Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore
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Anonymous:
shut up joyce were getting sick of hearing your opinion
child abuser
why dont you spend your time on your daughter instead of on a useless website all day?
Thats the reason she turned out bad, if even bad, cuz you waste your time on stupid things like this. Go do something with your family for real
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-03-13 15:42:00, Anonymous wrote:
"shut up joyce were getting sick of hearing your opinion
child abuser
why dont you spend your time on your daughter instead of on a useless website all day?
Thats the reason she turned out bad, if even bad, cuz you waste your time on stupid things like this. Go do something with your family for real"
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And you're wasting your time on stupid things like this useless website because?
Anonymous:
i would have to agree there is alot of waisted time going on here. lady if you would get a life you wouldnt need to send your child away. was that the 3rd pprogram you took her out of. YES! is anybody good enough for you? or did you always just get worried she would tell them what she told child protection services in texas more than once. i think so i think thats why you hate cheryl so much. imagine what cheryl could tell us about what zita confided in her? so this is why you are trying to make her look bad. lady you are a vvery sick woman. maybe you should spend some money on yourself for some THERAPY. now that would be alot more than the 40 grand you keep belly acken about.
Anonymous:
that brings up my big problem. why do you guys keep complaining about. 40 grand, my parents spent over 70 grand then sent me to whitmore. then it was 25 grand. what happened there was awesome. i will never forget all the stuff we did. we went out to dinner at least once a week. we traveled all over. I learned to Skii i rode 4wheelers for the first time. i also broke one. who do you think paid for that? i kayacked in Mexico. I traveled all over Mexico. I spent the summer in Canada. I had my own horse that i learned to take care ofi DID get my diploma. it WAS accredited. i AM at a very good UNIVERSITY. my life IS great. i am NOT brainwashed. ETC...ETC..why do you keep LYING about these people. is it all about the money. well hello, maybe you should pay the going rate of 80,000. put it to pencil how much do you think it takes to run a place like they offer? get real. I know they made no money on me. cant imagine how they are paying their attorney fees because of your stupid accusations. non of your facts are straight. all of there teachers are accredited. The food is better than good. and most of the time awesome. cant please everyone. They sincerely care. why dont you listen or read what is being said. you want to think one thing and one thing only. it has been said before but you are such bad people. hope you dont get hit by a car tonight. i hate to think where youll end up with all the wrong you terrible people are doing to something as good as the Whitmore or the Sudweeks. hi Elliot. you are so right to stand up. im sure everyone loves you. i think you know that. when i start thinking like that or quilt trippen, i just remember what Cheryl used to tell us all the time. "to love someone is to see them as God intended" We all make mistakes. you gotto get up and get back on the right track. i am proud of you.
Cayo Hueso:
--- Quote ---On 2005-03-13 16:28:00, Anonymous wrote:
"that brings up my big problem. why do you guys keep complaining about. 40 grand,
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Well, the major complaint with the money is that the parents are not getting what Whitmore advertises. Who are the therapists at Whitmore? What are their qualifications? You're the first one that I've seen post stating that they got their diploma. Others have stated that they received little education, mostly self paced books. Who are the teachers there?
--- Quote ---why do you keep LYING about these people. is it all about the money. well hello, maybe you should pay the going rate of 80,000. put it to pencil how much do you think it takes to run a place like they offer? get real. I know they made no money on me. cant imagine how they are paying their attorney fees because of your stupid accusations.
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I don't think Mark and Cheryl are in this for the money. I've stated before that I think they actually believe in what they're doing. They think the end justifies the means. And from what I've seen posted about Cheryl (one from a former friend that apparently knew her for 20 years) she's very much into the control aspect of the program. What's all this we keep hearing about having group until the early morning hours because Cheryl can't sleep? We hear about how the mood of the house is dictated by Cheryl's moods. All of these things that we keep hearing from multiple people is wayyyyyyyyy too much like the programs we've seen before. It can't be that much of a coincidence. There IS a common thread here in the methodology of all of this. Explain what "having group on someone" is to me. That's smacks exactly of what we went through in Straight from what I've heard.
Once again, dialogue is the key here. You said in another post that we all need to stop bashing each other. Great! I agree. So, a dialogue seems like a good way for both of us to learn a little more about each others opinions.
--- Quote ---They sincerely care. why dont you listen or read what is being said. you want to think one thing and one thing only.
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We are[/b] listening. We're listening to you and all the others and things are not adding up. That's why we're asking you questions.
--- Quote ---it has been said before but you are such bad people. hope you dont get hit by a car tonight. i hate to think where youll end up with all the wrong you terrible people are doing to something as good as the Whitmore or the Sudweeks.
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Now that kind of statement is part of what I'm talking about. Not exactly the Christian values I would expect that you would be taught there.
Revelation indeed had no weight with me.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
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