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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2005, 07:07:00 PM »
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"Okay coward..My name is there...You must not have the conviction of your words to put your name there..So..You have zero credit to anyone who would be rationale......Anyways.. I'm getting zero from the Hintons.. I don't need or want anything from them. I wouldn't accept a dime period. Now or ever. I will say that the Boonville police were hit by a barage from questionable sources, and leaned on by council members with good nee jerk reflexes to hold off sanctioning till they can wade through what's bull and what isn't..And folks have been slinging a lot of bull. Had you stuck to fact, your arguement probably would carry a ton more weight. Again, I'm not closed, but no one's put in front of me what I consider to be facts...........And you condone the coward who posts annon against me, so, you all play nice. Till you can edit them out, or I know who I'm talking to, i woun't have further communications with any of you. Sweet job-! You just alienated the one person for this deal that would likely give you a fair shake.. M. Farrell."


What about what i told you before the meeting. Also what about the CD ROM i gave you before the meeting and the DVD ROM. I explained it all to you even. Did you even look at the stuff i gave you?
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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2005, 07:33:00 PM »
Well Devlin - he can't say he wasn't warned, can he.

I wondered if he had had access to any of the pertnint info. It appears you made sure he did.

Thanks for your efforts.
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2005, 08:47:00 PM »
Nother question for M. Farell. Where did you get the idea that WWASP won against PURE?

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« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2005, 11:20:00 AM »
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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2005, 11:42:00 AM »
Congressman raises questions about Kemper suitor


By JOHN SULLIVAN of the Tribune?s staff
Published Wednesday, April 13, 2005
A U.S. congressman from California says Boonville city officials should have "serious reservations" about selling the Kemper Military School property to associates of a controversial network of international boarding schools.

Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., warned that Boonville should "get the facts first" before accepting a purchase offer from Robert Lichfield, founder of World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools, or WWASPS.

"While many residential treatment facilities do provide good quality services for children, there is a long history of allegations of mistreatment of minors at campuses operated by the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs," Miller said in an e-mail to the Tribune. "The City of Boonville should have serious reservations about the sale of city property to an organization with such an egregious record of child abuse complaints."

Officials of Miller?s office said the congressman has not contacted the city of Boonville directly.

Lichfield and his associate, Randall Hinton, a former director of schools under Lichfield?s network, have proposed buying the Kemper property and opening a military-style school for difficult teens. A purchase contract sits before the Boonville City Council, and Boonville officials confirmed last week that they received a deposit check for $100,000 signed by Lichfield.

The council voted last week to delay making a decision on the sale until a public hearing. The meeting, held Monday night, drew a crowd of local residents who asked pointed questions of Lichfield?s associates.

Boonville police recommended a thorough investigation into Lichfield, his association and Hinton, who would operate the school with his brother, Russell Hinton. A preliminary investigation by the department found WWASPS schools appear to "regularly engage in physical restraint of children including the use of pepper spray, handcuffs, duct tape and wooden boxes to isolate the children."

Hinton acknowledged using pepper spray at a WWASPS school in Jamaica eight years ago. He described it as a two-month experiment that failed to subdue violent children.

Miller is the ranking Democrat on the House Committee on Education and the Workforce. The Department of Justice has turned down repeated requests by his committee to investigate WWASPS.

Miller?s office has described the organization as a St. George, Utah-based umbrella organization that oversees seven behavior modification programs in the United States and two abroad. The schools, formerly known as Teen Help, treat about 2,200 children at a cost of $30,000 to $50,000 in tuition and fees. At least eight affiliated schools and related programs have closed or been shut down since the mid-1990s.

A 2003 letter from Miller?s office to former Attorney General John Ashcroft alleges the association engaged in "human rights violations, fraudulent and deceptive advertising, fraud and unjust enrichment under the Internal Revenue Code."

So far, only one allegation against a staff member or official of WWASPS-affiliated schools has resulted in a criminal conviction. And many parents whose children have undergone treatment at the schools vouch for their effectiveness in transforming often severely troubled children. These parents claim that had it not been for the schools, their children would be dead or in prison.

Groups who oppose the programs claim they indoctrinate parents and children to worship tough-love ideals that can transform behavior but leave psychological scars. No professional, long-term studies on the psychological and emotional impact of WWASPS programs on children have been conducted.

Ashcroft and his successor, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, have said they lack jurisdiction to investigate privately owned schools. Miller, however, cites an investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer into an alleged assault of a teen at Ivy Ridge, a WWASPS-affiliated school near Ogdensburg, N.Y. "The powers of the U.S. Attorney General are hardly more constrained than those of" state "officials," Miller wrote in a May 2004 letter.

Justice department spokesman Bryan Sierra said his office does not comment on cases with no charges or public records of crimes.

WWASPS President Ken Kay said he does not oppose tighter regulation of his programs but that such regulation should be conducted at the state and local level.

Kay called his schools "specialty programs" that succeed where government programs fail. "The federal regulation of the juvenile system and public schools as a whole has been less than effective in dealing with the youth population we deal with," he said.



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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2005, 11:52:00 AM »
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"Nahhh I think you're just a coward is all..probably a liar too...Yep. M.Farrell"


Talk about a "coward" and a "liar."  You don't have the guts to admit you have a connection to these folks, so you lie.  Take a look in the mirror.

You're pretty brave when posting on the internet, but I think more-or-less, you're pretty weak-minded and gutless and probably wouldn't say "peep" to me if you were in front of me.


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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2005, 08:22:00 AM »
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On 2005-04-13 11:26:00, Antigen wrote:

"and now that stuff about getting flight training for his would-be students through J Atkin's little airline."

Did I miss something?  Where did you hear that?
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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2005, 09:38:00 AM »
"Hinton plans to offer courses in aviation, food handling, CPR and other areas of vocation training. "How great will it be for our kids to go home with a high school diploma and a pilot's license," he said. "That'd be awesome."

 source: http://www.boonvilledailynews.com/artic ... /news2.txt

"J. Ralph Atkin, the founder of SkyWest Airlines, is listed in Commerce
Department records as the registered agent for Cross Creek Manor, Red Rock
Academy, the two limited partnerships that own Teen Help, R & B Billing (which
provides financial services for the programs) and Browning Academy. The state
also lists him as a trustee of WWASP, although he has denied that recently. And
he has been quoted by Associated Press as saying that he was a co-owner of
Morava Academy, the Czech Republic program that was shut down last year."


source: http://isaccorp.org/wwasps/wwaspreport.pdf
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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2005, 09:43:00 AM »
And how about this little coincidence?

http://www.topflightacademy.com/index.php

Mailing address:

Top Flight Academy
PO Box 145
Mt. Pleasant, UT 84647
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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2005, 09:47:00 AM »
The same type of curriculum Randall Hinton proposed in his meeting last Monday night in Boonville. Positive Peer Culture (PPC aka Lord of the Flies) with the opportunity to earn an aviation license too!

Wow!  :roll:
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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2005, 11:50:00 AM »
:idea: I have worked with children in a classroom setting, disabled children in a hospital setting and teens in a facility setting for a total of over fifteen years.  I listened to what the Hintons said at the council meeting.  I know what it's like for a teen to not have structure or feel that anyone cares about them.  I've seen first hand what a setting like Kemper Military School & College can do to create a person we can all be proud to call friend, co-worker or family.  
I'm asking that the Hintons be given a chance to open this boarding school and use the name of Kemper Military School.  They can open it as any name and it will always be known as formerly KMS anyway. I've read their business plan and organizational plan and witnessed Randall Hinton tell the citizens of Boonville (that bothered to show up to the meetings) that they will not use duct tape, restraints or pepper spray. I hope the "affiliation" with wwasps and Robert Lichfield are no more than a "My hairdresser has a cousin that has a sister in jail" situation.  From what I see the Hintons want to run a school that is NOT wwasps for a reason.  Many businesses are started with one worker setting out to make a better business or in this case school.
Boonville already has Valley Hope and I know suicidal, drug addicted teens that were sent there.  According to the Hinton?s plan they will not be accepting such teens.  Does Boonville think its citizens will allow any abuse to go on at any school?  The Hintons have promised an open door policy and I for one will be checking up on them often and I hope Boonville citizens have the same courage to do so for any school boarding ours or anyone else?s youth.  
I saw a lady on my street just the other day tell a reporter she didn?t want anything to open at KMS.  This is the kind of ignorance we deal with every day here.  Do they think nothing is going to open there?  Do they think we?ll have much of a say so?  I hope if the Hintons open a school it will be something to be proud of and something that will bring jobs and consumers to Boonville.
As for the Kemper Alumni Association and it's secretary, Mr. Farrell. They should probably put it to a vote about the use of the name they are so proud of and let them decide.
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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2005, 12:38:00 PM »
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" :idea: I have worked with children in a classroom setting, disabled children in a hospital setting and teens in a facility setting for a total of over fifteen years.  I listened to what the Hintons said at the council meeting.  I know what it's like for a teen to not have structure or feel that anyone cares about them.  I've seen first hand what a setting like Kemper Military School & College can do to create a person we can all be proud to call friend, co-worker or family.  

I'm asking that the Hintons be given a chance to open this boarding school and use the name of Kemper Military School.  They can open it as any name and it will always be known as formerly KMS anyway. I've read their business plan and organizational plan and witnessed Randall Hinton tell the citizens of Boonville (that bothered to show up to the meetings) that they will not use duct tape, restraints or pepper spray. I hope the "affiliation" with wwasps and Robert Lichfield are no more than a "My hairdresser has a cousin that has a sister in jail" situation.  From what I see the Hintons want to run a school that is NOT wwasps for a reason.  Many businesses are started with one worker setting out to make a better business or in this case school.

Boonville already has Valley Hope and I know suicidal, drug addicted teens that were sent there.  According to the Hinton?s plan they will not be accepting such teens.  Does Boonville think its citizens will allow any abuse to go on at any school?  The Hintons have promised an open door policy and I for one will be checking up on them often and I hope Boonville citizens have the same courage to do so for any school boarding ours or anyone else?s youth.  

I saw a lady on my street just the other day tell a reporter she didn?t want anything to open at KMS.  This is the kind of ignorance we deal with every day here.  Do they think nothing is going to open there?  Do they think we?ll have much of a say so?  I hope if the Hintons open a school it will be something to be proud of and something that will bring jobs and consumers to Boonville.

As for the Kemper Alumni Association and it's secretary, Mr. Farrell. They should probably put it to a vote about the use of the name they are so proud of and let them decide.  

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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2005, 01:17:00 PM »
If the Hinton's are so entrusting to open the school.   Let them do it with their own money, not backing from Litchfield and the connections to WWASP.
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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2005, 01:28:00 PM »
If you were a sixteen year old girl, and a teenage boy promised you he would respect you in the morning, and that he really loved you and wasn't just trying to get in your pants, and that if you took all your clothes and he took off his that he just wanted to lie down with you like that and didn't want to do anything else and wouldn't try anything else, would you *really* believe him.

You appear to have never even considered the possibility that Hinton may be lying through his teeth, or what your recourse (or lack of it) would or will be if he is.

He's saying, in effect, "Trust me."  And you're buying it.

You are, in my opinion, a very foolishly gullible person.

If you were (hypothetically) sixteen, and your parents allowed you to date, with that level of credulity I wouldn't be the least surprised if you were pregnant and abandoned inside of two years.

"...the maid who mistakes my meaning will not be maid longer less things be made shorter...." -- Willy Shake Spear.

I strongly advise you to *never* answer any emails from Nigerians or that promise you chunks of Saddam's money.

"He says he won't use duct tape or restraints or pepper spray."

Well la dee da.  Didn't you ever learn anything from the times people have lied to you in your life?

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