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« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2005, 10:42:00 AM »
While Casa by the Sea was still opened,Dace had opened a "school" in California called Bell Academy.  Bell was requeste by State officials to become properly licensed to operate in California. they would not,therefore they were asked to do business elsewhere.
One would wonder why does the organization not want to be properly licensed ?

Anon, you are new at acquiring information about this organization.It wil be come apparent to you too when you talk honestly with your child with out staff standing over his/ her shoulder.
Good luck.

BTW  Dace's personal thug ,jason f is under the microscope in New York for the many allegations against his Ivy Ridge. My my my what a coincidence? Once a thug, always a thug.
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« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2005, 12:56:00 PM »
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"I was enrolled at darrington academy if neone has ai im hidinoutforsp07 AND  i will tell u nething and all i know and help you with all i can..."


I would very much like to speak to you, we have a family friend in there- I will look for you on AIM - I am usually only online during the day - try and sign on soon.
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« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2005, 01:40:00 PM »
I still wonder if any of you have actually visited this school.  Other than the kid who can't spell...who obviously needs to be in school
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« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2005, 02:21:00 PM »
Or, who chooses IM spelling in a casual environment.  *I* understood him.

Our nation's founding fathers "couldn't spell" either.

I think that instead of a "development" in English, standardized spelling may turn out to be merely a phase.

It's not so much the kids that are driving the move to a descriptive rather than prescriptive spelling philosophy, it's globalization.  Hiberno English, Australo English, British English, and American English are all coming together in one big clash. The increasing number of people who learn English as a second language for trade purposes and internet communication purposes cannot fathom our bizarre spelling rules and it has become rude and ethnocentric to criticize their spelling on the Internet.

The antipathy to spelling flames on the Internet for English as a second language speakers has spread to dyslexic speakers, and young speakers, and now eventually to everyone.

I think it's a good thing.  *I* have professional-level grammar and spelling skills because I *am* a professional.  I write for money.  Other people shouldn't be silenced just because they don't want to take the time to run to a dictionary or run a spell checker in a highly casual environment.

The only reason I haven't driven up to Blue Ridge, driven past Darrington, and talked to the townspeople about it is because a) I have a life and b) I couldn't get out and walk around the grounds and see what I could see *anyway* as I'd doubtless be busted for trespassing.

That fact--that anyone critical of WWASPS attempting to "visit" would be subject to trespassing or harrasment allegations makes your question highly disingenuous.

*However* if the management wants to invite me up to let me wander around freely shooting photos of whatever I choose to share with the nice people over at ISAC, I only live a couple of hours away and I'd be glad to oblige.  As long as the timing doesn't conflict with my teaching duties either homeschooling my daughter or assistant teaching down at the dojo.

What, no offer?  Imagine that.

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« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2005, 02:22:00 PM »
Even though I'd expect the place to be spruced up that day, I'd go shoot the photos anyway because at least the kids would perhaps get *some* better treatment if only for that one day.

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« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2005, 04:49:00 PM »
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On 2005-05-06 10:40:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I still wonder if any of you have actually visited this school.  Other than the kid who can't spell...who obviously needs to be in school"


If you have done any research regarding any WWASPS school, they really tend not to focus on education, or anything else that might be worth while in the real world;  And not going there doesn't mean you can't be informed as to the practices of these so called schools.  I have spent countless hours researching all information on both sides of the fence and have come down on the side that says these so called acadamies are a farce. Their ONLY concern is the all mighty dollar.  If you read anything affiliated with them, especially the contracts, everything comes down to how much they money they can get from parents who get sucked in by their BS.  What do they get for the $3000 to $4000 parents pay, room & board?  Parents have to pay extra for therapy, $600.00 for uniforms and countless other things, that should be included in the heafty "tuition" they charge.  I would say that you are the one that needs to do some "homework".
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« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2005, 05:08:00 PM »
PS:  No one gets to "visit".  It is not like going to a real school and asking to see the campus.  They don't want anyone there without "permission", including parents, who should have the right to show up whenever they want to,  why is that?
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« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2005, 05:12:00 PM »
just people who are assuming things
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« Reply #68 on: May 07, 2005, 08:52:00 AM »
Is that really all you have to say?  Why don't you try and visit a school unannounced, especially if you have a family member enrolled. As with most things in life commmon sense will get you  far and serve you well.  If parents would do the research before they sent their kids to these kinds of places, in most cases, if they have any sort of intelligence and common sense, they would choose someplace else.  There are reputable schools, that are accredited in their respective states by the state (not ones that are independant and are created just to help bolster the gulag camps) out their for their "at risk" teens.  Even a good old fashioned REAL military school would be better, they teach discipline and respect, isn't that what most of these parents are looking for?  It wouldn't be easy either, but at least they would get a real education and real prospects for the future.
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« Reply #69 on: May 07, 2005, 09:50:00 AM »
Well, I have a neighbor with a child in this school.  They have an open door policy and I have driven her up there unannounced several times to check on her child spending 7-8 hours at a time at the school.  I have never seen ANY of the stuff that y'all say is going on and as a matter of a fact we observed most of the students day and found them to be happy and well and safe and the staff to be firm but friendly and completely accepting of our observation and willing to answer any and all questions.  Now, I do not doubt that there are other places who are in violation of all sorts of things but I feel that you are making unfair assumptions about a place that none of you have ever been to.  Of course I do feel that every one has a right to thier own opinion as I do mine and I respect that but I thought I would share my expierence of Darrington with you.
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« Reply #70 on: May 07, 2005, 11:21:00 AM »
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"...we observed most of the students day and found them to be happy and well and safe and the staff ...


Let me ask you this...you seem quite satisfied with your experience at Darrington, what brought you to this forum?  You would have found this only by looking for information about the school.  If your experience was good, what prompted your search? I am sure the school didn't  encourage you to search the internet for information, nor your friend.  It is, in fact, strongly discouraged, at the risk of getting the child expelled.  They do monitor these sights, and if they find any of their happy parents on here, they will receive a phone call warning them. That is a proven fact.
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« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2005, 11:23:00 AM »
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"They do monitor these sights, and if they find any of their happy parents on here, they will receive a phone call warning them. That is a proven fact."


That is nuts! Sounds like WWASP for sure. Out of curiosity, what could they do, what do they threaten them with?
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« Reply #72 on: May 07, 2005, 02:46:00 PM »
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On 2005-05-07 06:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Well, I have a neighbor with a child in this school.  They have an open door policy and I have driven her up there unannounced several times to check on her child spending 7-8 hours at a time at the school.  I have never seen ANY of the stuff that y'all say is going on and as a matter of a fact we observed most of the students day and found them to be happy and well and safe and the staff to be firm but friendly and completely accepting of our observation and willing to answer any and all questions.  Now, I do not doubt that there are other places who are in violation of all sorts of things but I feel that you are making unfair assumptions about a place that none of you have ever been to.  Of course I do feel that every one has a right to thier own opinion as I do mine and I respect that but I thought I would share my expierence of Darrington with you."


Okay, you just gave yourself away.

*Nobody* but a Program Drone says "my experience of."

It's program speak that's just not used in the Real World.

I'm a professional writer, I *notice* details of how different people and different groups use language.

You are *either* a Program Parent lying outright *or* you are a Program Parent or still programmed former program kid who is taking liberties with the term "neigbor."

Busted!!!! :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

If Darrington is really so open, get me an assurance from the person in charge that I can come up and wander their facility--invited and without getting sued or arrested, taking pictures to post on the internet via distribution to various groups (like ISAC) that have websites that track RTCs, and I will drive up with my digital camera (I'm not a professional photographer, just a writer, homeschooling mom, and housewife).

Put your money where your mouth is.  Get me an invite to come up some Saturday around ten-ish and, if my husband isn't working (he seldom works weekends) and can watch our daughter, I'll drive up (they're an hour away) and take photos.

Send me a private message and I will be glad to provide an address where they can send me a written invitation to visit and photograph their facility.  Yes, I and everyone else will presume that they, like anyone, will be presenting their best face for the cameras.  Still, enough people want photos that I'll do it anyway.

Put your money where your mouth is.  Otherwise, your program protestations are very obviously quite empty.

If I stepped a toe across their property line without a written invitation from the management for my records I'd be arrested or sued or both, and everyone on here knows darned well I would--because I'm a critic of the methods reportedly used at typical behavior modification facilities.

I'm readily available by PM on Fornits.  I live just an hour or two away from Darrington.  I'm calling your bluff.  I will need at least a week's notice prior to the invite date to make arrangements.

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« Reply #73 on: May 07, 2005, 03:14:00 PM »
If I can find the thing, I also would be more than happy to bring my battery-operated tape recorder that uses mini-tapes (the dictaphone type of tape) and type up an interview.

It would *not* be published in any major newspaper--unless they offer, since I am a science fiction author and not a journalist.  I do commentary that many people have liked well enough to suggest I seek a gig doing same, but I don't do columns for pay.

Still, while I would edit the interview for length and relevant content, because there would probably be more material than I was willing to type up, and I have never taken any journalism class, people who know me well know that even somebody I hated I would attempt to report on straight up and right down the middle.

I *would* seek commentary from program critics and survivors to balance the content.

If a news outlet offered to pick it up, either for pay or for a byline, I'd probably take them up on it and I'd want a signed release for the photos and interview saying you knew you were being recorded and I could use the stuff at my discretion and I would own the photos and content unrestrictedly.

But you can ask anybody on Baen's bar---even if I don't like somebody, if I'm talking about something that happened, I'm fairly good about sticking to the facts unless I am editorializing (which *is* usually what I do) and going straight up the middle on the facts.

If I quoted you or any of the students, I'd do it straight, just like if I was quoting for a research paper--same rules, straight brackets for inserted words, elipses where I edit out stuff, etc.

A straight interview and non-professional photo shoot from a critic is the best offer you're going to get from anyone.

I don't really need the money, and I'm not planning to actively shop it to magazines or newspapers, but I *am* a pro writer, so if some media outlet offered, I'd sell it at freelance rates, and you'd need to understand that up front.

Well, exception.  Amy has contacted me about something else, and I *would* ask her if her people would be interested, etc.  Which they might bite on if it's good and meets their standards, because there wouldn't be travel expenses because I'm local.

And you also need to understand that I *am* a critic and while I'll be what I believe is fair, fair has an unavoidable component of opinion.

There's the deal.  If you are as open as you say, you'll take it.  If you don't take it, the critics are going to know you aren't as open as you say.

You have my permission to print out my offer and forward it to the appropriate people at Darrington if you think there's any possibility of them following up.

Let me *also* say I expect imminent contract arrival on another collaborative novel and a solo series, and as an NYT bestselling author, even if *my* publisher unexpectedly declined, I anticipate no problem selling---hence even if I sold the article freelance, I expect it to be at a much reduced return on my writing time than I would get  versus working on either the collaboration or the first series book, and would thus represent me taking a loss on my time.  So it's about my personal interest in the issue, not money.  I'd *take* a sale to defray my costs, but I'd make more money turning out more words, in the same time, on one of my novels in the works.  Effectively, if I do it, even if it sells, I expect I'd be losing money on the deal.

Are you really that open?  Put up or, well, you don't have to shut up, but the credibility you're seeking by saying you're so open would be shot.

You won't get a better deal.

And as a professional writer who might do columns someday, or do other freelance articles, I have a vested interest in being straight-up fair--within the context that I obviously have an opinion and a writer's opinion inevitably colors her work, no matter how carefully she tries to be fair.  And, again, I *would* seek balancing comments from WWASPS critics.  But I have an obvious vested interest, as a pro, in doing the piece straight.

Take it or leave it.

Timoclea
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« Reply #74 on: May 08, 2005, 11:44:00 AM »
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You are *either* a Program Parent lying outright *or* you are a Program Parent or still programmed former program kid who is taking liberties with the term "neigbor."


Or they could be posting right from the Darrington location. Ya' just never know.

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