The Truth Will Prevail

[Anonymous]

http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsnz.html#whitmore

Additional Comments from the Director of ISAC, posted on February 16, 2005:

In a telephone conversation on Friday, February 11, 2005 with ISAC Director Shelby Earnshaw, Mark Sudweeks claimed that Joyce Harris "dragged her daughter out [of Whitmore Academy] by the hair."

In the days following, ISAC became aware of statements reportedly made by another interested party who claimed to have a copy of the incident report filed by the Nephi City Police Officer who accompanied Joyce Harris to Whitmore Academy.

Along with this claim, this third person also reportedly said that the incident report stated that Mrs. Harris had dragged her daughter by the hair.

This person also reportedly stated that the police officers investigating the case do not believe Mrs. Harris.

Because ISAC is committed to reporting FACTUAL INFORMATION, Director Shelby Earnshaw spoke directly to the investigator in charge of the case on Tuesday, February 15, 2005.

Among other things, the investigator stated that he believes Joyce Harris is "very credible."

During that conversation, ISAC also learned that due to a clerical error, the incident report in question had never been entered into the computer and DID NOT EXIST prior to ISAC's phone call to the Nephi City Police on February 15, 2005.

Therefore it would not be possible for Mark Sudweeks or any other persons to have a copy of the report in question.

Today, Wednesday February 16, ISAC obtained a copy of the report made by the Nephi City Police on the night that Joyce Harris removed her daughter from Whitmore Academy.

It is not public record so only excerpts will be posted on this site, however the report supports the fact that statements accusing Mrs. Harris of dragging her daughter by the hair, are false.

On 11-27-04 at approximately 02:21 hours I accompanied Richard and Joyce Harris of San Antonio, Texas to the Whitmore Academy.

When [the child] was about to leave several girls from the academy told Joyce that she couldn't take her. Joyce insisted and began pulling on [the child's] arm as several girls pulled on her other arm to try and keep her there.

Once again the girls told Joyce that she couldn't take her. Joyce pulled on her arm and the other girls pulled her back. [The child] broke loose and swiftly exited the mansion.


In the telephone conversation with Mark Sudweeks on February 11, ISAC informed him that he was welcome to submit a response to the statements made by Joyce Harris.

Mr. Sudweeks conveyed no interest in doing that and has sent no response to date, however he did state several times that ISAC would be hearing from his attorney.

[Gmom]

I'm beginning to think the Sudweeks don't know fact from fiction.  In fact, it seems to me they just flat out tell bald-faced lies.  Read the police report for yourself.  Those of you supporting the Sudweeks, do you really believe that the Nephi Police Department is lying??  It's more like Mark Sudweeks looks like to me.

[Anonymous]

Anyone wonder who this "third person" might be?

Who else could be so upset with the Harris's Statement to ISAC?

[Anonymous]

In the Canada Animal Cruelty case where Mark Sudweeks was found guilty, the Judge had this to say about Mark Sudweeks' testimony:

Paragraph 27   Regina v Sudweeks

"I found Mr. Sudweeks' testimony to be a litany of excuses.  Some were incredible and others merely very unconvincing.  He did not raise any reasonable doubt in my mind."

What a nice way to say:  This man does not tell the truth.

[Anonymous]

Oh, by the way,the Attorney General in Utah dismissed the child abuse case today. No evidence. Imagine that!

[Anonymous]

ATTENTION:

The Posting that says THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS DROPPED THE ABUSE CHARGES AGAINST THE SUDWEEKS IS NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Attorney General only handles Civil Matters and is STILL investigating the Sudweeks for FRAUD etc.

The Attorney General can be reached at
801 812-5206 to verify that this posting that the abuse charges being dropped is a LIE!!!

The Sudweeks are still being investigated for physical and sexual abuse!

[Anonymous]

A mis-informed parent posting misinformation on this site.

MY my----imagine THAT!

Almost as interesting as a NON-EXISTING Police Report.

[Anonymous]

Have all the Sudweeks' followers missed this thread?

Guess they just avoid things that they just have no way to explain at all.

Could say: Hey Joyce, sorry I lied!

[Antigen]

For the most part, Program supporters have retreated. They can't control the dialog or keep out inconvenient facts and thoughts so they can't win. My guess is we won't be hearing from them anymore. They're probably not allowed to read Fornits anymore.

The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
--John Adams, U.S. President

[Anonymous]

No, they have not retreated. They have taken on a more direct appraoch- contact those already out and speaking their minds.  The kids home are receiving emails and phone calls, I have witnessed both!  

I am a parent and I know for a fact my son received a threatening call.  I have also seen emails.  The calls and emails are to those they believe are the ring leaders.  The contacts have gone from threatening and abusive to pleads to stop.  The victim role is being played by Cheryl and several others. The emails are a pathetic attempt to get pity and proclaim unconditional love.  

A little late for that don't you think.  Especially since the contact prior to the emails were so abusive and threatening.  Sorry, but actions speak much louder than words!  Those who are telling the truth are "distroying them."  Forget about the experiences and secrets those home still live with every single day!  

Why aren't the parents of these kids contacted??  Why continue to call, email and threaten those now home.  Could it be they still may have fragile, confused minds?  As a parent I say, "leave the kids alone!"  Contact the parents if you have something to say.  Most of them are still minors.  Not to mention, if they have filed complaints you are tampering with witnesses which is against the law!

If you have nothing to hide and all the accusations are false, there is nothing to worry about.  Go on with your daily activities and "saving children."  Let the authorities and attorneys do their jobs.  Eventually this will come to an end, one way or the other.  As Joyce said... "The truth will prevail!"  No amount of cursing, slander or threats can change the truth-just make the accusations more believable.

[Joyce Harris]

To any parents who have received an threatening phone calls or emails:

Please call BOTH your local police, and the Nephi Police departments.

Save the caller ID on your phone, to verify to you local police exactly which phone number or cell number the call was made from.

Save the emails to turn over to both local police and Nephi police.

That is what we did when we received these type emails and phone calls from indiviuals who were given our email address and home phone numbers by SOMEONE from Whitmore who made these types of contact to our family.

The contacts did stop.  You won't feel completely safe, because people who will behave in this manner have a serious problem--but the harrassment can hopefully end.

Of course these people do not contact adults---they have no control over adults. And they think they can still have mind control over our children by threats, and if that fails, by trying to draw them back into their false sense of "FAMILY LOVE," which is just as frightening.

[Antigen]

Check w/ your local phone company. A lot of local telcos offer a call trace service for law enforcement. Here's a typical info sheet on that:

http://www.ci.broomfield.co.us/police/v ... rass.shtml

"Have the Calls Traced

To trace a call, press *57 (or 1157 on rotary phones) immediately after hanging up from the call.  If the call was traced, the telephone number will be forwarded to a Qwest Security Center.  The trace information can be given to the Broomfield Police Department if you choose to report the incident.  Qwest will not give you the trace information.  You do not have to sign up for Call Trace.  A $1.00 fee is charged each time a call is traced."

When I checked this service out in Broward, they also advised me to keep a journal, noting the time and date and the content of each harassing call.

He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion.

--James Burgh 1774

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[Joyce Harris]

We had hoped that this posting would at least slow down some of the false accusations about what happened the night we picked our daughter up from the Whitmore on Nov 27th.

The latest posting under the topic
"Whitmore Academy in Utah"...the Whitmore Alumni now posts that Joyce "took her (daughter) by the hair and threw her out the door."

and that "the cops came and you (Joyce)lied to them."

We actually requested a police escort, and Officer Wright accompanied us to the Whitmore, and he witnessed that I did not pull my daughter's hair or abuse her.

It is amazing that even with a posting from ISAC showing that Mark Sudweeks lied about this incident, that the slanderous remarks continue.

[Cayo Hueso]

Don't sweat it Joyce.  If they admit to that, then their whole little world comes crumbling down.  If they take their finger out of the dyke then their whole belief system is challenged.  Can't have that now can we?

To seek out the best through the whole Union, we must resort to the information which from the best of men, acting disinterestedly and with the purest motives, is sometimes incorrect.
http://laissezfairebooks.com/product.cfm?op=view&pid=FF7485&aid=10247' target='_new'> Thomas Jefferson Letter to Elias Shipman and others of New Haven, July 12, 1801.

[BuzzKill]

So, no one is disputing that the police were there when Mrs. Harris withdrew her daughter. . . Correct?
Does it not occur to those insisting that she pulled her daughter out by the hair on her head, while the girl cried, "Please don't let her take me", that the police officer would have been obligated to arrest Mrs. Harris on the spot, IF this were true?
If this were true, it would certainly be in the incident report.
The attending officer never saw any such thing - and anyone who claims otherwise is lying or repeating lies, without bothering to make a simple phone call to fact check.

And the horses in Canada were Starved. Read the  transcripts.