Info on WWASPS Paying People Off

[Nihilanthic]

Plenty do - but pathetic oneliners from anonymous twits as empty as the space between your ears are ignored.

God is the...refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find no sanctuary in His arms, but...a kind of superiority, soothing to their...egos: He will set them above their betters.
--H. L. Mencken, American publisher

[Perrigaud]

I agree with Niles

[Anonymous]

I suggest that you contact the Dept of Social Services in the town CSA is located. The facts will help with your decesion making.

[chi3]

I did call Social Services this week. They got back to me yesterday. I spoke with the director  of children's services and was told that I would have to petition the state for an order of discovery. She told me she could not legally tell me what the record show until then. I asked her was it true what I had heard that there had been at least 30 complaints filed with the state. I also asked if I was getting to worked up over this, or should I just go with my gut. She said that all she could me was that she was a mother and I wasn't being paranoid, She told me to go with my gut and get her out of there ASAP. She said if I ran into any difficulties when I tried to go get her, to call the sheriff's office, that they were very familiar with that "place."  So does that answer anyone's questions? Do you think the people at children's services are making things up? I can't imagine why, could you?

[Nihilanthic]

Write down or record this! You cant use it as proof if its just coming from you!

Ask for a written statement from the Sheriffs office, or Social services on this. Record your phonecalls. Check your laws first tho - in some states there only has to be consent from one of the parties to record a phone conversation.

While you're at it, refer the SS people to ISAC. They might have somthing to share, and they definitely have a lot to learn.

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[nite owl]

Never place blind faith in any program. Even with public schools - let alone private youth facilities. All of the abusive programs ask you to "have faith in the program." They frequently tell parents to "trust us - we know what we are doing and we have helped hundreds of kids." DON'T BELIEVE IT.  There are thousands of articles indicating that the WWASP facilities are abusive. They just get away with it in states like Utah, Idaho, Montana, and some of the Southern States because they have less regulations.

Demand to meet with your child - if they do not allow this - then call the police or child protective services and ask them to immediately place your child under protective custody until you arrive.  Don't trust a WWASP program - they are all the same and all use the same types of abusive and damaging behavior modification.....
Don't be bullied by them.

Any priest or shaman must be presumed guilty until proven innocent.
--Robert A. Heinlen, American science-ficiton author

[Anonymous]

Chi3--I'm glad you're checking into the risks and making alternate plans for your daughter.  You sound like a very level-headed person so I'm pretty sure you'll make the right decisions for your situation and that your family will be okay.

Best of luck with however you decide to handle this very difficult situation.  I wish and hope for the best for you and your family.

Timoclea

[Anonymous]

FYI  In court this past August,during the WWASP vs Pure trial, the director of Carolina Spings admitted under oath, when presented with the documentation from the DOSS, that YES in fact complaints had been filed. Subject matter about a boy with a fractured arm and more recieved at CSA .

Go with you gut not your program training.

I wish I had. My child's fractured arm received from the program spoke volumes. I didnt hear.

Its impossible to correct the mistake once its been made. Dont make this mistake.