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Antigen:
Well, who are ya' gonna believe; me or your own lyin' eyes?

Really, anon, you give me too much credit. I don't have that kind of control over anybody.

As to whether or not an abuse complaint would bring down a questionable program in Utah, you must be joking! Here's a list of 77 children who have died in these programs:

http://mysite.verizon.net/res0g8bp/the8 ... /id74.html

Many of those programs are in or based in Utah and most of them are still in operation.


It (the Bible) is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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Antigen:
Case in point:

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... 78&forum=9


--- Quote ---Facility: DISTANT DRUMS
Contact: MARK WARDLE, EXEC DIRECTOR Phone: 435 6230548
Mail: PO BOX 96
NEPHI, UT 84648 County: JUAB
License: Type: Initial Begins: 2/22/2005 Ends: 5/31/2005
Service: Outdoor Youth Treatment Specific: YOUTH TX
Capacity: 30 Gender: Ages: 13 THROUGH 17 YEARS
Licensor:  Diana Robbins  

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So, even after the death of Ian Augus, Nephi, Utah doesn't have a problem w/ issuing a license to Mark Wardle again.

And this begs the question, what the hell does it take to earn the contempt of the Nephi PD as you folks claim you have done?

All religions have been made by men.
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor
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Anonymous:
Does make you wonder what the Sudweeks did to keep saying the Nephi Police hate them so much...even hate them bad enough to write what they call "fake police reports about them." HUH?

And that the people in Canada hate them, TOO.
And that the poeple in Mexico hate them, TOO.

Why that takes in the whole of NORTH AMERICA!!!

Just what have these people done to generate that much hate?

And this place Ginger posted actually were responsible for KILLING somebody, and good old Nephi still likes them!

Poor misunderstood Suds!

Antigen:
Look, in all fairness, it could be that WWASPS is throwing the Suds to the wolves. That doesn't automagically make the Suds blameless and saintly, though. And I think that's been the big misunderstanding. A LOT of people seem to have assumed that anybody who's at odds w/ WWASPS must be the good guys.

I never fell for that myself, but only because I remember Straight throwing Burns and Newton to the wolves a couple of decades ago. And I remember all the infighting between Art Barker and Straight.

No honor among thieves.

 
The weavers of linen and hempen cloth, ... may exercise their trades without paying any fine.
-- Adam Smith in The Wealth of Nations (chapter X, part II) notes:

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Joyce Harris:
What is that suppose to mean?

Do you then believe Ginger, that these children who are saying they were abused are WWASP people, or something?

That statement makes no sense to me, or probably to any parent who has children who are alleging abuse by the Sudweeks.

Who is "throwing the Sudweeks to the wolves?" People have valid complaints OTHER THAN THE ABUSE ISSUE TOO---the education issue, the therapy issues, the health issues, the lack of supervision. I don't think parents need anyone from WWASP or anywhere else to point these issues out to them. Most of us don't even know anyone from WWASP,and don't care to.

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