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« on: May 20, 2005, 03:39:00 PM »
Antigen, I just got a personal message from a kid
at Hyde. I think he's a current student at Hyde
because he included an e-mail address ending in
"@hyde.edu". I sent him a strongly worded PM
back warning him not to use that address again
because Hyde can legally read his traffic at
that address - it's their server, right? Was I
correct in that?
Anyway, Hyde, unique among gulags as far as I can
tell, provides their kids with a computer lab
connected to the 'net. Call me a worry wart but
I can't belive that Hyde ain't reading kids'
e-mails. Also, I told him to post while at home
on vacation lest Hyde be using spyware. Penny
for your thoughts...
Peace,
Tommy

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2005, 04:08:00 PM »
sort of on the same subject: are pm's here any safer than emails when it comes to being read or intercepted by the KGB? oh, i mean the CIA. no, wait...
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2005, 04:56:00 PM »
Tommy, you're right. It's also worth noting that Hyde has acquired a .edu domain. Those are reserved for real schools, don't ya' know!

fka, of course I can read PMs. So can the dudes who provide hosting service. I generally don't w/o permission. But yeah, it's all stored in a database that I maintain. If I didn't have access to it then I wouldn't be able to run the software that allows you to read it either.

That's true of every server and their admins. If you don't trust Yahoo, aol, hotmail or any other then don't use their mail service.

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2005, 06:07:00 PM »
i wasn't worried about you reading them, i was thinking of for example a Hyde student being a lot safer in terms of not getting caught if they pm'd people here rather than using any email service. i was joking about the KGB... i only meant the fascist police state and any of their operatives.
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2005, 06:59:00 PM »
Oh, well for the most part, yes, safer (by far!) than using hyde.edu. But, frankly, hotmail or some other would be even safer. Fornits just doesn't have the economic or political muscle of a major corporation to back a confidentiality agreement.

But I'm thinking this kid might know that already and that Hyde is not quite as lock down as it used to be. I'm just not sure. Glad the kid's speaking out and hoping to hear some more from lots more people.

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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2005, 07:11:00 PM »
me too, i am upset by the things i am hearing about what is happening at Hyde.
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2005, 07:40:00 PM »
Me too.

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2005, 11:49:00 AM »
Antigen, Hyde never was a lock down. It has
always been sort of a "gulag-lite". The threat
they hold over your head to keep you there is
what the WWASP people call an "exit plan".
In '76 no one tried to stop me from running away.
They just told my parents to kick me out on the
street. Oppositional Defiance has said, however,
that the escorts show up to take people to
Redcliff now so I think they've changed some
policies since then.

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2005, 06:08:00 PM »
Yeah, Tommy, I remember all that. And I had a friend who's little step brother wound up there for a few months. She told me quite a bit about the weirdness of parent weekend and how the parents were creeped out by that. They were going to let him finish the semester or the year or something. Then, the final straw, they kid told them he couldn't visit or talk on the phone or some such. And it wasn't that he was prohibited; it was that he felt guilty about something and said he needed to stay in the chapel and pray till he felt better. He was going on 3 days straight, I think.

It's definitely the same ol'e mindfuck as ever. I'm just not sure how closely they watch the kids. I'm guessing it's pretty close for the new kids. But higher levels surveil themselves.

Either way, I do think it's probably a bad idea for this kid to give out his Hyde.edu email address. But then again, he may be a troll. No offense to you if you're for real. Please understand that it has happened before many times that a program mole will pretend to be a critic in order to bust the IDs of real critics  or get other sensitive info and/or trick them into making actionable statements.

I'm not talking specifically about Hyde here. Just the industry in general. And ya gotta know that those parent support groups and edcons like to pass along tips and tricks like that.

Paranoid yet?  :lol:

Don't be skeerd. But do be skeptical and careful.

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is often very tolerant and human. But when fanatics are on top,
there is no limit to oppression.

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