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My Child has been smoking Marijuana
« on: November 29, 2004, 02:09:00 AM »
After 4 weeks of Suspcion, I finally caught my daughter smoking marijuana.I've been up for the past  2 weeks for a treatment center, to help "fade" the habit away, as I know she wont listen to me.I've read on here the programs take alot of time to complete,and actually churn out more negative results than positive.

        My daughter is 17, in here Senior year in HS.Before she started smoking marijuana, in the first quarter, her grades were at a 2.7 average.In this quarter, it looks like shes about to get a 3.9 average.And the coach for the basketball team says shes the best from what she's in the tryouts.Last year she wasnt even a starter, just usually on the bench.What I'm saying is that it's noticable she's doing better in all aspects of her life, and it doesnt really seem to me that the marijuana isn't really having  a negative effect on her life.She told me shes been smoking since te first half of this semester, and only on weekends, and hardly ever on weekdays, which make since, because I dont think I ever smelled it during those days.I dont really know if marijuana is bad for her.
       Should I try to enroll her in anything?I fear if I do, it will mess up her placement in college, as the programs are very long.She turns 18 in January, so she could just leave then.
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2004, 07:38:00 AM »
It sounds like you support her smoking marijuana.  You are the parent; it's your decision.  Just realize that any types of legal trouble she might encounter would have been supported by you.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2004, 07:59:00 AM »
Here's a thread with some useful information:
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... forum=9&50

One possibility:
Find out what the legal consequences are- better yet, ask her to research that and consider if she is willing to take the risk. To consider the pros and cons. Ask her how she would pay any fine associated with smoking if she were to be caught.
Controlling (rescuing and/or incarcerating) her is no solution. Ensuring that she has adequate and accurate information regarding the social consequences is useful.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2004, 08:19:00 AM »
It seems to me that your daughter is doing great in school and as long as she is listening to you in all other ways, then i don't think you have a problem. I would be carful when basketball season ends, if she does not heve other after school activities.She will be 18 soon and will make desicions that will affect her life greatly. I would have a talk with her and try to get her to stop till she is 18, and get some literature onthe affects it has on ones brain and go over it with her, but be careful how you go about this, so she does not take it the wrong way don't yell and be very loving and show her how much you care that she does well. That is my advise, and i went through a pot filled troubled child hood and i now transport kids to these schools for a living, and your daughter does not need one of these schools yet. Just be carful and pay extra attention, go to all her games!!
Peace and love, The one that cares
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2004, 08:31:00 AM »
Physical addiction means that the lack of the substance leads to the appearance of withdrawal symptoms. Psychological addiction is characterized by extreme craving of the substance and a habit of using substances to deal with, or rather escape from, emotional difficulties and problems.

Does your daughter experience withdrawal symptoms if she doesn't smoke? When she is depressed, anxious, or lonely, does she deal with it by smoking? If not, then I can't see what the problem is.

It takes long months of almost daily usage to become addicted to MJ. Your daughter sounds like a successful, bright girl that has a lot going for her, and who is capable of keeping her MJ use at the "recreational" level-- definitely not like someone in need of a treatment center.

If that was my daughter, I would have been proud of her ability to use MJ moderately, without making it into a coping tool, without using it excessivly, and without putting it before other aspects of her life (such as school, social life, etc.) I would also be proud of her honesty.

If you do not approve of your daughter's use of MJ, let he know that you consider it unacceptable. Talk to her. Reach some sort of agreement. But, please, do not put her through a treatment program, when she doesn't need one. (I don't know your daughter personally, of course-- just judging by what you posted here).

Good luck.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2004, 09:11:00 AM »
Throwing her in a program will irreversibly fuck her future. Sorry. I'm gonna be blunt.

If it aint broke don't fix it. I would have a talk with her about the possible legal issues and that addiction could becaome a hazard, and at most, get OUT patient treatment.

Throwing her away until she's 18 is a good way to make her want to not have a damn thing to do with you, ever again, and probably turn to harder drugs upon her exit from the program.

She's 17 now anyway, isn't she? Whats the point! Even if you were some evil vindictive maniac bent on keeping her in a program against her will, when she turns 18 you'd have no way to do so.

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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2004, 09:58:00 AM »
She's 17, let her make her own choices. The consequences are hers, not your responsibility.  It?s hard, but you have to let her be who she is, even if that looks like making many mistakes.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2004, 12:33:00 PM »
You know, there are so many people on this forum who were incarcerated for a drug 'problem' they didn't have that I am surprised they haven't come down harder on you for even thinking about putting her in a program.  Even if you want to brainwash her into thinking she has a problem and would be deadinsaneorinjail without your invervention there just isn't the time.  That doesn't mean there aren't those who are prepared to give it a try as long as they get your money.  So if you want to waste your money, ruin your daughter's education/life and sever ties with her for ever then call in the kidnappers.

Alternatively ...

It doesn't sound like you have ever smoked a joint.  It is very easy to hype up the risks of substances with which people are unfamiliar (see - http://http://www.dhmo.org).  Chances are she knows more about MJ than you do.  If you try to tell her it will inevitably shrivel up her brain, make her schizophrenic and turn her into a junkie then she will laugh in your face and rightly so.  Start by educatiating yourself about the facts, not the propaganda.  If you approach it with an open mind you might learn something.  Then you and your daughter will be able to discuss the medical and legal consequences of her drug use in an adult fashion.  And I mean discuss: strong-arm tactics will only drive her drug use underground.  Just make sure you are both on the same page and be prepared to agree to disagree.  You may be able to negotiate a compromise and at least you will know where she is coming from.

Alternatively, you could just let things take their course.  She seems to have her life together so she is not turning to MJ as a prop.  She will probably stop using it altogether after a few years.  Most people do.  Others use it responsibly for decades without any ill effects.

She will be an adult in a matter of weeks.  Time to let go.
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2004, 12:41:00 PM »
Frankly, I would be more concerned if she were developing a nicotine habit.
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2004, 01:56:00 PM »
The real legal risk to a high functioning, nice white girl of getting busted for pot are between slim and none. And even if she does get busted, unlikely as it is, the penalties to a kid like that are usually extremely light. And it sounds like, whatever she's doing, she's got it right. Whether the pot is a good part of the whole picture or not, I can't say. But, based on what you say, I think she'll probably figure it out.

One of the most damaging aspects of the Program is removing and undermining a kid's nascent autonomy. It's hard enough to gain real confidence and competence in this world w/o the adults in your life going out of their way to smash your efforts.

So don't worry, be happy. You're lucky to have a kid who's apparently gorwing up very well and learning to manage her life successfully. And kudos to you for thinking for yourself and not just taking the stock advice to panic over something as trivial as this.

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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2004, 02:14:00 AM »
Your daughter seems to be *otherwise* doing fine.

Almost every parent has their older teenager or young grown offspring do some things they disapprove of.  Sometimes part of the reason for the disapproval is that those things are against the law.

You *should* talk candidly with your daughter about the potential penalties if she is caught, including making sure she knows what amount constitutes "possession with intent to distribute"---which means they treat you as a drug dealer anyway even if you're not.

You also should discuss with her whether you ever used drugs, what your experience was, and why you do not use them now.

You should discuss RICO with her and your concerns that if she stores marijuana or other illegal drugs in your house, the feds might take your house.  They're not as bad about this as they used to be, but it's still a risk.

Discuss the real level of risk and how you feel about it frankly.  Don't inflate it, but don't dismiss it out of hand.

Tell her you don't approve, you want her to stop, and that if you catch her smoking it there will be consequences  (like grounding, etc.)  Tell her the exception is if she's messed up and stranded somewhere---that you would *much* rather her call you than drive herself or get in a car with some other impaired driver.  Tell her that calling home for a *safe* ride home if she's drunk or high is so much more responsible than the alternatives that she won't get in trouble, although you *will* want to discuss the situation when she is sober.

This is important for two reasons---it insulates you from "corrupting the morals of a minor" charges *and* it probably matters to her a lot more than you might think whether you approve or disapprove of it.

And with the concern about how she gets home, you don't come across as some sanctimonious anti-drug crusader---you come across as her parent who loves her, and that means she is more likely to realize your concerns about the drugs are genuine concerns for *her welfare*.

Treat the drugs as a terrible example of her not giving herself enough credit and not valuing herself as much as she's worth.

She sounds like too good a kid to have to take some substance to feel good, instead of just going out and having a good time with all the wonderful things that are out there to do and enjoy *sober*.

Taking a drug for recreation instead of going swimming, or biking, or skating, or hiking, or to a movie, or bowling, or to a concert, or to a party---taking a drug for recreation means you aren't doing enough genuinely fun stuff in your life.  Or that you're real self-conscious about your social skills in groups--and the solution to that is learning better skills or working on your self-confidence.

Anyway, this is a moment for garden-variety parental lectures, expressions of disapproval of the bad behavior, threats to punish if you catch her at it (but not disproportionately harshly) so she knows you really *do* disapprove----just the same normal bag of parental tricks you use when your kid fibs or won't pick up after herself or misses curfew or all the other normal little headaches of parents.

It's bad behavior.  Treat it that way.  But it's less likely to be a sign of reefer-madness sliding down into heroine addiction and overdose than it is to be your garden-variety teenage pushing the envelope to see if Mom cares enough to set limits.

Reassure her by applying normal, consistent parental discipline and she'll probably stop on her own after a month or two to see if you really *do* disapprove.

*OR*--since she's so close to 18---you could pull the "I'm so terribly disappointed, I thought you had better sense, I wish I'd done a better job of communicating common sense while you were young, but if you're going to do this, I hope you get by with it without disaster long enough to decide it's really stupid and stop before you really hurt yourself or someone else."-----you could treat her like an adult child who has disappointed you and not really lived up to your expectations, but whom you still love very much.

Your daughter doesn't need a behavior mod facility.

Your daughter just needs a good old-fashioned dose of Mom-Fu.  The kind you've been applying since she was a toddler.  :smile:

Best of luck with it.

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2004, 12:17:00 AM »
It sounds like she's being honest with you - and that's great. I'd suggest you spend more time with her. If she is going to be 18 - then she needs to make her own choices. The problems associated with smoking MJ can derail her future and she needs to be aware of that. I'd suggest you take her to counseling once a week.  There may be other reasons why she's smoking pot.  Also - get to know her friends and their families.

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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2004, 12:28:00 AM »
Trust her to know what she can handel on her own. If she needs help i bet she will let you know...just be there if :smile:  she does and dont ever stop loving her !
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