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Rich Molineaux(sp?) and "The Midnight Express" movie rap
« on: July 25, 2005, 05:54:00 PM »
i got a little story to tell ya'll if you'll lend me your ear, i will try not to sing out of key. i do remember this time at the springfield str8, probably about 1986 or so, i was on 1st phase(yeah, i know i spent a lot of time on 1st phase) and it was Saturday night. There was some kind of a vibe in the air that instead of the usual intense brainwash/rape that we might get to have one of those, oh what were they called? Those Saturday night fun raps, where people would do skits and play guitar 'n' all, or maybe see a movie or somethin' light and different just to keep the group from goin' completely insane.We only got to have raps like that about every 2 or 3 months or so. Ya'll know what i'm talkin' 'bout?
Anyhow, group was moved into the carpet room and we all sat down indian style on the floor with our backs str8, our mouths shut and our eyes looking str8 ahead(what an image).  Rich Molineaux(sp) was on staff by then and i guess he had picked out what he thought would be an appropriate film for drug addicted juvenile delinquents who had issues with authority. i don't really know what he was thinkin' but the film he chose to play for all us punks in group was "Midnight Express"(rated R). Yeah, it's true. That night while i was on 1st phase i actually watched the film "Midnight Express"(unedited) in the building, in group.
If you've ever seen the film you know that it's the true story of an American man who gets caught tryin' to smuggle like all these bricks of hash or opium or somethin' which were all taped to his body, out of Turkey on a commercial flight to the U.S. in like 1971 or thereabouts.  So the cat gets arrested and ends up doin' all this time in a Turkish prison, where all kinds of craziness is a-goin' on. Certain scenes inside the prison show inmates smokin' hash and opium out of water pipes and such. The highlight of the film at least for me at that time, was the scene in which our hero sits behind a glass partition with a phone and waits to talk to his girlfriend. By this time in the film the struggle to free our hero from the Turkish authorities, through the efforts of the U.S. consulate is goin' nowhere and indeed things are beginning to look grim. She enters the visitation booth and sits down opposite her desperate drug smuggelin' boyfriend on the other side of the glass and picks up the phone. i don't remember how the conversation began but i do remember that it deteriorated swiftly as our hero begged his girlfriend to show him her beautiful tits, which she did. Our hero then begins to stroke himself off under the desk which he is seated at. It is indeed a desperate scene.  The woman presses her breasts up against the glass as tears run down her cheeks. It was quite a scene to take in especially if you were a guy who wasn't supposed to even look at girls and yet here we were watchin' all this in group! Yeah i remember bein' so deprived of female companionship that a stiff breeze blowin' thru the parkin' lot could get me up.(shakin' my head in disbelief). At the end of the film our hero kills the warden in a fist fight, puts on his uniform and walks right out the prison gate. It was like everything a 1st phaser shouldn't see: sex, drugs, and victory over imprisonment. What a great flick. To this day one of my all-time favorite movies.
When it was all over i guess exec. staff made Rich M. apologize to the group for making everyone feel weak (o shit!)oh man, how funny, heh heh.
Or was there some kind of a secret messege that Rich M. was tryin' to convey? i don't know, but i wonder.
Anyway that is just a little story that i thought might be of some interest to some of you. Thanks for listening. i enjoyed the tellin'.
And oh yeah, i almost forgot: Fuck Str8, Fuck all authority. Let love and compassion be our light. ::rainbow::
Spiritual Anarchy!!
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2005, 06:02:00 PM »
I remember that night! Man that was a crazy movie to show us. We had a rap afterwards. One of the topics were how sick guys must be to sleep with other guys. Came from what the inmates were doing. Straight was so twisted about its message to homosexuals...but I digress.

I guess it was pretty cool of him to show us that. Maybe empowering?

Pirate, that had to be at least '87 b/c I wasn't there in '86. I'm dying to find out who you are!

Anyway, I think I'll see that flick again. Of them all, I really liked Rich. I hope he's ok.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2005, 06:12:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-25 15:02:00, shady grove wrote:

I guess it was pretty cool of him to show us that. Maybe empowering?


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Yeah, the more i think about it the more i wonder if he knew what he was doin' or not. Because that movie was nothin' if not an inspiration to drug smuggelers fightin' the vampire babylon system. i am just laughin' and laughin' as i think back on it now.
R.M. was my oldcomer once(almost everyone was at one point or another).
i hope i did the quote thing right.
i will private messege you, so you will know who i am. ::rainbow::
peace.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2005, 07:21:00 PM »
> Yes, me, Kris and Jenny were all together.  They told us we were
> considered "flight risks" since we had historys of running away so
> they wanted us in Lock down until we were sufficiantly programmed
> otherwise.  The funny thing is when I came back from copping out in
> Michigan the three of us would TBB about everyone from Cinci and we
> lied and said that we had permission since the Cinci program had
> closed down! LOL!  No one ever questioned us on that...Jenny had it
> rough in Cinci.  She would stand up and try and share feelings about
> something, but if there was this one particular staff member in the
> room it was pretty much a guarantee that she was hitting the floor. 
> I think he was infatuated with her and in a sick way wanted to see
> her humiliated.  One time they brought out a mirror and were trying
> to force her to look at herself in the mirror and some fifth phasers
> were holding her arms and forcing her head in the direction of the
> mirror.  She refused to open her eyes and she was crying hysterically
> and this staff member was pacing back and forth in front of the room
> screaming at her to look at herself and finally he yelled, "Take her
> down!" and the fifth phasers slammed her on the ground and some
> others ran over to join in.  I feel sick just writing about it.  It
> was like he was trying to rape her soul!  This staff member was from
> the VA program.  His name was Rich and was tall and lanky with bright
> red hair.  He used to play the guitar in front of group
> occasionally.  He was a senior and then became an executive while I
> was there.  There was another guy from VA program on Cinci staff
> named Jim Gilmore--he was not very tall, but he was very good
> looking, dark hair and complexion...does anyone from VA remember
> either of them? 
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2005, 08:02:00 PM »
yeah, i remember Jim Gilmour from the VA program. i don't remember him bein' too bad, as far as staff members go anyway.
That sucks about what happened to your friend, Jenny. From what i know of Rich, and yeah, i figure we're talkin' about the same guy 'cause that hair color was unmistakeable, anyway from what i know of Rich that seems out of character for him to be so brutal to someone. Please don't take me the wrong way, It just sounds like a different Rich Molleneaux than i knew. i just wonder what the heck he was thinkin' by showin' us that film in group. i am sorry that str8 was so brutal to so many kids, including the 2 of us and your friend.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2005, 08:07:00 PM »
Fuck i just re-read your post for Jenny and that is so fucked up.
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2005, 09:25:00 PM »
Thanks for taking that in. I really got mad at someone a few years back for saying how great Rich was. I just really always thought that people cliqued and loved Straight in a way and I was just about the only rabid anti-Straight person, at least from my day. You can't tell me a good thing about Straight. It really gets my defenses up. I listened to and let myself be subjugated to a lot of mostly verbal abuse, in and out of Straight. So now I really shut it off. Then there was the whole thing of you had to keep your arms at your sides when you were crying so you weren't "hiding". If I sued Straight for any one single thing, it would be how they tore up my mind so I could not even grieve for a really long time.

Perhaps that is tangential, but you see my point is the whole thing was prison and abuse that I did not deserve. Do I have a happy memory from Straight? I think the little twins made me laugh when I was at their house. Paige and Tara. I must have been more convincingly docile at that point, to get sent home with smaller girls. That reminds me, how weird it was to be a "newcomer" in a house with another newcomer, since we could not talk there was all this weird communication via the oldcomer in a round about way. I think we weren't even allowed to look each other in the eyes. Now does that set a person up for some weird compulsions later on?

But I would like to know, what happened to Rich that he turned out to be like that? Sometimes I think the really abusive people there must have had a whole whole lot harder time in the years to follow (if they figured anything out). It is hard enough for me to accept what happened to my own personality in Straight.

Jennifer Loar has posted about going through "deprogramming" or "exit counseling", whatever you call it. I wish people would say if they ever tried that.
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2005, 11:18:00 PM »
i feel what your sayin' sister. i've had a real hard time myself. When i was in there i copped out a bunch of times but they just kept huntin' me down and bringin' me back. i misbehaved and was on consequences, which included only being allowed to sleep for 3 hours a night, the rest of the time i was forced to sit up str8 in a hard wooden chair while oldcomers took turns being "aware" of me. i'm still real fucked up from the whole thing and i have to be self-employed because i just can't even seem to trust anyone enough to even work with people that i don't know. i don't even think i realize yet all the ways my mind has been twisted by that place. Fuck str8, fuck all authority, you are a Goddess.
In peace, starry-eyed pirate  ::rainbow::
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2005, 12:18:00 AM »
That film was shown in '83 too while richard was sittin in a blue chair with the rest of us... nothing special about seein that in group... all things considered, it was just another mindfuck at the time, if you ask me...  :cool:
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2005, 12:51:00 AM »
Jenny was my oldcomer after she was transfered from Cinci to Michigan. She was always good to me and never mistreated me.

Sad for me to reread that post about what happened to her. It's hard for me to articulate to the outside world what all this stuff means. seems like we are the only ones that have the capacity to understand.
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am looking for people who survived Straight in Plymouth, Michigan. I miss a lot of people there and wonder what happened and would like to stay in touch.

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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2005, 03:58:00 PM »
Sorry Jenny and anyone else:

I don't remember Rich being such a dick in Va, maybe someone can remind me. Anyway the description matches and I know those staff floated around alot.

So sorry for your friend. Like starry, I learn new ways I was hurt everyday. When I first found this site I cried for a day and was in a haze for a week. I can't believe I survived.

I have no gratitude for the place but I do for whatever it is that has helped me get by. I can't imagine my life having gone any other way so I don't spend time wishing it didn't happen. I had some good times in there...laughing and trying to survive with my co-captives. Even straight couldn't crush us completely.

I remember Tara and Paige...cute as buttons. Hope they're ok.
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