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« on: April 13, 2005, 05:11:00 PM »
Well, survivors showed up in specially made t-shirts, made by a seventeen year old girlfriend of a survivor.
The room was small, some press and in walk Millsie oops Rev Miller dressed in full priestly attire. In tow, with Miller were three attorneys. Who had been hired on Monday and appeared to me to be unprepared.
Miller strolled in thinking I think that he had escaped any survivors at this one. He looks in the room and then saw them. Marti and Richard with their shirts on, a spouse of a survivor with a survivor supporter shirt on, a federal officer, friend of the survivors.
Then of course there was a deputy in the room as well.
Basically, it went like this.
City - You failed to comply, you admit you failed to comply , we sent you a notice, you admit you received the notice - City rest.
Millers side attempted to admit into evidence a document (permit) oopsie what they admitted was an application for a permit not the actual permit, so they scuddled around for a bit to find a piece of paper that had the permit on it. Then a young attorney began the story of Millers right to freedom of religion. That he had the right to display what was not in compliance based on freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Snooze,,,,,,, anyway according to the attorney the only way around the freedom of religion thing was to claim a problem or threat to community safety, welfare, etc. Ug umm , We can do that... thought one survivor.
So the ruling is this- the attorneys have until a week or so from now to turn in a brief discussing the powers of the master and the city has until May 8th. Then the special master will decide and then Miller has ten days from then (if it goes against him) to come into compliance and then will receive a fine of 100 a day. Miller said and I quote " I wouldn?t sneeze at 100.00 a day. Funny comment coming from someone fresh out of bankruptcy.
Now, the survivors know its all a mute point because on April 29th he stands to loose the property to the bankruptcy trustee.
Now, Miller stated in bankruptcy that he had 97 cents. Yes, CENTS in his checking account . However , this week he put all new siding on his large 2 story home. Hmmmmmmmm...
Oh and the best part Millers face was tomato red through the whole hearing. He tried desperately to stare Marti and Richard down but to know avail, Marti had a hard time keeping a smirk off her face as she was thinking, what a mute point this is. Richard was returning the stares letting Miller know he could not be intimidated.
You all know that red face he gets right..

Oh and at the end, he wouldn't come out of the room. The meeting was adjourned and certain press and others were waiting to take pictures of him. Marti and Richard were talking in the hall and Miller would not come out of the room. Guess he put himself in time out. Then later the city officials, Millers attorneys and Miller stayed in the room we THINK to work a deal we don't know yet.
Certain neighbors were there too. One of whom told me that only recently Miller had tried to put a restraining order on him of course it was thrown out of court but that?s Miller if you don?t think he?s God restraining order for you. Good try but didn?t work.

Sincerely
Straight Survivor
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2005, 05:19:00 PM »
I am quite amused
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2005, 05:26:00 PM »
Points of interest to whomever,

Last meeting Miller claimed it was a residential property.

This meeting - Miller flat out said "It's commerical property.

Last Meeting - Miller said , we only hold meetings there occassionaly a "couple of times a year".

This meeting - There are meetings everyday (the attorney said that)

He could have appealed the violation when they cited him, he didnt.
He could have took it to another court if he thought it was consitutional issue and he SHOULD have done that prior to this hearing.
He could have appealed the Special Masters decision from last time, he didnt.

He also according to the city doesnt have a building permit and is in violation with the county STILL.
But the county must enforce that.

He said that in this meeting that the coupla cost only a 300.00 or so which made exempt from a permit or whatever. Last meeting the couple cost several thousand dollars.

What a tangle web you weave Miller.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2005, 05:30:00 PM »
With all the lies , and he took an oath when he testified cant someone from the city site him for lying under oath,,, jeez
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2005, 05:34:00 PM »
Hang on pics coming
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2005, 05:51:00 PM »
Thank you to all the Florida people that won't let this issue be swept under the carpet. Thank you Ginger for this site to help connect all of us. :tup:
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am looking for people who survived Straight in Plymouth, Michigan. I miss a lot of people there and wonder what happened and would like to stay in touch.

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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2005, 06:55:00 PM »
PICS still coming???
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2005, 06:58:00 PM »
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On 2005-04-13 14:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Points of interest to whomever,



Last meeting Miller claimed it was a residential property.



This meeting - Miller flat out said "It's commerical property.



Last Meeting - Miller said , we only hold meetings there occassionaly a "couple of times a year".



This meeting - There are meetings everyday (the attorney said that)



He could have appealed the violation when they cited him, he didnt.

He could have took it to another court if he thought it was consitutional issue and he SHOULD have done that prior to this hearing.

He could have appealed the Special Masters decision from last time, he didnt.



He also according to the city doesnt have a building permit and is in violation with the county STILL.

But the county must enforce that.



He said that in this meeting that the coupla cost only a 300.00 or so which made exempt from a permit or whatever. Last meeting the couple cost several thousand dollars.



What a tangle web you weave Miller."


Where's the DA in all this?  Virgil made these statements under oath, didn't he?  Isn't that perjury?
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2005, 10:29:00 PM »
yeah, where's the DA, find out about the perjury thing, sounds like a project. is anyone else going to research this one?
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