a faggot.


Link

In another post son of Serbia writes:

The only faggot I see on this site is you!

Link

Seems the ones that get so pissed at others lying are the biggest liars themselves.  I proved this with Dysfunction Junction also.



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Yeah whatever John.  We've been over this before Whootie.  John Reuben says I'm a lying biggot - because I told a biggoted troll who was calling other Cedu Survivors faggots, that HE was the only faggot I saw on the board.

Obviously in your crack induced(?), schizophrenic, self-grandizing reality - this makes me president of the ku klux klan - right Whootie?  Man you're fucked up!

Anyways, I invite everyone to read through the cedu archives including my post & those of the anon troll I was responding to, and judge for themselves.  For all I know, the programmed anon biggot I responded to was probably another one of "Whooter's" sock puppets.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies
« on: November 10, 2010, 11:16:43 AM »
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
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But in the end there are really no strings which connect me back to this guy

Except for the fact that you have yet to explain why:

1. Why you have the same email address as John Reuben.

???  I've never heard this before.  'Splains a lot though.  How did this piece of information come about?


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4. Your fiduciary interest in the TTI.

Yeah, that was never really explained.  It was some bullshit like "we all have a fiduciary interest thru our insurance" or some other crap.

It's fairly obvious to me that protecting his investment(s)is what motivates Whooter's
trolling activities here at fornits. Apparently, money is all John Reuben (Whooter) has.  
It's really sad to see how low someone will sink & what they'll do for even a little bit of money.  

Is all this anger and hurt you're causing really worth it Whooter? I know stupid question, because obviously it is worth it to you - but why?  Seriously Whooter, why does it bother you so much that people who were abused in programs post about it here at fornits?  If people want to share their experience online  hoping that someone will listen, or just wanting to tell the truth, or to lend their support to others, or to find closure, or whatever the reason is - then why the hell do you care? If you're not here trolling and antagonizing program survivors to protect your investment(s) Whooter, then why do you do it then?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Do Survivors Lie: Part III (The Aplogy)
« on: November 10, 2010, 10:45:58 AM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Shadyacres"

As I pointed out, you do this every day.  It is obvious that nobody here is in more pain than you, why don't you talk about it?  What is so horrible that you have to cope with it by antagonizing abuse victims from the safety of your computer chair?

You are fairly new here, Shady.  I take great pleasure in pointing out that Lenny and Squiggy (Bruce and DJ) wasted years of their lives trolling me only to find out they were chasing a ghost.  Neither of these guys were abused in a Program.  Bruce spent less than a month inside the place, they made him clean up his own mess and he ran away and DJ was staff at HLA until they did a background check and found out he had felony convictions then he had to reinvent himself elsewhere.  All is good,no one is getting hurt, no abuse victim is being antagonized.



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Mr. Reuben, are you smoking crack again or something?  Do you actually believe these
lies you keep telling?  I think you do.  I think you're so fucked up, that you don't know
what's true and what isn't anymore.  The very fact that you even started a thread
entitled "Why Do Survivors Lie" in itself demonstrates you're intention to antagonize  
abuse victims/survivors.

Another thing "whooter" - R. Bruce & DJ were trolling you for years? BULLSHIT!  I'm not
new to these forums.  I've been posting at fornits on and off for almost 6 years. You've
been trolling this site under a variety of assumed usernames for at least as long as I've been
here.  The reason why you have so much animosity for R. Bruce & DJ is that they've successfully busted you on so many of your lies, and continue doing so.  

Another thing John, you say R.Bruce & DJ are Lenny & Squiggy, so then what does that make you and Danny B II?  Personally, I don't view Whooter  & Danny B II as being Lenny & Squiggy - Whooter & Danny B II are more like Zed & Marsellus.  They had another friend Maxie pad/Suck it - he was their Gimp, but Maxie got tired so he collected his "toys" and went home.

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Quote from: "Che Gookin"
There is that Danny Bennison guy, he's always lying about his survivor experiences. Maybe you should ask him about it?

Great example!  There's also John Reuben aka Whooter: he lied about having a son who was a program survivor, presumably to lend false credibility to his own arguments supporting
parents who sent their kids to abusive programs.  Maybe you should ask him about that.

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Quote from: "Troll Control"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"
Now I'm freaking clown, snake oil salesman, & huckster lookin for attention

You can try to deflect and call yourself whatever you like, Son of Serbia, but bottom line is you are a liar.  Even if you lied for attention, as you admitted above, it doesnt matter.  Its still a lie.  You are making yourself look foolish.  If we accepted you explanation of why you lied earlier then this would set up a double standard so it wouldn't work here on fornits.  We need to just look at the individual posts and view them at face value like the rest of us.



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Mr. Reuben - did you purposely leave out the punctuation marK (?) so you could infer that what I said is a statement, rather than a question?

Man that's low, even for a lying creep like you.  Anyways John I rest my case, and I think I've made my point.  Besides, I've got dinner waiting on the table, and a loving wife and son waiting for me.  You don't have any of that do you?  How sad.  So I guess I've already won.
Ciao.

Lols.  Whooter's back in the OFFA again I see.  Relegated to the garbage pile because of his incessant lying and deailing again.

SOS, that's how Whooter rolls, dude.  Check out the links in my signature and have a read about how Whooter does business here on Fornits.

He's just trying to avoid the consequences of getting caught lying and then confessing to it.  Keep his feet to the fire, SOS.  As he squirms the lies just keep pouring out and then you quote him right away before he can edit/delete the lies and you just link to them when you see Whooter telling his tall tales to someone else.  I find this is the most effective type of troll control.  Then he just ends up here in OFFA where he belongs.

 :eek:  :roflmao:  :bs:

I hear you TC.  John Reuben is a total fucking clown, I mean seriously.  Now he's
labelled me a liar and a bigot.  That's just too funny.  He quotes one post where
I responded to some loser from cedualumni.com who said I came to his website
calling everyone faggots, which was total bullshit - so I told him to reread my
post over THERE and he will see that I never said that.

Then John Reuben quotes another post where I responded to some pro-program anon troll
biggot (probably Anne Hall or her son).  The guy was calling all of us Cedu survivors whiny
faggots and other such nonsense - so I responded to the anon bigot by telling him that
HE was the only faggot I saw on the board.

Of course John the Liar Reuben AKA "whooter" purposely misrepresented my words, to
infer his own fabricated meaning and wholla - now all the sudden he's labeling me a liar and bigot!

Even more lies by John Reuben the biggest liar of them all.  Well guess what John - go fuck
yourself!  It's not my fault you're a lonely, bitter, loser, who abused, fucked up, & chased away his own family, so now the only things John Reuben has to keep himself warm at night is his
keyboard, hardrive, & monitor!  HA HA HA HA!!!   :rofl:

By the way Troll Control - you rule dude!  I'm glad to see you're still around, sticking your thumbs in this jack ass John Reuben's eyes.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: CEDU lifeboat
« on: October 12, 2010, 10:03:40 AM »
Quote from: "lifeboat"
The lifeboat experience was very hard for me.  I would never wish for anyone in my peer group to die.  This experience made me very sad.  I would never want to say goodbye to friends if I were dying.  I did not like to sort out in my head whether people should die or not.  I have a special compassion for people.  I don't believe that anyone should have to die.  When I had to say goodbye to people like my grandmothers, sister, brother, friends, and put a rose on my mother's grave and one on my father's grave, it shows how much  I love people.  I was also thinking about Shiela's little girl when I went around to her, I don't like thinking like that at all.  I began to think that when the boat was drowning it is was my turn to go to sleep and wonder if my mother felt this way when she died.  I now understand her, I think just from experiencing this exercise.  This exercise is a very important lesson because it teaches me that I have to tell people how much I love them.  I felt small when I was done sharing for one minute why I think I should live.  Because I kept on babbling the same thing over a few times.  There should have been more reasons why I should live - why I felt small.

Wow, that's messed up.  Just another reason why I'm so glad I split and got the fuck out
of Cedu when I did.  At least this is one horrible memory from Cedu that I don't have!  I'm sorry you had to go thru that Lifeboat.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: CEDU lifeboat
« on: October 12, 2010, 10:03:21 AM »
Quote from: "lifeboat"
The lifeboat experience was very hard for me.  I would never wish for anyone in my peer group to die.  This experience made me very sad.  I would never want to say goodbye to friends if I were dying.  I did not like to sort out in my head whether people should die or not.  I have a special compassion for people.  I don't believe that anyone should have to die.  When I had to say goodbye to people like my grandmothers, sister, brother, friends, and put a rose on my mother's grave and one on my father's grave, it shows how much  I love people.  I was also thinking about Shiela's little girl when I went around to her, I don't like thinking like that at all.  I began to think that when the boat was drowning it is was my turn to go to sleep and wonder if my mother felt this way when she died.  I now understand her, I think just from experiencing this exercise.  This exercise is a very important lesson because it teaches me that I have to tell people how much I love them.  I felt small when I was done sharing for one minute why I think I should live.  Because I kept on babbling the same thing over a few times.  There should have been more reasons why I should live - why I felt small.

Wow, that's messed up.  Just another reason why I'm so glad I split and got the fuck out
of Cedu when I did.  At least this is one horrible memory from Cedu that I don't have!  I'm sorry you had to go thru that Lifeboat.

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Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"
Now I'm freaking clown, snake oil salesman, & huckster lookin for attention

You can try to deflect and call yourself whatever you like, Son of Serbia, but bottom line is you are a liar.  Even if you lied for attention, as you admitted above, it doesnt matter.  Its still a lie.  You are making yourself look foolish.  If we accepted you explanation of why you lied earlier then this would set up a double standard so it wouldn't work here on fornits.  We need to just look at the individual posts and view them at face value like the rest of us.



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Mr. Reuben - did you purposely leave out the punctuation marK (?) so you could infer that what I said is a statement, rather than a question?

Man that's low, even for a lying creep like you.  Anyways John I rest my case, and I think I've made my point.  Besides, I've got dinner waiting on the table, and a loving wife and son waiting for me.  You don't have any of that do you?  How sad.  So I guess I've already won.
Ciao.

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Sorry Mr. Reuben - but I have to bust you for lying yet AGAIN!  No one asked me if I lied,
and I certainly didn't answer by stating that "I was never caught".  - as John "Liar" Reuben has suggested.  Let's review the record:

Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"
Quote from: "DannyB II"
We don't know this to be true, at all. You could have posted under the guest option. See, your expecting all of us to take you at your word. You could be a liar.
I choose not to think so in this case, I believe you. Because in this one case I think we stand side by side, we want people to know it was us speaking.[/b]

Well, unlike you're pal John Reuben AKA "Whooter" - No one has ever proven that I lied on
this forum.  Big difference there.  That's why my word is actually worth something, and
"Whooters" isn't.  Get it?  Probably not, considering that your world is defined by double standards - Danny B II.


Danny B II  was responding my earlier statements that unlike John Reuben the "whooter", I don't use sock puppets and that all my posts are readily available for everyone to see under the username "Son Of Serbia"   As you can all see Danny B II stated:

"We don't know this to be true, at all. You could have posted under the guest option. See, your expecting all of us to take you at your word. You could be a liar. "

In response I stated:

"Well, unlike you're pal John Reuben AKA "Whooter" - No one has ever proven that I lied on
this forum.  Big difference there.  That's why my word is actually worth something, and
Whooters isn't."

Well there you have it - the meaning of my post is simple enough.  I'm not a proven liar like
John Reuben AKA Whooter is.  That's why my word IS indeed worth something, while your
word Mr. Reuben aint worth shit.

I reprinted the complete posts, and I believe my intended meaning is quite clear.  Unlike,
Mr. Reuben, I did not reproduce merely one sentence and infer my imagined meaning of it.

That's another lie you've been busted on Mr. Reuben.

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Quote from: "DannyB II"
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SOS wrote:
Yeah, Okay John - whatever you say.  Very well, hear you go - I don't lie on this forum, and I never lied on this forum in my posts concerning my experiences  and the abuses I personally suffered & witnessed at Cedu School Running Springs.  I've never lied about my personal background, my family, my views on programs & the "trouble teen industry", nor have I lied about my political views, my religious beliefs, and my life in general.  I think that just about covers everything.

In any event - the whole reason I stated "No one has ever proven that I lied on this forum" was to illustrate my point to Danny B II that my word is worth something because I am NOT a
proven liar, unlike John Reuben aka "whooter" who in fact is a proven liar.  But as usual, the whole meaning of my post was dismissed by Mr. Reuben, who instead chose to interpret it selectively & present his own distorted view of my words.      LIE,  SOS does this look familar

Well there you have it.  I guess this means I'm "redeemed", right Mr. Reuben?

Yes, you are a liar and a big one at that. Actually you are one of the most despicable liars most of us here have ever met. You pretend you speak for everyone, lie...you pretend you know Whooter, lie...you pretend you have done your homework on Whooter, lie.....You set up a topic "liar" concerning Whooter, knowing that it was not his motivation nor interest to do on the post in question, lie.....you willfully and knowingly mislead readers, lie

There are five lies right there for everyone to see. Serbia you are a pathetic liar with a bone to pick with Whooter and that is all this is about. Stop being pretentious, you are a two bit huckster, snake oil salesmen looking for attention.
Grow up ya freaking clown.


Now I'm freaking clown, snake oil salesman, & huckster lookin for attention? Still labeling me huh.  God you're a fucking NAZI - Danny B II.

BTW - did my homework on John Reuben,  everyone who posted on this thread (except you and whooter) stated they believe that John Reuben lied, I never claimed to know John Reuben personally, I didn't set up this topic but the fact that John Reuben lied is well established, and so is his motivation for lying (lending support to a program parent), and no - I never willfully mislead anyone, but you did Danny B II (IE: you said that we're all predjudiced and out to oppress whooter by lying about him and the fact that he lied).

So actually, I just caught Danny B II telling 5 lies - but that doesn't surprise me.  After all what
else should  we expect from Danny B II the Nazi Boy!

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Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"



Yeah, Okay John - whatever you say.  Very well, hear you go - I don't lie on this forum.

Hmmm...  When I tried to explain why I said what I said it was interpreted as damage control intended to cover a mistake.   You will see that if we elliminate the double standard then your explaination has to be rejected the same as mine was.

So you see you are a liar and have been caught several times, Son of Serbia.  You helped to build the double standard you applied to me and you need to live in it the same as I do.

Just try to keep it honest going forward.



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I made a statement of fact - which you misinterpretted this as me admitting to having lied on this forum.  How you came to such a conclusion? I have no Idea.  Clearly, no such admission was ever made by me Mr. Reuben.    I stand by my words, and everyone else clearly understood them, except you (and maybe your follower Danny B II). But I guess that being on the defensive as the proven liar that you are John, you'll do anything to turn attention away from yourself.  You freely admitted to lying John, that's why so many people here including myself are disgusted with you and your behavior.

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Quote from: "Whooter"
So just a general question at this point.  If it is okay for Son of Serbia to openly lie here on fornits and admit to lying and Watchful Yeoman admits to embellishing his stories to name a few today.  Why is it so bad that I guest posted saying I had a son with the motive of helping a woman and her son who was in a program?

Does anyone see a double standard?



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Better question to ask ourselves:  Is it okay for John Reuben AKA Whooter to openly lie about having a son in the program, get busted lying, and then purposely misrepresent the words of other posters (namely me) as admission of lying, which in fact constitutes yet another obvious lie by Mr. Reuben, for the puropose of justifying the very lie that he (John Reuben) was caught telling in the first place?  

No double standards here John - just a very desperate man (meaning yourself), who doesn't know when to stop making a fool of himself.  By the way - you just admitted that you lied again to help some other lady with a son in the program.

Pay Attention Danny B II, your pal John Reuben aka "whooter" just admitted that he lied
again.

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Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"

 No one has ever proven that I lied on this forum.

lol
Whoops, Son of Serbia had a second chance to redeem himself, but still maintains that he has lied here on fornits.  Your buddy Watchful Yeoman has already admitted to embellishing his stories here on fornits today.
What is this, "coming out day"?
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Yeah, Okay John - whatever you say.  Very well, hear you go - I don't lie on this forum, and I never lied on this forum in my posts concerning my experiences  and the abuses I personally suffered & witnessed at Cedu School Running Springs.  I've never lied about my personal background, my family, my views on programs & the "trouble teen industry", nor have I lied about my political views, my religious beliefs, and my life in general.  I think that just about covers everything.

In any event - the whole reason I stated "No one has ever proven that I lied on this forum" was to illustrate my point to Danny B II that my word is worth something because I am NOT a
proven liar, unlike John Reuben aka "whooter" who in fact is a proven liar.  But as usual, the whole meaning of my post was dismissed by Mr. Reuben, who instead chose to interpret it selectively & present his own distorted view of my words.

Well there you have it.  I guess this means I'm "redeemed", right Mr. Reuben?

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Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Son Of Serbia"
Quote from: "DannyB II"
No one has ever proven that I lied on this forum.

Ha,Ha,Ha  Son of Serbia just stepped in it.  Freudian slip?  You should have said "I never lied on this forum",  but you see you just admitted that you lied here but no one has been able to prove it yet.

Classic.

Watchful Yeoman already admitted that he embellishes his stories here today and now SOS admits he lies on the forum.

The list seems to be growing.



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Huh? Freudian nothing, Mr. Reuben.  Again, No one has ever proven that I lied on this forum.
Period.  That's not an admission of guilt John, just a statement of fact.  On the other hand,
we all know you're a liar "Whooter".  That's already been proven.

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Many Many Programs Abuse Kids
« on: October 11, 2010, 06:19:21 PM »
Quote from: "DannyB II"
So you interpret disagreeing with people and calling their integrity into question being disrespectful. What I should do is just accept what everyone is saying as gold because they are survivors, then I am being respectful.


From what I've noticed about you Nazi boy, you label everyone who disagrees with you as liars, plagurists, bigots, predjudiced, as having no integrity, and other such nonsense.  It's fine to disagree with others, but you have to take it a step further and make derogatory statements about their character - and that IS DISRESPECTFUL.  That's also a clear sign that you have no confidence in your own ability to win your arguements factually, logically, and rationally - hence you resort to personal attacks.  Well guess what,  I think that makes you a fucking NAZI Danny B II, and  I don't respect you.  Get it?

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