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[Anonymous]

PURE doesn't own any escort service and isn't part owner of any program?  Sure about that?

[BuzzKill]

Yeah, I wonder about that as well.
I used to make the same argument Lee just made - but I would never say the same now.

Lee - One Child at a Time - What? Saved from abuse and neglect in "programs"? Any program? Or just the ones that don't pay your pal?

Never mind.

You've gone a long way towards answering these questions with your actions.

You need to drop the pretence. All it does is accentuate the sham.

[Anonymous]

All one needs to know about PURE and Sue Scheff is in the WWASPS v. PURE documents.

Let's just hope she's come to her senses and no longer refers to programs that do not pass the giggle test

I mean come on!  The lady can afford to take a pass on a program and it's owner awaiting arraignment for abusing kids.

At least .. one would think so, wouldn't they?

 :silly:

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-28 08:48:00, BuzzKill wrote:

"Yeah, I wonder about that as well.

I used to make the same argument Lee just made - but I would never say the same now.



Lee - One Child at a Time - What? Saved from abuse and neglect in "programs"? Any program? Or just the ones that don't pay your pal?



Never mind.



You've gone a long way towards answering these questions with your actions.



You need to drop the pretence. All it does is accentuate the sham."

Lee isn't fooling anybody BK with his save the children crap.

 :flame:

[Anonymous]

[QUOTE}dollar wise; i'd bet somewhere between 89,991,000 & 90,000,000! i heard someone mention a figure earlier today. wwasps since it's inception has reached the billion-dollar plateau in net income.

biggest difference; wwasp owns referral agencies, escort services, property & programs. pure doesn't own any of the above but is a referral agency! [/QUOTE}

What difference does that make? They both send kids to unregulated programs. Big guy vs. little guy....so what.  It is still the teens that get hurt, not either of them.

[Anonymous]

Think some kid being abused cares if his parents sent him to a WWASPIE program or some "NICER" place picked by Sue Scheff and PURE? It still hurts like hell!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Man, it almost seems like referral agents are referring to programs where there is abuse, just not the kind of abuse they associate with WWASPS, their competition?

That's twisted, isn't it?

Abuse is abuse. Simple as that.

[Anonymous]

What kind of abuse "that is associated with WWASP" is any different than what happened at Whitmore Academy?
Think if I was a kid, I might just as soon have some pepper spray in my face as have MRS. Sudweeks throw me down a steep flight of stairs.
Being age 14, and being tied and gagged so a group of teenage boys can beat the hell out of you at the direction of this same woman, as she and her husband watch---sound any worse than a WWASP deal?
Whitmore has it's SHELF too--being put on the "shelf" for a week or so is no picnic: especially when your food is served topped with students's spit.
Sue Scheff of PURE still defends these owners today...will swear all the above is all lies, because that's probably  what the Sudweeks tell HER, and that's what she chooses to believe.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-28 20:09:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What kind of abuse "that is associated with WWASP" is any different than what happened at Whitmore Academy?

Think if I was a kid, I might just as soon have some pepper spray in my face as have MRS. Sudweeks throw me down a steep flight of stairs.

Being age 14, and being tied and gagged so a group of teenage boys can beat the hell out of you at the direction of this same woman, as she and her husband watch---sound any worse than a WWASP deal?

Whitmore has it's SHELF too--being put on the "shelf" for a week or so is no picnic: especially when your food is served topped with students's spit.

Sue Scheff of PURE still defends these owners today...will swear all the above is all lies, because that's probably  what the Sudweeks tell HER, and that's what she chooses to believe. "

These Ed Consultants and Referral Agencies (like PURE) should err on the side of caution and SUSPEND all referrals to programs under investigation, particularly when charges have been filed and a trial is pending.

Those ed cons and referral agencies that do not suspend referrals should ask themselves what is the harm in erring on the side of caution?  

After all, we aren't talking about toasters ... we are talking about children.

 :flame:

[Nihilanthic]

PURE AFAIK makes 200K a year on referrals, so why the fuck would Sue stop riding her little cash cow?

Moralizing, with the force of law or coercion, is a
far greater crime against the constitutional principles of our nation than unauthorized euphoria, regardless of the substance involved, be it chocolate or heroin.
--James