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« Reply #60 on: May 26, 2005, 12:06:00 PM »
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"Oh and timolca, your long winded responses probbably don't get read all the way through, if people are like me and get real boared at you rambling."
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Some people get bored reading, some don't.  I'd guess you're not likely to buy any of my books, either. :smile:

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« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2005, 12:48:00 PM »
"The Academy is not currently accredited by any agency or the State to issue diplomas. School officials told the Daily Courier in Ogdensburg that private, non-public schools such as the Academy are not required to hold accreditation to operate. School officials deny any wrongdoing and are working with the A.G.?s office to address concerns."

Does anyone have a copy of the contract that the parents sign for Ivy Ridge? If so, could you tell us what it says in it, verbatim, about the education and the "diplomas" that the children can earn. Also, could you give us the exact verbiage on the contract the parents sign about the accredidation of the school?
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« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2005, 02:51:00 PM »
Ivy Ridge seeks ideas of neighbors
by Sarah A. Booth, Times Staff Writer
First published: Thursday, May 26, 2005

OGDENSBURG - The Academy at Ivy Ridge is considering neighbors' suggestions on how to respond when students run away from the Route 37 facility.

Some neighbors complained that Ivy Ridge staff members and students trespassed on their property during an incident May 16. Nearly 30 boys fled the campus after breaking windows and setting off alarms. Some neighbors said Ivy Ridge didn't notify them, and others said they were concerned about the students' safety.

A 90-minute informational meeting Wednesday invited neighbors to tour the campus and ask Director Jason G. Finlinson questions. Forty-four people signed in, including some Ivy Ridge neighbors, town of Oswegatchie Supervisor Alfred J. Nichols and his son, St. Lawrence County Legislature Chairman Thomas A. Nichols, R-Oswegatchie.

Ivy Ridge plans to install an automated phone alert system to tell neighbors when a student has fled. The alert system could be set up in two or three weeks to call everyone who signed in at the meeting, Mr. Finlinson said. The message would advise people to lock their doors and not allow students into their homes.

Previously, Ivy Ridge had used a contact list of people who chose to be notified. Some neighbors on the list said they weren't contacted promptly.

Mr. Finlinson was asked how neighbors who weren't able to attend Wednesday's meeting would be notified in an emergency situation. Some seasonal and elderly residents along the St. Lawrence River didn't attend.

Mr. Finlinson said he may advertise the message system.

"It isn't that hard to get everyone's contact information," said Wylon A. Springstead of McEwen Lane.

She suggested Mr. Finlinson use a tax map of the town of Oswegatchie to find nearby property owners to notify.

"That's a great idea; we'll look into that," Mr. Finlinson said.

Many neighboring residents complained that Ivy Ridge staff members didn't have identification when they were searching through their yards for students. Other neighbors asked why students were out searching for missing students. Mr. Finlinson showed recently purchased reflective vests that he said staff members would be required to wear during a search.

"We have instructed staff to not go on your property," he said. "Last week was an isolated case. The kids were just trying to be helpful. From now on, we'll call 911 and let them do the search."

Not everyone was opposed to Ivy Ridge's past tactics for finding runaways.

"They can run across my property anytime they want because they have a reason," said Daniel A. Cook, of 53 Fell Farm Road.

Other neighbors suggested using a foghorn or a flashing light to alert neighbors when there is a runaway.

"Oswegatchie is going to work with Ivy Ridge too. We'll do everything we can," Alfred Nichols said. "I think they'll have to do better. They've got to."
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« Reply #63 on: May 26, 2005, 03:23:00 PM »
What? WWASP isn't offering bounties for catching
runaways as I've seen posted about their Montana
gulags? The tactic ought to work in the Watertown
area too. That's the poorest part of New York
State. The only employer of any consequence there
is the NY State prison system. That's why NYS has
so much trouble getting rid of the Rockefeller
Drug Laws, it would be bad for jobs and the North
Country is overrepresented in the state senate.

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« Reply #64 on: May 26, 2005, 03:43:00 PM »
Fuck off!!! How's that for English fuckhead!
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« Reply #65 on: May 27, 2005, 12:50:00 PM »
They can run across my property anytime they want because they have a reason," said Daniel A. Cook, of 53 Fell Farm Road.

This person had it right. It's so unfortunate that these children are viewed the same as convicts by the residents of the area.  I think it would be wise if mailers were sent to residential neighborhoods near these programs to explain the plight of these children - how they suffer brutal punishments in an warped effort to change their behavior and values.  

At least one resident - Daniel Cook - understands.  

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« Reply #66 on: May 27, 2005, 12:53:00 PM »
I don't think he does.  He was talking about the pursuers.
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« Reply #67 on: May 27, 2005, 12:59:00 PM »
Well then - it look like those neighbors need to be told what's really happening behind those fences and locked doors.  

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« Reply #68 on: May 27, 2005, 02:15:00 PM »
I would of loved for one of the staff to come trespassing on my property looking for students.. BAM!  

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Other neighbors suggested using a foghorn or a flashing light to alert neighbors when there is a runaway.


These people are fucking crazy. The kid just wants to get as far away from that shithole as possible, not go and rape some elderly resident of the town... although WWASP would have you believe otherwise. Fuck wwasp and that town for being so ignorant.
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« Reply #69 on: May 27, 2005, 03:26:00 PM »
Isnt it nice how wwasps takes kids of all kinds, and says they'll fix their problems - yet as soon as they show up, they're ALL dangerous lying suicidal druggies?

Sometimes I wonder why nobody ever noticed that... surely not EVERY child sent to wwasps is like that, but wwasps sure acts like they are the minute they get a child in their clutches.

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #70 on: May 27, 2005, 09:05:00 PM »
I kinda like the idea of sending out mailers. Wonder how one would go about it?
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« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2005, 07:49:00 AM »
I am convinced that you people have no life, or a very screwed up one.
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« Reply #72 on: May 28, 2005, 07:42:00 PM »
Yeah, Antigen is one. Guess what she did? She fixed her kid without a program? Just like we have for thousands of years.

Why not ask her?

And no, I dont know these schools have helped many people! Nobody except the children really know what goes on, but from what I've seen from them, it seems to be a matter of breaking them down and making them act good, else they get tortured and mentally fucked with in the seminars for a few more months.

Yeah, real good help there buddy. I made a loooonnnnngggg thread asking programmies how the program actually does a DAMN thing, at all, and guess what came out of that?

Jack. Shit. NOBODY seems to even know whats going on, mcuh less HOW this help automagically happens.   Do you? And BTW - if you say "instill" I'm going to put my fist down your throat.

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #73 on: May 29, 2005, 06:11:00 AM »
But you would not take perigaud's word for it either. Seems to me she explained allot and you just don't want to except it. Grow up niles!
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« Reply #74 on: May 29, 2005, 06:11:00 AM »
But you would not take perigaud's word for it either. Seems to me she explained allot and you just don't want to except it. Grow up niles!
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