You know I sit here reading some of the entries from many loser folks. Don't you have a life!! I spent 3 long years at elan 8 and I have never been so grateful for that experience. Ya see, if not for the persistant, caring, and honorable staff that I had during my stay, I probably would not be who I am today. I give much credit to the staff, students and structure for saving my life. I was once one of you angry punks, who felt that the world owed me everything, and now thanks to Elan, I am a more educated, less angry productive member of my society. Its a shame that so many people are still living their lives with so much anger especially towards people that had your better interest at heart. I am not real familiar with Jeff G, Tanya M. Marty K. etc., as they were not my staff; however when you degrade people that were and are so close to my heart as Drew, Marc R. and Clare I can only find pity on you. Im not saying that I had it easy at e8, as I believe nobody ever did, but I can say I learned more about myself and my surroundings through that experience. I had many shotdowns, many GMs, spent my time in the corner, and in restraints. BOO HOO for me right? WRONG!!! Grow up people. I put myself there, and I got myself out. A much better person I might add. You can respond to this post however you'd like. It doesn't phase me. I stand strong in my beliefs. Ridicule, degrade, laugh, be angry.....your issue,not mine. By the way, I am proud of my time in elan and that is why I do not stand behind an anonymous paper bag. If you believe in who you are , what you stand for, and what you are saying unveil yourselves.....another lesson Elan taught me. Sorry it didnt do the same for most of you.