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« on: April 10, 2005, 10:19:00 AM »
Well first of ive never been to one of these WWASP type programs but i have always had a morbid fascination with cults.  I first heard about these programs when the news was talking about that kid Chase Moody who died not too far from my hometown, and lately i started reading about it and some of these testimonies literally made my stomach turn, even more than seeing a really cute suburb girl hanging out with a crapped out van full of smelly thugs, causing me to close the browser and think to myself "im not reading this crap ever again".  But then lo and behold im back at ISAC reading more of this horrid shit.  

Anyways, while i dont have the audacity to claim that im an expert on cults quite yet, i think i can legitamately say that these "teen help" deals are, indeed, cults.  And reading some of the program literature just reminds me more and more of some of the methods Charles Manson used to get those girls to do his bidding.  Really, the only differences are that Manson was basically frowned upon by society and that he didnt have political support for his race war theory.  Unfortunately these programs do have political support from the zealot faction and they seem to constantly play the religion card to avoid gov't oversight.  Kind of the same way Satanism's main purpose is to be a religious excuse to do whatever you want no matter how macabre.

The major similarity between them i noticed, and many cults seem to do this exact thing, is how they use socially acceptable terms to describe acts that arent too acceptable.  Instead of "bringing people into the now" (I.E. shooting stabbing and bludgeoning nine people to death) they seem to use "behavior modification"(mind control) and "restraint"(child abuse) along with a nice optimistic outlook on their dirty deeds to convince impressionable, ignorant, and wealthy mothers to make their kids however they want them to be and to, above all, to spend spend spend their childrens way to eternal salvation.  Kind of like christmas.  

Of course reading this perticular forum a bit has only proven my theory more.  Really, why would random people come here and insult the people who went through these programs and have seen and experiences abuses?  People seem to come in here to share their experiences with other people who experienced the same thing, while possibly getting their message out to the rest of the world, and because of that random people have to come here and insult them while staunchly defending the very thing they experienced.  And of course every one has a singld digit number of posts yet every one says the exact same thing.  This doesnt seem to happen to anyone else, but it really makes me convinced that something is going on here and, whatever it is, its just wrong.

On the other hand i really cant help but laugh at the fact that this is really only happening to rich kids, and, for the first time ever, i think im glad my family has never had much money.  I just kind of sit here reading these stories from former students and compare the way i was in middle and high school to the way the kids who get sent to these programs were.  Also comparing myself to the way the parents on strugglingteens describe their kids and it makes me feel like i got away with a hell of a lot.  That just because my parents didnt have $5,000 a month to spend on stuff like this, i was able to spend my teen years living like some kind of hairband rock star, living a life of total excess for years while making sure i would deffinately burn in hell if it exists, without any repercussions what so ever.  I think about how, as a teenager, while i was doing everything so wrong while systematically pushing it as far as i possibly could, that a lot of people were getting sent to these places for what seems like nothing more than a "bad attitude" or getting caught with some weed or something like that.  None of the truly evil kids ever disapeared.  I even once looked at this checklist that one of those WWASP sites had that was supposed to determine whether your kid needs to be put in a place like that and litereally every single one of those deals you check off could describe, by my estimate, at least 80% of people that age.  Basically theyre reccomending that 80% of teenagers need that program to avoid jail, but i couldnt help but notice that 80% of the population isnt in jail.  

I dont get it, it just seems like anyone whose older than 18 could realize that we all did really stupid things when we were in middle and high school and that the vast majority of us have grown out of it and are doing just fine for ourselves.  I guess i just want to apologize or something, i dont know, it just seems unfair that a lot of people were suffering because of their parents paranoia while my parents were doing nothing but defending my actions every time i did something to get in trouble.  If youve read this far, i thank you.  Im sure it was obvious, based on my words somehow, from the very beginning, that i was not ever in one of these programs, but i think this point really needs to be made.  These behavior modification programs and their unrealistically high enrollment rates are just proof that a lot of people really need to take some kind of human decency test to determine whether they actually deserve the oxygen of the earth they waste, let alone whether they deserve to have their sperm mutated into children.

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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2005, 10:37:00 AM »
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On 2005-04-10 07:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Really, why would random people come here and insult the people who went through these programs and have seen and experiences abuses?  People seem to come in here to share their experiences with other people who experienced the same thing, while possibly getting their message out to the rest of the world, and because of that random people have to come here and insult them while staunchly defending the very thing they experienced.



To graduate a lot of the programs, you are put in a position to treat other kids at the facility like shit. Once you hit upper levels, or whatever the program you are in calls it, you are basically a staff member against the newer, or lower level kids. I think the graduates spend a lot of time and energy justifying the program philosophy because they projected it on others at the facilities. Guilt can be a powerful motivator! When they come on here and attack dropouts, people who chose to leave or were pulled, they still talk as if we are in the program, and on the lower levels. They're 'behavior modification' (brainwashing, reprogramming, etc) is pretty clear. They try to shut down your critical thinking and common sense. You notice it's only the ones fresh out of the program, within a few years of getting out? I wonder why?

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On the other hand i really cant help but laugh at the fact that this is really only happening to rich kids, and, for the first time ever, i think im glad my family has never had much money.

You know what's sad, these crooks scam parents without enough money. Parents without 4 or 5 grand extra in cash laying around per month, have to sell cars, clean our their retirement, take out another mortgage or even a loan. Medical insurance doesn't cover these places, becaues they are not a treatment facility!  But you're totally right, a lot of kids there have wealthy parents, which sucks even more in that situation because you know they can keep you there forever. Better if your parents are barely scraping by when they put you there, they might run out of money- and then you are sent home!

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I dont get it, it just seems like anyone whose older than 18 could realize that we all did really stupid things when we were in middle and high school and that the vast majority of us have grown out of it and are doing just fine for ourselves."


You'd think, huh?  :roll:
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2005, 10:39:00 AM »
Oh yeah, don't forget the other thing parents without enough money do to keep their kid in the program. They start referring other kids to programs to get free months for their own kid. Those parents are the scum of the earth.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2005, 01:26:00 PM »
On the topic of "rich kids", minors are rarely
rich unless they're entertainers covered by the
Jackie Coogan Law, and even then the parents have
control until the kid turns 18. It's the parents
who are rich. And because financial aid is tied
the parent's income the parents can retain control
beyond the 18th birthday.

A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another; shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement
http://laissezfairebooks.com/product.cfm?op=view&pid=FF7485&aid=10247' target='_new'>Thomas Jefferson  

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