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« on: April 22, 2005, 01:42:00 PM »
There is some information about "Straight-like" programs on Wes Fager's website,but I have been looking a bunch of garbage on http://www.thestraights.com
It just gets worse!
Wes provides more and more links to total nonsense websites.
Now Wes' website contains about 5% information about Straight-like programs and 95% absolute garbage.
Wes has really hurt our cause and now I would NEVER direct anyone to his website in order to educate them about the conditions we endured in the Straight-like programs.
Wes constantly writes about himself in the 3rd person omnicient and makes up "headlines" about himself.
Wes has slipped in to the realm of "big fat liar".
Thanks Wes!
With friends like Wes,who needs enemies like Melvin and Betty?
Oh,and another thing,Wes.Please say hello to your close personal friend Bigfoot for me the next time he drops by your house for tea.
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2005, 03:51:00 PM »
Or maybe it's just over your head.

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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2005, 06:42:00 PM »
Fager was at NATO at the time right after I left. His cause is freemasonary and computers. He also did a lot of slandering my me.Now he'll never tell you the truth about anything or he'll get his eyes gouged out or his tongue cut out. He's in a big cult. :smokin:

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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2005, 09:40:00 PM »
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On 2005-04-22 15:42:00, Iron Man wrote:

"Fager was at NATO at the time right after I left. His cause is freemasonary and computers. He also did a lot of slandering my me.Now he'll never tell you the truth about anything or he'll get his eyes gouged out or his tongue cut out. He's in a big cult. :smokin:

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of the dark. The real tragedy of life is
when men are afraid of the light.
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Preach on, Iron Man! I love it when you psychotics rant on these boards....
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2005, 10:00:00 PM »
Tell me what you see. ok? He may have changed technology at NATO haedquarters. But I've got one dead Italian guy's casket on my wall. It's called Aldo Moro art. Love Thy enemy. Oh boy, He wasn't ready to let communist's on his board of directors. The red skull couldn't find anybody else to die in my place again. So I had to baker act myself just to avoid a bunch of evil caretakers at an ALF. Thank God I'm home.

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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2005, 10:20:00 PM »
Dude, a while back you posted your daily regimen of drugs.....do you think maybe TBPITW would be a better way?

Just curious.....rant on, bro!
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2005, 12:11:00 AM »
Well now the Pope can rest RIP in Hell. I've seen them die like that in person. But the Red Bridge is getting bigger and bigger. My contact in Latvia tells me the Russians are getting to kill more people like 9/11.The American KGB is everywhere. Especially in your mental institutiuons, if not in your Mass Media. In cluding your internet now since the reforms on the FCC took place. I did my diplomacy with China just to give them the chance the Italians don't have. But you've got Sembler's as ambassadors to Italy and you can count on it hitting here too big-time. I'm just glad I read the word and studied it before it disappeared from my possesion. You all won't have a bible to read. IF this Republic is to be fully established. I've got a woman from the Nixon years on a cabinet position. I'm not worried. I'm going to survive. I don't have to die and I can live a long-time and they are not going to torchure me anymore. I'm financially set and ready for more chaos. Oh by the way I did alert microsoft about 9/11 before it happened but all of the sudden I got screwed over by my psychiatrist doctor Magnus. DR. Ryan Magnus. He loves China too. SOB even gave me zyprexa with no side effect pill. If you want to get a dose of Americanism just look at the brainwashing the free-world does. Some guy who rules Italy has all the media controlled. People are still without jobs and are not being taken care of. You can call me "psychotic" all you want. I consider it one of my gifts. YOU don't have.Take me off of all my medicine and you'd be surprized how many things I can do for real. I've seen the man-child. I've been baptized by water at 1 years old. Spirit at 18 and fire somewhere along the lines of early thirties. I've still got a lot of time left. And I don't have to die. You can disable me with your chemicals but you know I've got my own back ups for liver maintenence and I've also got a lifetime pension.What am I worried about. I'm not going anywhere.As long as I don't submit to  Madonna the "double D", and avoid Betty Cracker and her gang of perverts I'm safe. She fought her way outa the Seed and joined the mob. Her kid is a hot man from the mafia and I've had his whole operation in check for years. As for my brother? I could be glad he stays in Montana. He had a dose of the "Kid" who is on his way back here to find himself taken into custody when he gets off the bus. He's a sociopath. Just like just dad John T. Addis.Only John Russell Addis has arryan tatoos on his face and snitch tatooes from New York for more drug smuggling. He' a con man and just will be nothing but an HIV fuck-boy.He had his chance several times. He blew it everytime. You know what? That could have been one of the individuals that could have used my chair at the Seed. It's not there anymore. I've no time for a democracy as it is written down and not amended to protect it's citizens and give us a free media.What are you complaining about me for? Go out and buy a VOOM sattelite television system.The dollar crunch is over. Buy Chinese. It's as open a market as it can be right now. Take advantage. Freedom? HA! In your mind. That's all you need. If you haven't been studying and seeking well I'm really sorry. I have. Watch who sponsor's you so called "slime oozing out of your television sets".If you visit them your just feeding the machine more and more. oil? HA my last guardian was sckull and crossbones. A real Irish Republican Episcapalean bastard.I learned enough to know a few of his ways and some insider news. The fucker even tried to get me to market rain. What a fucking joke. You can't buy rain. That cocksucker even had the balls to eject when I quit covering my ass and came clean. Yeah, He's a war criminal too. Bombed the Holy Shit outa Japan. That's how deep Kernal Douglas Bell was in his trip. He was a soda jerk too. One greedy banker that abused my rights. Doesn't even know he's a gentile. Psychotic ravings? Ha! I got eyes, I got ears. I got a mouth that works quite well on automatic pilot. If you've no clairavoyance or never left this planet or seen the depths of Hell and came back alive for a newv sta4rt you just haven't bottomed out yet. If your using...............count on bottoming out. Just make sure you got somebody to care for your comatose body before you get back.And don't slash your wrists either. That way they win. You lose.Reality hits hard. You never know when the scales will tip. That's reference to real sincere suicide. It's not pre-meditated. I happen to like being a Socialist. I got the fucking national guard protecting my residence after some Haitian voodoo cult tried to kill my ass. His name is Ron Reinhardt Jr. and his wife Laura. In a freaking crooked hotel room in Clearwater beach. Why? They think they've got it made. I still get psychic battery from them all. The Richard Elliot Band? Oh please kill the fuckers. Those brothers aren't that faboulas.I knew them when they started out. I was their first bassman. Jazz-snobs and smooth jazz freaks. Elevator trash. Like breaking fool money with all that magick behind it and the phoney story lines before every song. You like elevator music? I don't. People pay to watch this. And it even sells, but I'm telling you the boyz in the band just are copycats on techniues and titles. Nothing original about either one of those boys. Plaguerist in their early days.Ever seen a "Sound Barrier" set at a lounge, or a dance club you'd be amazed at what tricks were up their sleeves. I'm just glad I don't have to jump through hoops for them phoney baloneys.The show is all fake.SR. is a veteran. Navy school of music.Real nanny goat musician. "Norm's Place" in Clearwater. The place for suckers.

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2005, 11:13:00 AM »
Goddamn  :cry2:
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2005, 03:02:00 PM »
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On 2005-04-22 21:11:00, Iron Man wrote:

"Well now the Pope can rest RIP in Hell. I've seen them die like that in person. But the Red Bridge is getting bigger and bigger. My contact in Latvia tells me the Russians are getting to kill more people like 9/11.The American KGB is everywhere. Especially in your mental institutiuons, if not in your Mass Media. In cluding your internet now since the reforms on the FCC took place. I did my diplomacy with China just to give them the chance the Italians don't have. But you've got Sembler's as ambassadors to Italy and you can count on it hitting here too big-time. I'm just glad I read the word and studied it before it disappeared from my possesion. You all won't have a bible to read. IF this Republic is to be fully established. I've got a woman from the Nixon years on a cabinet position. I'm not worried. I'm going to survive. I don't have to die and I can live a long-time and they are not going to torchure me anymore. I'm financially set and ready for more chaos. Oh by the way I did alert microsoft about 9/11 before it happened but all of the sudden I got screwed over by my psychiatrist doctor Magnus. DR. Ryan Magnus. He loves China too. SOB even gave me zyprexa with no side effect pill. If you want to get a dose of Americanism just look at the brainwashing the free-world does. Some guy who rules Italy has all the media controlled. People are still without jobs and are not being taken care of. You can call me "psychotic" all you want. I consider it one of my gifts. YOU don't have.Take me off of all my medicine and you'd be surprized how many things I can do for real. I've seen the man-child. I've been baptized by water at 1 years old. Spirit at 18 and fire somewhere along the lines of early thirties. I've still got a lot of time left. And I don't have to die. You can disable me with your chemicals but you know I've got my own back ups for liver maintenence and I've also got a lifetime pension.What am I worried about. I'm not going anywhere.As long as I don't submit to  Madonna the "double D", and avoid Betty Cracker and her gang of perverts I'm safe. She fought her way outa the Seed and joined the mob. Her kid is a hot man from the mafia and I've had his whole operation in check for years. As for my brother? I could be glad he stays in Montana. He had a dose of the "Kid" who is on his way back here to find himself taken into custody when he gets off the bus. He's a sociopath. Just like just dad John T. Addis.Only John Russell Addis has arryan tatoos on his face and snitch tatooes from New York for more drug smuggling. He' a con man and just will be nothing but an HIV fuck-boy.He had his chance several times. He blew it everytime. You know what? That could have been one of the individuals that could have used my chair at the Seed. It's not there anymore. I've no time for a democracy as it is written down and not amended to protect it's citizens and give us a free media.What are you complaining about me for? Go out and buy a VOOM sattelite television system.The dollar crunch is over. Buy Chinese. It's as open a market as it can be right now. Take advantage. Freedom? HA! In your mind. That's all you need. If you haven't been studying and seeking well I'm really sorry. I have. Watch who sponsor's you so called "slime oozing out of your television sets".If you visit them your just feeding the machine more and more. oil? HA my last guardian was sckull and crossbones. A real Irish Republican Episcapalean bastard.I learned enough to know a few of his ways and some insider news. The fucker even tried to get me to market rain. What a fucking joke. You can't buy rain. That cocksucker even had the balls to eject when I quit covering my ass and came clean. Yeah, He's a war criminal too. Bombed the Holy Shit outa Japan. That's how deep Kernal Douglas Bell was in his trip. He was a soda jerk too. One greedy banker that abused my rights. Doesn't even know he's a gentile. Psychotic ravings? Ha! I got eyes, I got ears. I got a mouth that works quite well on automatic pilot. If you've no clairavoyance or never left this planet or seen the depths of Hell and came back alive for a newv sta4rt you just haven't bottomed out yet. If your using...............count on bottoming out. Just make sure you got somebody to care for your comatose body before you get back.And don't slash your wrists either. That way they win. You lose.Reality hits hard. You never know when the scales will tip. That's reference to real sincere suicide. It's not pre-meditated. I happen to like being a Socialist. I got the fucking national guard protecting my residence after some Haitian voodoo cult tried to kill my ass. His name is Ron Reinhardt Jr. and his wife Laura. In a freaking crooked hotel room in Clearwater beach. Why? They think they've got it made. I still get psychic battery from them all. The Richard Elliot Band? Oh please kill the fuckers. Those brothers aren't that faboulas.I knew them when they started out. I was their first bassman. Jazz-snobs and smooth jazz freaks. Elevator trash. Like breaking fool money with all that magick behind it and the phoney story lines before every song. You like elevator music? I don't. People pay to watch this. And it even sells, but I'm telling you the boyz in the band just are copycats on techniues and titles. Nothing original about either one of those boys. Plaguerist in their early days.Ever seen a "Sound Barrier" set at a lounge, or a dance club you'd be amazed at what tricks were up their sleeves. I'm just glad I don't have to jump through hoops for them phoney baloneys.The show is all fake.SR. is a veteran. Navy school of music.Real nanny goat musician. "Norm's Place" in Clearwater. The place for suckers.

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Rant on, Dude!  Every time I think I'm going nuts, I read your posts and feel relatively sane.  Thank you for providing such a wonderful public service.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2005, 09:38:00 PM »
Wes FAKER
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2005, 09:51:00 PM »
This shit is too wrong and if people feel like he's not doing what he should do for our cause then maybe they should get out there and do something. Real easy for people to be so critcal of someone when they are being arm chair activists.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2005, 12:32:00 AM »
It is true that Wes Fager's website is 95% garbage.
He is hurting our cause plain and simple.
I can dog him all I want because he puts his shit out there and I have every right to critique it.
Any good info on Fager's website is overshadowed by the enormous amount of garbage and even lies about unrelated stuff.
His website is titled TheStraights,but he writes a bunch of garbage that has nothing to do with Straight-like programs,and provides links to trash websites.
If I directed someone to look at his website in order to learn about what we experienced in straight-like programs,they would never be able to wade through the garbage to find the info.
You have not picked your ass up out of your armchair and provided any evidence that what I am saying is not true.
Wes Fager has hurt our cause.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2005, 01:13:00 AM »
creepy. i just went there, because i wanted to see for myself before i posted any type of response. Wes has a link to a website that has nothing to do with Straight and everything to do with penis enlargement... another link i just checked out is disturbing... going back to see if those two are flukes... a link to a another site that will, if anyone should click on it, immediately give them a certain impression of the source of the link...

okay. surprising even myself by saying this: i agree. Wes' site could very well be discrediting our cause. i am disgusted by it.

i have been referring people to isaccorp.org, which is very organized, they are also careful to post factual verified evidence. I also refer people to http://www.heal-online.org/#teen, although the name Human Earth Animal Liberation is going to be a little sticky granola to many people, I think.  
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2005, 01:16:00 AM »
Then make a website you feel is better anon.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2005, 01:58:00 AM »
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 Wes has a link to a website that has nothing to do with Straight and everything to do with penis enlargement


The penis pump story was an attempt to bring publicity to Straight founder, Mel Sembler. So far, it seems to be not working. Sembler keeps dodging it. But it was a valliant and creative attempt. I could dis Rich for a lot of things, but not for this.

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