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Offline mental torture made me li

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« on: January 13, 2005, 11:06:00 AM »
the last time i saw her was early 90s, she said she was working for another drug treatment place -- i can't remember which one.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2005, 06:12:00 PM »
I am replying to this b/c I want to know and no one has responded. Also Steve Turney, John Gugliamo, Rob Hockersmith, Richard Mullinax, Dave Hubbard, and any others from Springfield.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2005, 08:33:00 PM »
last time I googled Rob Hockersmith someone by that name turned up in a (totally unrelated) news story in Leesburg, VA.

Is Steve Turney really spelled Tierney? (i don't know, and i'm not being a spelling nazi, in this case it makes a difference if anyone is searching for him.)

note on Rob: i thought he was nice, he took my side when other people wanted to stand up and be mean. does anyone remember when he brought a boom box (yes that is the proper term) to a Saturday night "love rap" (when we sat in a huge square on the floor in the back of the main room). he played "sweet emotion", and sweet it was after not hearing music for months. then someone else, probably exec staff, came in and gave him shit for it and made him shut it off. i wonder if he was being subversive on purpose. so i do not reveal his location in order to put him in a frying pan. however, i wish more staff members would come around and tell what they have to tell. (Don Smith has an excellent paper about the whole thing of being staff.)

nevertheless, regarding all adult staff, you must step up for the crimes you commit. i'm all for blowing the cover right off. as has been discussed before, none of them are contacting survivors to see how we are. now that's not true, we have several ex-staff members around, who do really good things, such as Don's paper (i'm pretty sure it's on the ISAC site).

same as with Abu Ghraib, the little guys have been made to take the heat, when they are factually a part of something ordered down from a big guy. it is correct to pay for the crimes you commit, however, uncover the chain of command.

but then there are, as you and others have mentioned assholes like John Gugliamo. but if he was a big dumb retard, as has also been suggested, who is it we really want to get?

lately i have been drawing the line at exec staff: they were in a certain position, and not fresh off the brainwashing ranks like junior & senior staff. however i am open to discussion and revision on that.

but then i am back to: step up for the crimes you commit. if  junior or senior staff were ignorant of the brainwashing aspects, that might be understandable, but physical and emotional abuse is what it is.

sorry i am going in circles! i could get a lot trippier on the whole justice system, etc., or on the state of consciousness regarding drugs, paranoia of the state, and other tangents.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2005, 10:35:00 AM »
Wow, is that how to spell Tierney?

I didn't necessarily post all those names b/c I wanted to find out where they are and harass them, I'm really just curious. Tierney/Turney in particular was like a God when I was in there. I was scared shitless of him and I kinda just want to see that he is a normal person now. My favorite of this bunch was Mullinax...he inspired (sorry for the straight cliche) me to become a musician b/c of his love raps. He was a genuine person and rarely abused his power. I liked hockersmith, too, but I know someone who hates him, so I guess we all had different experiences even though we were in there together.

I agree, I think there's a line between laystaff and executives, that was their career and they were much more informed about what they were doing to us. I have said this before, but I think the paraprofessionals were victims, too. For many, they had no other skills but "straightness", so staff was an easy fit. Combine that with favoritism and bullshit training, and voila...insta-staff! And I'm not saying this to protect myself...I never made it beyond 3rd phase in 2 years, and that was for like 3 days.

My wife became a paraprofessional after she graduated...actually she was one of those who sat on the stool before she graduated. I was not in there with her, but I know she wasn't one of those nazi-types. She loved the kids in there and wanted to help/thought she was helping. And many (on this board and elsewhere) say she was a strong light in a dark place. She quit when they found out about her withdraw boyfriend. She's a social worker now, works in the juvie detention...and the kids love her. I think she is a wonderful person and clinician despite straight. She is one of those rare people that could find a positive message even in there and use it caringly, unlike so many of us for whom life became black and white.

I know this is a very unpopular stance to take on this board...so I'm ready for the flogging. :grin:
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2005, 11:49:00 AM »
hey shady grove, i just want to be clear: i don't know how to spell turney/tierney, but i've seen it both ways.

i also do not wish to "harass" anyone, that would be petty and unsatisfying considering the amount of pain they (choose your own "they") caused us.

i do wish to blow the cover off. for example, didn't Newton or one of those guys lose his job at a school when some folks here found out where he was, and then took it upon themselves to clue the school in to the FACTS regarding his history of criminal child abuse?

as far as i know, exec staff has never done time for their crimes. they have not yet made reparation to society, they have (mostly) not yet been revealed to society.

(when i talk like this, i start to assume the missouri or mississipi accent of some lawyer i seen in a movie. i do not know why.)
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2005, 11:58:00 AM »
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On 2005-01-15 08:49:00, Pietra wrote:

i do wish to blow the cover off. for example, didn't Newton or one of those guys lose his job at a school when some folks here found out where he was, and then took it upon themselves to clue the school in to the FACTS regarding his history of criminal child abuse?


He was trying to get a license to work as a psychologist with troubled kids.  After the state was informed AGAIN of his past he was only allowed to work UNDER another psychologist.  Well, ya know how well THAT went over with him.  He quit. :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2005, 05:57:00 PM »
:bump:
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2005, 02:49:00 PM »
Since Pietra died, can someone else please do a little sleuthing? We are trying to fill in some gaps here. Try an archive search on the Washington Post to find out if she married? Or Ffx Co records? Leslie Murden. Didn't she have a brother? Can someone find him to get her new name?
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2005, 05:31:00 PM »
Joe. Joe Murden.
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2005, 05:50:00 PM »
Thanks for the Joe Murden tip. I'm still coming up with nothing good on google, unless she teaches ballet. Anyone remember middle names or initials?
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2005, 06:44:00 PM »
Well, he just might teach ballet- I could see it.. :rofl:
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2005, 08:09:00 PM »
Wait, now I'm confused -- is Joe Murden a she or a he?
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2005, 08:26:00 PM »
Good question. :lol:
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2005, 06:02:00 PM »
Leslie Murden (now Leslie Roberts) is working at a treatment center in Herdon, Virginia called Sunrise house. She married another executive staff member by the name of John Roberts. He was also working with her at Sunrise house...but has since left...

From what I hear she is still as big a bitch as ever...
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2005, 06:19:00 PM »
[ This Message was edited by: Withdraw on 2005-09-22 23:12 ]
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