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« on: February 16, 2005, 12:54:00 PM »
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State agencies probe
Ivy Ridge Alleged abuse, credentials investigated
by Chris Garifo, Times Albany Correspondent
First published: Wednesday, February 16, 2005

By Chris Garifo
Times Albany Correspondent

ALBANY - State agencies are investigating allegations of physical abuse at the Academy at Ivy Ridge and whether the school is implying that it provides more than just behavior modification for troubled teens.

Officials with the Office of Child Protective Services and the state Education Department held a conference call Feb. 9 to discuss Ivy Ridge.

Spokesmen from both agencies would not comment on the call; however, sources say officials are concerned about allegations, the specifics of which have not been made public, that students have been physically abused at the school, on state Route 37 just outside of Ogdensburg.

Investigators from the state Attorney General's Office also have subpoenaed Ivy Ridge to find out just what sort of institution it is and whether it is claiming to be a diploma-writing institution, which officials believe it is not accredited to do, said a source who asked not to be identified.

Joseph E. Mitchell, director of girls residential life at Ivy Ridge, said he knows of no allegations about abuse of any students and that nothing like that has happened.

"Our doors are always open for anybody to come in and investigate such an allegation," he said. "That's the beauty of free speech and an open press; but we have nothing to hide."

Ivy Ridge staff also are gathering together the documentation requested in the subpoena, which must be delivered by Feb. 28 to the Attorney General's Regional Office in Watertown, said Mr. Mitchell, who was filling in for academy Director Jason G. Finlinson, who was away from campus Monday and Tuesday.

A spokesman for state Attorney General Eliot L. Spitzer declined to comment on the subpoena.

"Our office neither confirms nor denies any investigation," said the spokesman, Marc E. Violette.

The subpoena was served on the academy Monday, Mr. Mitchell said. The school, with approximately 460 students on campus, was established in January 2002 on 237 acres of the former Mater Dei College, which closed after the 1998-99 academic year.

The subpoena demands records and documentation related to the academy's licensing and accreditation.

"Nothing that indicated wrongdoing, but just information on exactly what we do," Mr. Mitchell said.

Ivy Ridge is accredited as a special-purpose school - not a high school - through the Northwest Association of Accredited Schools in Boise, Idaho.

According to Ivy Ridge's Web site, http://www.academyivyridge.com, the school offers students two diplomas: a general diploma and a college prep diploma. The latter diploma has a foreign language requirement.

However, any diploma issued by Ivy Ridge would not be officially recognized in New York, said Thomas Dunn, a spokesman for the state Education Department.

"Those are not New York state high school diplomas," he said. "It is a diploma without any sanction from the state."

The academy appreciates any attention being paid by the state, Mr. Mitchell said.

"We've actually been trying to have somebody from the state visit our school," he said "We welcome the opportunity to show what we're about and show what's going on here."

Ivy Ridge uses a six-level behavior modification program for troubled teenagers developed by the Utah-based World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools. Though WWASPS does not own or operate the facility, it does provide support services.

WWASPS and its associated schools have been criticized for their behavioral modification methods, and some students have claimed they were physically or sexually abused at the schools. No such accusations have been made public against Ivy Ridge.

WWASPS schools are also located in Montana, South Carolina, Utah and Jamaica. WWASPS-associated schools in Mexico, Costa Rica and the Czech Republic were closed down by their respective governments because of allegations of physical abuse.

U.S. Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., referred to similar allegations about Ivy Ridge in a May 11 letter to then U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft in which he asked for a federal investigation of WWASPS programs. The letter refers to a criminal investigation by the New York Attorney General's Office into "possible 'improprieties' within WWASPS facilities following the alleged assault of a teenager while being transported to a WWASPS facility in New York near the Canadian border."

Sources have told the Watertown Daily Times that one of the issues to be resolved is who would have actual jurisdiction over any child abuse complaints involving Ivy Ridge: the Office of Children and Family Services or the state Attorney General's Office.

Kenneth E. Kay, WWASPS president, said he was certain the attorney general's investigation and the subpoena served Monday would find no evidence of wrongdoing on Ivy Ridge's part.

"I don't think that there's anything improper at all," he said. "What I do hope is, if there is a specific staff member who has operated outside the scope of their authority or outside the scope of academy policy, that action is taken against that person."

Mr. Kay said he had seen a copy of the subpoena and that it wanted documents on ownership of Ivy Ridge and who set up the institution and information about a specific student, but he refused to identify which pupil or what sort of documents about him or her were requested.

Mr. Kay said he supports any state investigation.

"What it looks to me like is it's really nice to know the state of New York and the people involved in the state of New York take these things seriously," he said. "It's nice to know that, hey, those guys are doing their job."

Mr. Kay also said he hoped the state investigators would keep in mind that the students at Ivy Ridge are "egregious teens" who make up stories and manipulate people to get their way.

Investigators would have no problem getting the full cooperation of Ivy Ridge and its staff, Mr. Kay said.

"Ivy Ridge has always had an open-door policy," he said. "They can walk in there any time and talk to the kids - any law enforcement or parents or anybody can."
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2005, 01:43:00 PM »
who here that has had an experience with wwasps would allow just anyone to speak with their child while they are under wwasps care?

ken kay said he would allow anyone a conversation with them did he not?  OR was he misquoted AGAIN!
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2005, 10:30:00 PM »
Yeh, yeh, yeh... they're accredited.
So what, so was Casa, which has now been added to their list of 'Dropped Schools'.
http://www2.boisestate.edu/nasc/dropped_schools.htm
One to be proud of. I sure didn't see their name in the news articles when the place was shut down.

These accreditation organizations are a joke. Another money making scam along the way. Gives the illusion that these facilities are functioning with ethics and integrity. They are primarily concerned with corp structure, financial adequacy, educated staff (not sure how any of the W programs passed this one).
They do not monitor or regulated the BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION aspect of the programs. Even the
'Special Purpose Schools', which are left to the discretion of the 'master level' director by another accreditation org. Couldn't find the requirements for the Northwest Assoc. Perhaps the media and others need to come down on these agencies when they have an abusive facility as a member.


But this says it all. From NW Assoc. Article III:
The purposes of the corporation shall be EXCLUSIVELY EDUCATIONAL: to advance the cause of education in the colleges and schools of the northwest (i.e., within the states of Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, and Washington, and other geographical areas designated from time to time) by taking over and carrying on, in corporate form, the existing organization, activities, purposes, assets, and liabilities of the Northwest Association of Secondary and Higher Schools, an unincorporated association, as presently constituted.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2005, 11:41:00 PM »
check this out in that link you provided.  notice the schools, dates and who?

http://www2.boisestate.edu/nasc/interna ... visits.htm
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2005, 11:46:00 PM »
5. World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS). Leonard Paul reported that he, Dick Darst, and Terry Ogborn met with members of the WWASPS earlier this year. During the meeting with WWASPS, Mr. Paul requested permission to attend their monthly principal?s meeting to discuss accreditation issues. Discussion was held regarding the appropriateness of Northwest Association of Accredited Schools? accreditation of certain schools rather than the regional in which the school was located. Leonard Paul reported that three of the schools were affiliated with Premier Systems rather than WWASPS. These schools were Pillars of Hope, Swan Lake Academy and Midwest Academy.

            a. Casa by the Sea ? Northwest Association of Accredited Schools. Joseph Ingalls agreed to chair this visit with Mike Smith and Carolyn Mauer as team members.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2005, 11:50:00 PM »
Premier Systems?
Hope someone has time to look at this and the programs mentioned. I might not get to it for a day or two.
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2005, 12:12:00 AM »
primier is wwasp...that's their new name to hide behind until the next convictions hit the media.

remeber the shell game?  or find the queen?
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2005, 01:34:00 AM »
Pillars of Hope = Dundee Ranch. It's been re-opened. I don't know anything about Swan Lake.
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2005, 11:13:00 AM »
ANYONE?
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2005, 01:11:00 AM »
is swan lake the name for the darrington academy or the wwasps facility in overton, nv?  premier; yeah, right!
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2005, 03:20:00 AM »
Darrington is in GA. I was not aware of any WWASP facility is NV. When did it open?
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2005, 11:58:00 AM »
WATERTOWN DAILY TIMES
Copyright (c) 2005, Watertown Daily Times
Friday, February 18, 2005
TAG: 0502180114
EDITION: Both
SECTION: Capital Albany    PAGE: D8
LENGTH:   82 lines
HEADLINE: STATE VISITS IVY RIDGE FOR PROBE*
INVESTIGATORS LOOKING INTO ABUSE ALLEGATIONS
BYLINE: By Chris Garifo*
Times Albany Correspondent
DATELINE: ALBANY
TEXT:
  Investigators from the state Office of Children and Family Services
visited the Academy at Ivy Ridge while looking into allegations that students *
of the behavior modification institution outside of Ogdensburg may have been
physically abused.
  "We did do a visit of Ivy Ridge today, but it would be premature to discuss*
details of the visit at this point," OCFS spokesman Brian Marchetti said late
Thursday.
  However, sources in a position to know say the visit was tied to
allegations included in an article that appeared Wednesday in the Watertown
Daily Times reporting that state agencies were investigating Ivy Ridge over   *
physical-abuse allegations and whether the school was implying that it
provides more than just behavioral modification for troubled teens.
  "It went really well," Joseph E. Mitchell, director of girls residential
life at Ivy Ridge, said about the visit. "They came in and told us they wanted*
to know, that they don't know a lot about us, didn't know how they would
classify us. They wanted to get an idea of what we do and what we're about."
  The state officials were given a tour of the facility and were able to talk
to a couple of Ivy Ridge's upper-level students, said Mr. Mitchell, who is    *
filling in for school director Jason G. Finlinson, who has been out of town
this week.
  OCFS did not give Ivy Ridge officials advance notice of the visit.         *
  "They said they'd be putting a report together and writing us a letter and
would send that to us," Mr. Mitchell said.
  The investigators did not mention any allegations of physical abuse, Mr.
Mitchell said.
  "Apparently, they're not getting anything concrete, otherwise they would
have come in long ago," he said. "This was more of an opportunity to get
information and have a tour. None of their questions led us to believe they
have anything concrete."
  Kenneth E. Kay, president of the Utah-based World Wide Association of
Specialty Programs and Schools, which provides support to Ivy Ridge, said     *
allegations of abuse were false.
  "It doesn't surprise me; with the group of kids they deal with, they are
going to make those kinds of unfounded allegations," Mr. Kay said. "Over 99
percent of the kids at Ivy Ridge, one of the things the parents put on the
form is that the kids fabricate the truth, they make up stories and tell
lies."
  Mr. Mitchell welcomed the visit.
  "It's about time, actually; it's nice to have people coming in," he said.
"We've invited people and some have come and others haven't, so now they're
coming in and seeing what we're about."
  Monday, investigators from the state attorney general's office served a
subpoena on Ivy Ridge in an effort to find out just what sort of institution  *
the academy is and whether it is claiming to be a diploma-writing institution,
which officials believe it is not accredited to do.
  The school has until Feb. 28 to deliver the required documents and files to
the attorney general's regional office in Watertown.
  The school, with approximately 460 students on campus, was established in
January 2002 on 237 acres of the former Mater Dei College, which closed after
the 1998-99 academic year.
  The subpoena demands records and documentation related to the academy's
licensing and accreditation.
  Ivy Ridge is accredited as a special-purpose school - not a high school -  *
through the Northwest Association of Accredited Schools in Boise, Idaho.
  Ivy Ridge uses a six-level behavior modification program for troubled      *
teenagers developed by the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and
Schools, which does not own or operate the school but does provide support
services.
  WWASPS and its associated schools have been criticized for their
behavior-modification methods, and some students have claimed they were
physically or sexually abused at the schools.
  WWASPS schools are also located in Montana, South Carolina, Utah and
Jamaica. WWASPS-associated schools in Mexico, Costa Rica and the Czech
Republic reportedly were closed down by their respective governments because
of allegations of physical abuse, a claim Mr. Kay denies.
  He said the Mexican government did close its Casa by the Sea school but the
Costa Rican and Czech Republic institutions closed because government
guidelines for their operation changed and the type of program used could not
reasonably accommodate those changes.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2005, 10:59:00 AM »
I would like to thank the employee of ivy ridge who posted. About the only intelligent post here. I especially like the part about give your kids up for adoption. How true. The mother of my kid stuck her in ivy ridge to get out of paying me childsupport. I'm pissed. I am 46yrs old. I was placed in a real boarding school when I was 6yrs. old Iwas there till I was 14 and told my mother to go to hell. I t took me 2 weeks and a threat to her mother to finally find out where she had put her. It took another 2weeks to get the tour of the place. I have filed for custody.Is there abuse going on a ivy ridge. I guarentee it. I could see it before I ever left my house for the 6hr ride to get there. I have the letters from my daughter telling me not to take her mother to court and try to get her out of the "school" This pissed me off. A real "school" would never have allowed her to know what I was doing. Ask any counselor in the world and they would tell you it was wrong. Excuse my french but read your fucking handbook that you were given on page 12 about manipulation. I was then allowed to go to the school for a tour. I have been a few places in my life. I was an over the road truckdriver. Odgensburg, NY . Been there before the middle of nowwhere. Real onehorse town. ivy ridge will put this town on the map.Probably one ofthe largest employers in the town I do the tour bullshit. I was walking down the hall and the kids would sneak glances at me. I asked about that. I was told until they get to a certain "level" you can't talk. Holly shit, you take a dog to obiedence school and at least he can bark. You know what, I don't have the time to tell you dumb ass parents about it .I have been in Jail (for childsupport) and boarding school for 9yrs and ivy ridge. That is also the degree of dificulty. Jail is a piece of cake . Boarding school sucked and ivy ridge is the bottom of the fucking barrell. If you are a parent reading this, use your fucking yuppy head. You tell your kids you don't want them to grow up and work in Micky D's, Who do you think is taking care of your kids. I went to a bar whileI was there and talked to some people.what a joke.Think of this, where you work, you have good and bad employees. Do you think this shit hole is any different. I went to a so called respectable boarding school. There was sexual abuse there and this was in the 60's. Get you head out of your ass. Can you really be this fucking stupid. You work at a job what happens when you have somebody with power. Your boss, or somebody elses boss. Do some of them abuse the power?? Do cops, judges,teachers and even the asshole security guard abuse there power. Put anybody incontrol of somebody and there is the potential for abuse. Now, take the mentality of some of the employees of ivy ridge. You dumb asses. Do you honestly think that one of these hillbillies wouldn't take a blowjob for a smoke. Hell,our one fucken president did it. Where was the secret service?? This place is supposed to be above that? I have been there done that. Do I still have the scares from when I was in a boarding school. Hell yes, 35 yrs later. You ass holed have more money than brains. Insted of the 2cars and the big house you should of spent somemoney on learning how to be a parent. You invented the word TIME OUT. Now you assholes invented the saying, My kid is out of control. Never heard that when I was growing up.Hey, put the kid on ridlin, he must have a problem. You are the fuckin problem. ivy ridge says the kids made poor choices. The kid had no choice to have a stupid parents. Sorry to go off but I hate yuppys and stupid people. They both blame others for there problems. I used to see the yuppies at my daughter's sports events, Usually standing there talking to another ashole about there job, there new house, cars,... Hey, asshole , your kid just scored a goal. They are the ones who say that they don't know what went wrong with so and so's kid . He came from a good family. Nice neighborhood and gave him or her everything. You know who you are. You sent your kid to a place, Not a school. They cheat to get your kid through school. Your kid is home schooled. If you are so fucking smart, have one of the parents stay home and teach the kid. Save the $ 40,000.00 plus cash. Remember this is equal to making$60,000.00. No don't, you were dumb enough to send your kid to ivy ridge your too stupid to educate them. Shit you too stupid to be a parent. Remember, you are the minority, there are a hell of alot more good parents than bad. Hey, the next time you go out to eat at Micky D's or the country club look at the person who waites on you and tell him that you have more money than him but, he will probably be a better parent. And, for the kids who got out of these places. When you turn 18 get a lawyer. Sue you parents, they fucked you. They put you on this earth and didn't do there job. They had choices. abortion, adoption. But they chose to fuck you up themselves. If your still in ivy ridge, I know you wont be reading this. Also, I would be glad to take a couple kids at my house. You give me custody will call the $40,000.00 childsupport and it will be tax free to me. I will teach you kid what he or she needs to know. EPa3437202@aol.com
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