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« on: March 03, 2005, 10:49:00 AM »
any truths?  who has the scoop?  scuttlebutt?
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2005, 11:09:00 AM »
Be news to me.

Where did you hear it?
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2005, 02:05:00 PM »
Haven't heard that. Wouldn't be surprised if it did.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2005, 02:24:00 PM »
why is that ms. perri?  you know something that isn't out here yet?
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2005, 02:32:00 PM »
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On 2005-03-03 11:05:00, Perrigaud wrote:

"Haven't heard that. Wouldn't be surprised if it did. "

I would.  WWASP facilities don't just close.  They either close because they are under investigation, in which case we would have heard about it, or they get raided and shut down.  The Jamaicans have shown little interest in TB.  They just don't care.  Other overseas facilities have come and gone but TB just keeps on going.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2005, 03:13:00 PM »
the jamaican's goberment just might be the ones doing it?

ya-mon
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2005, 04:27:00 PM »
For those who don?t know, TB is Tranquility Bay of WWASP
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2005, 04:42:00 PM »
by Richard Titsch III

Early this year (2003) I vacationed in Jamaica. I had heard the stories and had spoken to some press that were investigating the issues. My curiosity was somewhat peaked, and since I was staying in Jamaica for about a week, I decided to hire a driver and see, for myself, what this facility looks like. My experience and the pictures I personally took of the facility are available for the asking. For those interested in an abridged version - - here it goes:

First and foremost, you must understand that this place is in the middle of nowhere. It's a shock to travel Jamaica's countryside to begin with, because driving in general is so dangerous, away from the resorts (I happened to be staying in Ocho Rios) and the poverty is omnipresent. The city (Treasure Beach) is as remote as it gets, and when you arrive and ask where Tranquility Bay is (or to it's local folk the "Olde Warf Hotel"), you are outrightly lied to -- they say they don't know exactly where it is. Once you arrive in town, past the Motorcycle merchant, look for an old Jamaican (looks to be 300 or so) sitting on a rock, for it is at that dirt road you have to turn and follow a path about a half-mile long to the rather un-glorious "Tranquility Bay".

My first awareness that I was in the right place, was that I saw 10 or 20 boys riding on the rim of an old Pick-up Truck in front of us. They all looked unkempt and the ride looked dangerous. They were allowed inside the gates (the children and the dilapidated truck) and I had the driver stop so I could take in this nightmare, that I had only previously read about or had seen by way of very unclear pictures on the internet.

It's bad -- the first thing that catches your eye is that all of the windows (99%) have been "boarded-up". It hales from something out of a Hitchcock movie. The place has an odor and it is not pleasant at all. The beach could never be utilized because it looks as though the sewage is emptied on it regularly. If that's not the case, then a blanket statement that the beach is in horrible and unusable condition for whatever reason is a completely fair assessment of the situation.

The place has guards; it's ominously quiet (it was while I was there). Even if you did manage to escape, I don't know where any of its "guests" would run to. The trip just to the main road (if you could call it that) would wind even the most fit athlete, and the townspeople are rumored to get rewards for turning run-a-ways in. Remember that many Jamaicans work for the facility and even if the reward does not exist, they have a stake in making sure the "guests" stay imprisoned.

Obviously, I could not go inside, but I snapped many pictures and they clearly illustrate, that the place is a broken-down second-rate motel from the past, and should have been leveled many years ago, and that any beauty that the structure or the beach on which it sits may have once possessed is gone. It's a frightening site (and this is just from the outside). Notably, there is garbage in large cages outside the structure and I did have the feeling that something or someone, other than it's intended contents, may be placed in there from time-to-time.

Interestingly, I was not approached, although I was taking pictures like crazy (and my presence was somewhat obvious).

Another important fact, for people to keep in mind, is that this "hell-hole" is hours from both Kingston and Montego Bay Airports -- it's a drive you will never forget and it runs upwards of $300 round-trip.

Truly, all of this is moot, because the Headmaster (and I use this reference loosely) has no credentials at all which justify his position of management over this facility. The parents are bad parents -- plain and simple -- for taking part in this plan. An inquiry about this program by any parent, by itself, should result in a parent being jailed with no due process for the rest of their life.

Eventually, the United States Government will have to deal with this mess -- hopefully by invading Utah again -- it is time for that (government intervention) -- they have short memories from the last time (The Invasion of Utah.) Utah's inhabitance (and others) need desperately to come to terms with the fact that troubled children are a part of normal life and that having them kidnapped by paid morons (mostly because the parents are too cowardly to do this themselves)and then surreptitiously smuggling their child/children off to a foreign country to be tortured indefinitely is contrary to the mores and values of a civilized society.

Do not send your kids to this place! It's awful to look at, the manager is unqualified and all your doing is stuffing the bulging coffers of the nuts and religious fanatics that run these torture chambers.

Richard R. Titsch, III
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2005, 10:11:00 PM »
Found this:  
http://www.travelandleisure.com/invoke. ... E4CAD6D6BD
On page 3 of the article "Jake's", once again, and the area get a round of applause.  You could email the authors at Travel & Leisure magazine and let them know what is so well hidden in Treasure Beach!
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2005, 10:55:00 AM »
TB. It's one of the most militant-like of all the WWASP facilities. It's all about compliancy. It's outrageous. I have heard many horror stories about that place. Samoa used to be the hardest. Now it's TB. CCM is more emotional based. By this I don't mean that they are tortured emotionally rather than physically I mean that they are given therapy by licensed therapists. The rules and regulations are nothing compared to TB.
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2005, 11:13:00 AM »
Epileptic Girl Needs Meds?

Alrightee, this is "hot off the press", and from a very reliable source. It seems there?s a girl at Tranquility Bay with epilepsy who IS NOT GETTING HER MEDICATION. Now, I?m no medical expert; but, my understanding, as a layman mind you, is that not getting Sodium Dilantin for three (3) months could cause unnecessary seizures, and uncontrolled seizures can certainly lead to a fatality.

Now, our highly trusted and connected source tells us that Jay?s excuse is that the medication won?t clear customs. Well Jay, HELLO, how about getting a Doctor in that hellhole you?re in to prescribe whatever comparable medication is available and legal in Jamaica so this girl doesn?t have to suffer anymore than she already has to date!! Oh, and Jay, fill 'er up please - that will be charge.

Also, I thought you didn?t admit children in this sort of situation. What happened, did the parents slip you an extra $20 to make an exception? And to the parents of this poor girl, why don?t you consider GETTING YOUR CHILD WITH A SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION OUT OF TRANQUILITY BAY BEFORE SHE HAS A SEIZURE THAT A GAS STATION ATTENDANT CAN?T CONTROL.

Wow, what the hell is the matter with these people?!
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2005, 12:10:00 PM »
Did any one ever check if the CCM theraphist actually have a license. I have heard other wise.
 
It sounds good.$4800.00 a month worth..It may not be accurate.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2005, 01:39:00 PM »
Most of the "therapists" employed by WWASP are unlicensed.

It doesn't really matter. These "therapists" are another tool used by the program to break the children down. Did you listen to the latest Annie Armen show? There was a woman there who is a CCM survivor. Her "therapist" told her her grandfather died believing she was a drug addict. When she got out, she found her grandfather alive and well.

The goal is to break the child down in any way possible, to allow for them to be "re-wired" into program-worshipping WWASPies.
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2005, 01:43:00 PM »
And that is no way 'therapeutic', it is sadistic and cruel.
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2005, 02:32:00 PM »
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On 2005-03-03 19:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

You could email the authors at Travel & Leisure magazine and let them know what is so well hidden in Treasure Beach!"


Yeah, you could. But they already know and they really are not interested in anyone else finding out. I remember this whole saga from when Rich Titsch was posting here before.

As I recall, Jakes' is in the camp w/ the all inclusive resort ppl. The local ppl of Treasure Beach, mom-n-pop hotel owners (mostly Americans) and really, really impoverished others, don't really want anything to do w/ these people or their development projects. They like being a little, exclusive, out of the way resort community. They also can't afford (CAN'T afford at ALL) the negative publicity.

If you're careful and demonstrate that you understand and respect their interests, some of the local ppl may be willing to help get the dish on TB in order to get rid of them. But it's dicey as hell. How do you do that w/o drawing negative publicity? Titsch tried publicly shaming them into doing something. They responded by taking down their website and strictly censoring anything relating to TB.

But what's the story about the gas station? Do tell!

Excepting drug activity for personal use or free
distribution from the sweep of the CSA would discourage the consumption of
lawful controlled substances.
http://www.angeljustice.org/' target='_new'>acting US Solicitor General, Paul Clement; Ashcroft v. Raich

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