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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2004, 12:04:00 AM »
This was a fun thread in which we discussed masturbation in WWASP facilities:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?mo ... t=20&Sort=
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Hidden Lake Academy, after operating 12 years unlicensed will now be monitored by the state. Access information on the Federal Class Action lawsuit against HLA here: http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17700

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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2004, 08:07:00 AM »
I smell allot of crap is what i smell.
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2004, 08:37:00 AM »
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"I smell allot of crap is what i smell.

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Really?  Then you probably need to check out whatever is on your upper lip.  It might be a good time to wash the...er...egg off your face.

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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2004, 08:38:00 AM »
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"I smell allot of crap is what i smell.

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Or for that matter, perhaps you need to evaluate whether the crap right underneath your nose is going into your mouth, coming out of it, or both.

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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2004, 11:13:00 AM »
Where there is smoke, there is fire.

Where there is shit... well, there's gotta be something making it.  :lol:

A drug is neither moral nor immoral - it's a chemical compound. The compound itself is not a menace to society until a human being treats it as if consumption bestowed a temporary license to act like an asshole.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2004, 11:24:00 AM »
As i said all the same people posting like a little click, The fact is there are not even 50 of you here, i was wrong to give you that many.
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2004, 11:50:00 AM »
::boohoo::  ::boohoo::
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2004, 01:37:00 PM »
You should play the violin for yourself
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2004, 06:23:00 PM »
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"As i said all the same people posting like a little click, The fact is there are not even 50 of you here, i was wrong to give you that many."


That's "clique" you semiliterate moron.
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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2004, 06:39:00 PM »
Yuo don't need to be a jerk anon, so you're french and a jerk. You got the meaning and you don'thave but maybe 30 people on your side.
So who is the moron? Dreamer!
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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2004, 10:22:00 AM »
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"Yuo don't need to be a jerk anon, so you're french and a jerk. You got the meaning and you don'thave but maybe 30 people on your side.

So who is the moron? Dreamer!"


Actually, nobody was being a jerk until *you* started being one.  Sure, I'm a dreamer.  I also monitor this forum on behalf of an informal group of some size (I don't even know how many lurkers beyond the active participants) who all believe the industry needs serious reform.  That includes a parent who did have to put her child in residential treatment, thought the quality of care was definitely problematical, and would like other parents to have better quality of care for *their* actively self-injurious children.

I weed through the garbage (like your program cheerleading) and pass on the actual bits of news, like closings, investigations, deaths, court cases, etc.

Fornits is actually the best forum I've found on the web for up-to-date comprehensive news on the industry as that news breaks.

Unfortunately, the thing that makes Fornits so good--that anyone can post anything--also means that most of the people interested in reforming the industry don't have time to weed through all the cruft for the tidbits of real news.  So I do that for them.

But I can tell already that you're not going to believe in a groundswell of support for reform until you actually see improvements in Reform, Oversight, Safeguards, Enforcement, and Sunshine for yourself.

Maybe you should ask yourself why you're so dead set against improved quality of care for teen residential treatment?

Maybe people reading your postings should ask themselves the same question.

The axe *I* have to grind I've been completely open and upfront about.

What axe do *you* have to grind?  And why haven't you been as forthcoming about it?

If I was just reading this thread instead of participating in it, I'd sure be asking myself those questions.

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« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2004, 11:59:00 AM »
Deborah,

With all respect, I'd like to point out that your post--especially your use of the term "sweetie,"--is pretty condescending to Brown. It's a common theme: the kids who choose to benefit from the programs are too young or dumb or brainwashed to understand how terribly they've been abused. The parents are too traumatized or irresponsible to make decisions for their children's health and welfare.

My experience? The students at our program--Spring Creek--leave here empowered to make the changes THEY want---not the program, not their parents, not their friends, and not strangers on a forum. They leave with an understanding that in the end, they are absolutely capable of determining the direction of their lives. How many adults never understand that?

Brown, way to go. Your honesty and insight are powerful.
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« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2004, 02:35:00 PM »
"My experience? The students at our program--Spring Creek--leave here empowered to make the changes THEY want---not the program, not their parents, not their friends, and not strangers on a forum. They leave with an understanding that in the end, they are absolutely capable of determining the direction of their lives. How many adults never understand that?"


 :eek: DOES THIS INCLUDE $5 AND A TRIP TO THE NEAREST HOMELESS SHELTER?
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« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2004, 02:58:00 PM »
So... being locked up, dominated, terrorized, thrown in bullshit seminars, brutalized with 'restraint' and treated like crap somehow magically  makes them these self-motivated, confident, intelligent, independant go-getter adults? hah!

The only thing these programs 'teach' is how to be a slave to authority

What is this new loyalty? It is, above all, conformity. It is the uncritical and unquestioning acceptance of America as it is. It rejects inquiry into the race question or socialized medicine or public housing, regards as heinous any challenge to what is called the system of private enterprise, identifying that system with Americanism. It abandons evolution, repudiates the once popular concept of progress, and regards America as a finished product, perfect and complete. The concept of loyalty as conformity is a false one. It is narrow and restrictive, denies freedom of thought and conscience... What do men know of loyalty who make a mockery of the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights?
http://www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/unitarians/commager.html' target='_new'>Henry Steele Commager, 1947

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CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2004, 03:46:00 PM »
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"As i said all the same people posting like a little click, The fact is there are not even 50 of you here, i was wrong to give you that many."


So which facility were/are you involved with, anon? I'm just curious as that error (click = clique) was carried, intact, from The Seed to Straight to KIDS, LIFE and possibly other programs. Were you in any of those?

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
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