Anyone see Montel today?

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2005-01-31 18:18:00, Anonymous





How in the HELL do you know anything about his "problems" before coming in there?  You also said that they didn't terminate him until he had a smooth bald spot on his head from pulling the hairs out one by one.  Did someone NOT notice BEFORE it got to the point where it was smooth and bald???  If not, WHY THE FUCK NOT???  At the very least[/b] that is neglect.  But in my book it's abuse.  The attitude of "he's just doing it for attention" or "he just wants out of the program" is abhorent

abhorent maybe...but it might also be true! :grin: "

By your own statement it WASN'T true.  He was taken to a mental hospital correct??  Yeah, that's real fucking funny.  More program compassion there huh?

The drug war places Leo in a round room and instructs him to piss in a corner.
--Antigen

[Anonymous]

On 2005-01-31 18:36:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:

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On 2005-01-31 18:29:00, Anonymous wrote:


i dont believe that sitting on a bench for a week causes someone to pull the hair out of there head...i assume you will retort that one week in LIFE could do that to a person...i say thats a load of bullshit."

No, sitting on a bench for a week does not cause someone to pull their hair out.  What happens to that person WHILE they are sitting on that bench has very much to do with it.



What about my other question?  Did NO ONE notice that he was doing this to an obvious degree of excess?  Do you really believe that it's OK to ignore something like that?



BTW...PLEASE learn how to use the quote feature properly.  You're staring to make me dizzy! :grin:

Religion is comparable to a childhood neurosis.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist

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i hate quoting so sorry for the dizziness i caused you...hey...did you know that wanting to get dizzy as a child means that you will use drugs as a teen?
that was what my mom steo mom told my wife and i when she put my step brother and sister in the program...now thats a load of shit!
anyway...it was very hard to tell at first what he was doing...it was like on hair at a time and by the time they checked him out it was the size of a half dollar. im sure someone said something to staff but havent they seen it all before...why would this display make them freak out?

[Anonymous]

On 2005-01-31 18:36:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:

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On 2005-01-31 18:29:00, Anonymous wrote:


i dont believe that sitting on a bench for a week causes someone to pull the hair out of there head...i assume you will retort that one week in LIFE could do that to a person...i say thats a load of bullshit."

No, sitting on a bench for a week does not cause someone to pull their hair out.  What happens to that person WHILE they are sitting on that bench has very much to do with it.



What about my other question?  Did NO ONE notice that he was doing this to an obvious degree of excess?  Do you really believe that it's OK to ignore something like that?



BTW...PLEASE learn how to use the quote feature properly.  You're staring to make me dizzy! :grin:

Religion is comparable to a childhood neurosis.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist

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i hate quoting so sorry for the dizziness i caused you...hey...did you know that wanting to get dizzy as a child means that you will use drugs as a teen?
that was what my  step mom told my wife and i when she put my step brother and sister in the program...now thats a load of shit!
anyway...it was very hard to tell at first what he was doing...it was like on hair at a time and by the time they checked him out it was the size of a half dollar. im sure someone said something to staff but havent they seen it all before...why would this display make them freak out?

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2005-01-31 18:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-01-31 18:36:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:


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On 2005-01-31 18:29:00, Anonymous wrote:



i dont believe that sitting on a bench for a week causes someone to pull the hair out of there head...i assume you will retort that one week in LIFE could do that to a person...i say thats a load of bullshit."

No, sitting on a bench for a week does not cause someone to pull their hair out.  What happens to that person WHILE they are sitting on that bench has very much to do with it.





What about my other question?  Did NO ONE notice that he was doing this to an obvious degree of excess?  Do you really believe that it's OK to ignore something like that?





BTW...PLEASE learn how to use the quote feature properly.  You're staring to make me dizzy! :grin:

Religion is comparable to a childhood neurosis.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist

"

i hate quoting so sorry for the dizziness i caused you...hey...did you know that wanting to get dizzy as a child means that you will use drugs as a teen?

that was what my mom steo mom told my wife and i when she put my step brother and sister in the program...now thats a load of shit!

anyway...it was very hard to tell at first what he was doing...it was like on hair at a time and by the time they checked him out it was the size of a half dollar. im sure someone said something to staff but havent they seen it all before...why would this display make them freak out?"

Why would this "display" make them freak???  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

The lust for power, for dominating others, inflames the heart more than any other passion
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0140440607/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'> Tacitus

[Anonymous]

On 2005-01-31 18:46:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:

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On 2005-01-31 18:41:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2005-01-31 18:36:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:



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On 2005-01-31 18:29:00, Anonymous wrote:




i dont believe that sitting on a bench for a week causes someone to pull the hair out of there head...i assume you will retort that one week in LIFE could do that to a person...i say thats a load of bullshit."

No, sitting on a bench for a week does not cause someone to pull their hair out.  What happens to that person WHILE they are sitting on that bench has very much to do with it.







What about my other question?  Did NO ONE notice that he was doing this to an obvious degree of excess?  Do you really believe that it's OK to ignore something like that?







BTW...PLEASE learn how to use the quote feature properly.  You're staring to make me dizzy! :grin:

Religion is comparable to a childhood neurosis.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist

"

i hate quoting so sorry for the dizziness i caused you...hey...did you know that wanting to get dizzy as a child means that you will use drugs as a teen?


that was what my mom steo mom told my wife and i when she put my step brother and sister in the program...now thats a load of shit!


anyway...it was very hard to tell at first what he was doing...it was like on hair at a time and by the time they checked him out it was the size of a half dollar. im sure someone said something to staff but havent they seen it all before...why would this display make them freak out?"

Why would this "display" make them freak???  :grin: my kids think so...all three of em! but maybe i just brainwashed them into believeing that....hmmm :roll:

[Helena Handbasket]

thanks :grin: my kids think so...all three of em! but maybe i just brainwashed them into believeing that....hmmm :roll: "

Well, you almost got that quote thing down.  Keep working on it.

As far as your kids go, I do believe parents should provide guidance, and kids should learn from their parents.  But what happens when parents are misinformed, and kids believe them?

Do you think there are any times when a kid should disobey their parents?  Do you think there are times when kids actually do know more than their parents?

_________________
"I was a long time coming
I'll be a long time gone
you've got your whole life to do something
and that's not very long"

- Ani DiFranco[ This Message was edited by: ~-=Sara=-~ on 2005-02-01 10:54 ]

[Anonymous]

On 2005-02-01 10:52:00, ~-=Sara=-~ wrote:

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thanks :grin: my kids think so...all three of em! but maybe i just brainwashed them into believeing that....hmmm :roll: "

Well, you almost got that quote thing down.  Keep working on it.



As far as your kids go, I do believe parents should provide guidance, and kids should learn from their parents.  But what happens when parents are misinformed, and kids believe them?



Do you think there are any times when a kid should disobey their parents?  Do you think there are times when kids actually do know more than their parents?



_________________

"I was a long time coming

I'll be a long time gone

you've got your whole life to do something

and that's not very long"



- Ani DiFranco[ This Message was edited by: ~-=Sara=-~ on 2005-02-01 10:54 ]"

If i was to tell one of my children that doing something that will harm them like drugs...breaking the law etc. yes they should not do what i say. I hope my children will grow up to know much more than me.

[GregFL]

And they should also run from "the program" whatever its recent incarnation, no matter what you think.

my 2 cents.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-02-01 17:42:00, GregFL wrote:

"And they should also run from "the program" whatever its recent incarnation, no matter what you think.



my 2 cents.



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i sure hope they dont need a program...hard to tell at 10, 7, and 4 years old.
D.=Darren

[Helena Handbasket]

i sure hope they dont need a program...hard to tell at 10, 7, and 4 years old.

D.=Darren"

So what would constitute "need" when they're 11-17?

[GregFL]

we had some 9 year olds with "druggie attitudes" in the seed.

Hey, start em young pappa. Go beltloop those little mini steppers into submission now, before they start!

[Helena Handbasket]

On 2005-02-02 06:52:00, GregFL wrote:

"we had some 9 year olds with "druggie attitudes" in the seed.



Hey, start em young pappa. Go beltloop those little mini steppers into submission now, before they start!





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And I still have yet to find a piece of literature on the propensity to abuse drugs - aside from psycho-social factors.  Wonder why we never saw any inner-city kids in these programs?

[rez1990]

was it john nahouse?

[rez1990]

i dont think darren was in life..i remeber the beatings and giving them.

[dbucfan]

On 2005-05-30 01:37:00, rez1990 wrote:

"i dont think darren was in life..i remeber the beatings and giving them. "

Uhh...stop trying to "think" I was in life before you were...intake was in late 88...I 7th stepped in 1990 from STEP in Tampa.
Noone was beat in my presence while i was there unless they misbehaved by attacking someone in group...then they were taken down by the 5th phasers which always made me smile. just seeing the attackers get taken down made my day!