everyone please read this

[Anonymous]

Hello everyone. I am a former student of the Whitmore. I have been out of it for three months now, and being home they don?t have influence on what I write. Having given this forum chances to grow and evolve into all that it has through numerous efforts of criticism both constructive and downright obnoxious I have come to share my own accounts- the best kind possible due to the fact that I experienced the Whitmore first hand for a year. There is no way to explain to anyone who hasn?t seen for themselves the unusual miracles that occur day and night?what makes this place different from all other programs (I too have been to those horrible lockdowns and have had many a friend thrown about in the system of cruelty and brainwashing) is that it is not anything short of the positive peer pressure and love shown by the students themselves to each other. The kids influence the kids, and with the ultimate goal being to change our lives for our families to be closer, our bodies to be healthier, and our dreams to reach that of helping others overcome their obstacles in their lives. I do not see it fair to put down the staff, the course- just by the fact that no one of the persons behind these entries has experienced the realities 24-7 52 weeks if their teenage hood. We learn principles and values that are what any parent would want their child to grow with, what any human should naturally have, and what any true friend would share with each other. Principles and values such as love, loyalty, commitment, honesty, respect, civility, honor, and many others that couldn?t be wrong in trying to develop! Everyone has their skeletons in their closets, and everyone has something they regret having done, or we would not even need to be here in this day and age of trial, error, and learning. People are mostly good- just as the Whitmore is. Even my own parents know this place has saved my life many times just because I have a reason to overcome, a relationship to learn to be strong in, and a place to call home if ever I am lost. How many teenagers, with a history as torn as some of the kids there, can turn to traveling, schooling, and another family to live by just for a while? I am very sad to read any messages that put down, shut down, or rumors that spread like wildfire in the minds of those who spend too much time on things that do nothing but cause contention. We are in this life together, why then, do we waist time on the wrong program? Use your energy on programs like Ivy Ridge, Spring Creek, others in Missouri, those programs that have truly harmed the children of today! The Whitmore is not anything like them, it nothing short of beautiful even in all its small imperfections that only exist in silly family like quarrels and messy bedrooms! Please, take your hate for programs and devote it to a place that really needs your attention. Don?t waist any more time with this place, and leave them alone, they have done nothing to you or any kids.

[Anonymous]

That's because you are a kid and you don't want to grow-up. Wait until you are through with your phoney cult-support group. You'll find yourself all alone.

[Anonymous]

Did you receive any formal eduation in there?

[Antigen]

Anon #1, please understand the difference between questions and statements. All I know about Whitmore is what I've read on their website, what you've said just now and a very little bit that others have said.

Understand also that these programs are all so similar in fundamental ways that I have a hard time keeping track of the details sometimes. And I don't have time today to pour through info on Whitmore specifically.

So I don't know for sure what the deal is w/ this particular school. It might be great. I doubt it's a miracle. I don't believe in miracles or other magical thinking. I believe what I see and what is consistent w/ my experience.

If you don't mind, I have a few questions about Whitmore and WhoamiDiscovery.

I remember reading some sort of reports on the whoami website that seemed to be written by students about other students. Can you explain that to me a little bit? Who writes them? How do you come to be able to write them? What is the purpose?

I understand there are several different locations in this program. Can you talk about that a little bit? Are any of them out of the country? Are they all more or less the same or are they each different phases of the program?

How do you kids come to be a positive influence on each other? Because, normally, when you pen up a bunch of troubled kids together, as in juvenile detention or some such, they influence each other in a negative way. What exactly makes that positive influence happen?

Are you able to communicate w/ family and others for the whole program or do you have to earn communication priviledges? Is it a lock down facility? Or do they start you out in a remote location, like a desert or something? Or is it more or less voluntary? What happens if you ask to leave? What happens if you try to leave against their wishes?

If you want people to understand Whitmore, please help us by giving us some solid information on which to base an opinion.

A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist

[Anonymous]

Well said. You truly sound like you've been through the Whitmore program. You come at it from a loved based perspective. Were you influenced by Karol Truman's works?

Blessings,
MK

[Anonymous]

On 2004-11-23 20:18:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Well said. You truly sound like you've been through the Whitmore program. You come at it from a loved based perspective. Were you influenced by Karol Truman's works?



Blessings,

MK"