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Offline Antigen

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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2005, 01:53:00 AM »
Someone recently suggested that I should go down the list of known deaths in the troubled parent industry and x-ref w/ this list.

X-ref Precious children who have died in "therapy." http://mysite.verizon.net/res0g8bp/the8 ... /id74.html
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On 2005-02-01 00:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

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this is a COMPLETE list of PURE programs some they stopped refering to for a differnt number of reasons (non-payment and conditional licesing and the program simply ask that PURE stop refering to them then spoke out against them.)





Red Rock Academy
Katherine Lank - 16 years old - January 13, 2002 (Red Rock RAnch Academy)


Cedar Mountain Academy

Sorenson?s Ranch

Lost Legacy Ranch

Oak ridge military academy

Turning Point

Reality Ranch

Summit Achievement

Skyline Journey
Ian August - 14 years old - July 13, 2002 (Skyline Journey)


Glacier Mountain Academy

Kids Peace
Jason Tallman - 12 years old - May 12, 1993 (KidsPeace)
Mark Draheim - 14 years old - December 1998 (KidsPeace)

Harbor House for Girls

Safe Harbor

Harbor House for Boys

High Top Ranch

New Horizons Youth Ministries
Jerry McLaurin - 14 years old - November 2, 1999 (New Horizons Ranch)

Whitmore Academy

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Anybody know of any others? Are any of these listings inacurately attributed to PURE?

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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2005, 03:43:00 AM »
FYI ...

I believe that's Lott's Legacy (not Lost Legacy) Found this in the archives at Struggling Teens:

ACADEMY AT CEDAR MT. SUES LOTT'S LEGACY, THE FARROWS & SHEL MANN
(June 15, 2002)

Bruce S. Hughes, 435-867-1111 Founding Board Member for Academy at Cedar Mountain, Cedar City, Utah, 877-723-3729, announced the filing of a law suit against Bernie and Arlene Farrow, Shel Mann, and Lott's Legacy Youth Program, Escalante, Utah, Emilee Lott, co-owner, 435-826-4878. This announcement contains a response to a letter by Shel Mann, which has been circulating on the Internet the last few days to correct "the vast amount of incorrect information and confusing stories being told to parents, students and other parties." A full copy of the announcement, the Shel Mann letter, and any additional pertinent information will be contained in the Breaking News section of Woodbury Reports Online.

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Google Search: Shel Mann

About Us - http://www.HelpYourTeens.com - PURE - Helping Teens in Trouble ...  - ... Hall - Kennebunk, ME blancheamber@aol.com Shel Mann - Eden Prairie, MN - Shelm@pondviewproductions ...

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Our References - http://www.HelpYourTeens.com - P.U.R.E. - Helping Teens in
Thank you so much for being a champion for the parent!" Sincerely yours, Shel Mann President Pondview Productions Inc.
http://www.helpyourteens.com/references.html [Found on Ask Jeeves]  

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Anybody have any current info or an update?
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2005, 10:43:00 AM »
Sue Scheff tried to Refer us to Sunrise Academy in Utah.  We talked to the Admissions Director Boyd Hooper after she "referred" us to him.
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2005, 10:45:00 AM »
Sue Scheff referred us to Whitmore Academy. We enrolled our daughter there. But withdrew her amid allegations of child abuse against the owners Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks.  Our daughter was there: Oct 2004 until Nov 2004
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« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2005, 02:05:00 PM »
Please add Sunrise Academy in Utah to the list
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« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2005, 02:12:00 PM »
All programs in Utah should be suspect because there are rules there that allow abusive measures such as isolation. The authorities are also reluctant to investigate reports of abuse.  Reports of abuse by former patients, parents, employees and professionals often fall upon deaf ears.  The polititians except huge donations from owners and operators of youth facilities.  Anything in Utah should be rejected right now.  There have been far too many reports of horrific abuse, death and maltreatment there.  Stay away from youth programs in Utah...... :skull:

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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2005, 07:26:00 PM »
Why won't Sue Scheff provide a list of all schools she refers to?
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« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2005, 04:26:00 PM »
Why the secrecy? Everyone knows she gets paid. May get this answer to a direct question to her: "Do you get paid for helping us?" Sue's reply;;;;"OH no, parents never pay me anything, I just want to help. bla bla bla......"
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« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2005, 04:44:00 PM »
If the parents don't pay her then it must mean she gets paid by the schools.  That's even worse.  It means she works for the schools and not the kid or the parents.  That could mean that your kid goes to the highest bidder.
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« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2005, 06:43:00 PM »
it's nice to KNOW all of you are wrong as usual!
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« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2005, 06:52:00 PM »
So tell us what is right.  How is she paid?
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« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2005, 06:59:00 PM »
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"So tell us what is right.  How is she paid?"


By the schools she refers to.  How's THAT for conflict of interest!!!!!
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« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2005, 07:11:00 PM »
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If the parents don't pay her then it must mean she gets paid by the schools. That's even worse. It means she works for the schools and not the kid or the parents. That could mean that your kid goes to the highest bidder.


So then, that is an accurate statement.
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« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2005, 07:28:00 PM »
still wrong mtf'ers...all wrong.
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« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2005, 07:44:00 PM »
No, that's right. PURE is paid by the programs not the parents. Sue will tell you this, and I believe I recall seeing this explained on the PURE site.
That's partly why PURE is so controversial. One *might* tend to refer to the programs that pay the most and certainly *might not* refer to a program that won't pay, with out regard for what is best for the child. It is considered by *some* to be unethical for this reason.
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