WWASP's getting burned

[RN on Board]

Boonesville said NO to their Kemper facility and gave back Lichfields' $100,000 check.

A new Federal Bill has been launched to stop the abuse at WWASP facilities.

Randall Hintons past abuse of teens at Tranquility Bay has been exposed.

The people at WWASP need to realize this -

The children they torture become adults who soon realize the unjustice they experienced. There are now hundreds who are willing to testify aganist their so called "programs" of mind control, torture, terror and brainwashing.

[Anonymous]

Really, is that true?  

I heard the threat of a class action suit and it fizzled out due to lack of real evidence.  Whining and temper tantrums don't count. If someone didn't get the results they wanted and paid the monthly tuition, wouldn't that be a good incentive to try and recoup some of those funds?  

If there is ever any REAL abuse, then I would absolutely support a lawsuit.  Has that ever been the case?  

Please point me in the direction of an abuse suit that was actually won.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-04-30 16:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Really, is that true?  



I heard the threat of a class action suit and it fizzled out due to lack of real evidence.  Whining and temper tantrums don't count. If someone didn't get the results they wanted and paid the monthly tuition, wouldn't that be a good incentive to try and recoup some of those funds?  



If there is ever any REAL abuse, then I would absolutely support a lawsuit.  Has that ever been the case?  



Please point me in the direction of an abuse suit that was actually won.  

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There is real abuse. All the time. People are talking. You're just not listening.

So go right ahead, find your inner magical child, hang on to that popsicle stick that means you're alive (how lame can you people be?), and go back to your support group that tells you you're a great parents for sending your child off to be tortured and abused by WWASP.

We'll still be here, telling people what's really going on in these places, and shutting them down, one after the other.

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2005-04-30 16:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

So go right ahead, find your inner magical child, hang on to that popsicle stick that means you're alive (how lame can you people be?),

Oh I have GOT to hear about this!!!!  :grin:  Please explain!!

With soap, baptism is a good thing.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer

[Anonymous]

On 2005-04-30 16:24:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:

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On 2005-04-30 16:22:00, Anonymous wrote:


So go right ahead, find your inner magical child, hang on to that popsicle stick that means you're alive (how lame can you people be?),

Oh I have GOT to hear about this!!!!  :grin:  Please explain!!

With soap, baptism is a good thing.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer

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There's a process in the Focus seminar, in which the people are asked to pretend they're on a sinking ship. They are given popsicle sticks, told that the stick symbolise their lives and shit like that. Then, each one of them is asked to choose 5 people to "throw off the boat". They are asked to go around the circle, yelling in people's faces, "you're DEAD!". Then, the popsicle sticks are taken from the "dead" people.

Of course, the process ends with a re-inforcement/love bombing routine, in which everybody get their sticks back and told that they are now "re-born".

[Anonymous]

Is that the best you can come up with?  Go to my support group and grab my popsicle stick? I'm amused!  Thank you.   ::cheers::

[Anonymous]

On 2005-04-30 16:28:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-04-30 16:24:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:


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On 2005-04-30 16:22:00, Anonymous wrote:



So go right ahead, find your inner magical child, hang on to that popsicle stick that means you're alive (how lame can you people be?),

Oh I have GOT to hear about this!!!!  :grin:  Please explain!!

With soap, baptism is a good thing.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer

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There's a process in the Focus seminar, in which the people are asked to pretend they're on a sinking ship. They are given popsicle sticks, told that the stick symbolise their lives and shit like that. Then, each one of them is asked to choose 5 people to "throw off the boat". They are asked to go around the circle, yelling in people's faces, "you're DEAD!". Then, the popsicle sticks are taken from the "dead" people.



Of course, the process ends with a re-inforcement/love bombing routine, in which everybody get their sticks back and told that they are now "re-born". "

What Focus seminar were you in?  What a weird twist on something so powerful.  And, no I won't share the  process. It would take a couple of hours.  Why would anyone want to spoil it for someone who hasn't been yet by posting the crap you just did.  TOo bad your Focus was so messed up.

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2005-04-30 16:28:00, Anonymous wrote:


There's a process in the Focus seminar, in which the people are asked to pretend they're on a sinking ship. They are given popsicle sticks, told that the stick symbolise their lives and shit like that. Then, each one of them is asked to choose 5 people to "throw off the boat". They are asked to go around the circle, yelling in people's faces, "you're DEAD!". Then, the popsicle sticks are taken from the "dead" people.



Of course, the process ends with a re-inforcement/love bombing routine, in which everybody get their sticks back and told that they are now "re-born". "

You have GOT to be kidding!!  Holy shit!  And this is supposed to help people???  What's the lesson supposedly being taught?

All religions bear traces of the fact that they arose during the intellectual immaturity of the human race - before it had learned the obligations to speak the truth. Not one of them makes it the duty of its God to be truthful and understandable in his communications.
--Freidrich Nietzsche, German philosopher

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2005-04-30 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

 And, no I won't share the  process. It would take a couple of hours.  

Sounds suspiciously like those who are 'grateful' for being an addict because they are now so much more 'enlightened' than the 'normies'. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

A year from now, I'll be very surprised if there is not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush.



--Pentagon advisor, Richard Perle, September 22, 2003

[Anonymous]

On 2005-04-30 16:36:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:

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On 2005-04-30 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:


 And, no I won't share the  process. It would take a couple of hours.  

Sounds suspiciously like those who are 'grateful' for being an addict because they are now so much more 'enlightened' than the 'normies'. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

A year from now, I'll be very surprised if there is not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush.



--Pentagon advisor, Richard Perle, September 22, 2003

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I'm not "enlightened."  I've gone through a seminar or two.  If I wanted to tell people what it meant for me I would, but it's not important to anyone but me. I just think it's selfish to tell other people what to expect and especially if it's a warped view of the real process.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-04-30 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-04-30 16:28:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2005-04-30 16:24:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:



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On 2005-04-30 16:22:00, Anonymous wrote:




So go right ahead, find your inner magical child, hang on to that popsicle stick that means you're alive (how lame can you people be?),

Oh I have GOT to hear about this!!!!  :grin:  Please explain!!

With soap, baptism is a good thing.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer

"

There's a process in the Focus seminar, in which the people are asked to pretend they're on a sinking ship. They are given popsicle sticks, told that the stick symbolise their lives and shit like that. Then, each one of them is asked to choose 5 people to "throw off the boat". They are asked to go around the circle, yelling in people's faces, "you're DEAD!". Then, the popsicle sticks are taken from the "dead" people.





Of course, the process ends with a re-inforcement/love bombing routine, in which everybody get their sticks back and told that they are now "re-born". "

What Focus seminar were you in?  What a weird twist on something so powerful.  And, no I won't share the  process. It would take a couple of hours.  Why would anyone want to spoil it for someone who hasn't been yet by posting the crap you just did.  TOo bad your Focus was so messed up.    "

Something so "powerful"? More like something so fucked up. That is a fucked up process meant to create stress and dependence.

And I would very much like people to know what's happening in these seminars *before* going in them. That way, they're be less effective, and there's be less WWASPies in this world, which means there would be less children subjected to the abuse and torture of WWASP's gulags, which would be a blessing.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-04-30 16:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-04-30 16:36:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:


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On 2005-04-30 16:32:00, Anonymous wrote:



 And, no I won't share the  process. It would take a couple of hours.  

Sounds suspiciously like those who are 'grateful' for being an addict because they are now so much more 'enlightened' than the 'normies'. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

A year from now, I'll be very surprised if there is not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush.






--Pentagon advisor, Richard Perle, September 22, 2003

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I'm not "enlightened."  I've gone through a seminar or two.  If I wanted to tell people what it meant for me I would, but it's not important to anyone but me. I just think it's selfish to tell other people what to expect and especially if it's a warped view of the real process.  "

Why is it selfish to tell people what to expect? Why would it be wrong to tell people what they're getting into, what they are spending their money on?

If you think my description of the process is not accurate, please post a description of how that process went in the Focus seminar you went through.

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2005-04-30 16:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

I just think it's selfish to tell other people what to expect and especially if it's a warped view of the real process.  "

It's not selfish, it's informed consent.

So if you have one of the few "true" views of it, why not let us poor unfortunates who've gotten the "warped" view of it on what's so great?

I am an atheist, out and out. It took me a long time to say it. I've been an atheist for years and years, but somehow I felt it was intellectually unrespectable to say that one is an atheist, because it assumed knowledge that one didn't have. Somehow it was better to say one was a humanist or agnostic. I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect that he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time.
--Isaac Asimov, Russian-born American author

[Anonymous]

First, you didn't pay for the seminar.

Second, I'm not the selfish type.  So I will not post the process.  That would be feeding into the fear of people thinking they are going into some brainwash session and want to know what it will be like before they go.  

Guess what?  If they don't like it they can leave.  

Obviously you didn't get the purpose of the process if it was as you say.  The purpose is to take care of yourself first before you can take care of anyone else.

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2005-04-30 16:54:00, Anonymous wrote:

"First, you didn't pay for the seminar.

So it's at least partially about the money then, yes?

Second, I'm not the selfish type.  So I will not post the process.  That would be feeding into the fear of people thinking they are going into some brainwash session and want to know what it will be like before they go.

No, again....that would be informed consent.

Guess what?  If they don't like it they can leave.  

If they're a kid in a program they can't leave, if they're a parent in a program they're told to take their kid home if they don't complete the seminar....from what I've heard.

Obviously you didn't get the purpose of the process if it was as you say.  The purpose is to take care of yourself first before you can take care of anyone else.  "

and the purpose of the "live" ones screaming at the "dead" ones "You're DEAD"???  What purpose does THAT serve??

In all history, there is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare. Only one who knows the disastrous effects of a long war can realize the supreme importance of rapidity in bringing it to a close. It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted with the evils of war who can thoroughly understand the profitable way of carrying it on.
--Sun Tzu (author of The Art of War