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This is my last post, people. Besides... This isn't my volleyball court, anyway. So you guys had shitty attitudes, and failed classes, and dished out a myriad of crap that would probably drive parent nuts who wasn't up to the task. So be it.
But, Darren, and Anon (if you have kids)-- I gotta tell you, I feel for your kids not because you want to protect them, but because, like your parents before you,
you do not question the methods that were employed!!!.
Don't you find it suspicious that kids had to be lied to or kidnapped to be brought to the program? Why don't other programs use those tactics? Why aren't kids sat on and threatened on their way to Boy Scouts/Girl Scouts... or the Boys/Girls Clubs... or your local community kids groups?
SARA - Obviously you're a person that is one of those "don't bother me with the facts, my mind's made up type --- so, I'm not trying to change YOUR mind about things - BUT I WILL answer your questions -- just (again) to CLARIFY!
I was not threatened nor kidnapped to go to the program. My parents told me they were taking me for counseling! And they DID. I know SOME parents DID lie to get their kids to the program - and HELL, how many lies did their kids tell them??? I think one lie to them is justified (ESPECIALLY since it was for their own good), and DUH - how many kids WANT to change their negative behaviors through an intense program??? Of course they would TAKE OFF if they knew they were going. These parents WERE NOT DUMB! SO, get over it already, good lord!
Don't you find it suspicious how a legitimate program would admit a child with no prior drug history and no prior drug testing? Isn't it also suspect that this program drew blood tests after "admission" and never gave the results, but went forth to mentally pulverize kids into admitting a drug problem they may not have had?
The program was labled a Drug Rehab, and yes, you needed to have done SOME type of drugs upon entering, but the program dealt with ATTITUDES, communication and self-esteem issues - NOT drugs. They was no access to drugs... we talked about what GOT us to drugs...feelings, etc.
Doesn't it
bother you that you can walk into one of these places and say "My kid's on drugs", and it can be totally false, and they'll take them anyway, sight unseen?
Read answer above...
Isn't it also convenient that the records were destroyed? That way, no one could actually
prove that they had no drug history, and could simply be chalked up to being in some sort of druggie denial?
Ummm... that's universal in counseling, that records are destroyed some years after treatment ends. Do you really expect paperwork to be still in existance a decade after the fact?? Come on!
Like I said before - I may have had a weird situation... but I wasn't the only one.
Why didn't the "professionals" question why the chunky kid's "drug list" was only "Dexatrim", and furthermore, why was the eleven year old sibling was admitted -- whose only crime was being a sibling to the chunky kid who took Dexatrim?
Again - drug use was a SYMPTOM of the REAL problem --- see comments above.
Why did the "professionals" deem it necessary to cease all forms of education during phases 1-2. Some people never reached third phase for a year. Any idea what that does to a scholastic record? There were a few 4.0 students in there with me. I wonder if they ever made it to college after a few months to a year's absence.
The program's stance on that was that MOST kids were at school o socialize by that point anyway --- they didn't give a CRAP about their grades before entering, and the focus needed to be on THEMSELVES for a while, THEN they could return to school work... If they just did what they could to LOOK at themselves and make some changes in their behavior and attitudes, they could return in 3, 4, 5 months tops! I missed 3 months myself...but I was failing 11th grade before entering the program , and made HONOR ROLL upon returning! hmmm... how'd THAT happen?!?
Where did these "professionals" get their medical degrees? We were told in "Girls Rap" that if you had a weird female problem (and I'll refrain from the actual symptoms) , a simple "clear water douche" would clear it right up. This meant water that came from the bathroom sink. If you had severe acne, you should scrub really well with a super hot washcloth (completely contraindicated in real medicine). If you got a rash, it was the "drugs trying to come out".
I don't have the "degree's" and school listing for the many executive staff who worked at LIFE, but I DO remember the framed degrees hanging in their offices. As for your comments re: Girls rap ---
I never had those issues -- sorry you did.
Damn!
I could go on and on. Too many walls in this maze, though. Bottom line -- there was a lot of shit that was force fed that defied logic. Some swallowed it willingly. Some spit it back, and will continue to slap the spoons out of the hands of anyone trying to feed someone else from the same pile of dung.
God bless your kids... they're gonna need it.
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My kids are doing pretty darn well, thank you. (And they are TRULY blessed by God daily, as am I) Their parents AREN'T afraid to give them what they need --- unlike your obvious fear of doing something they MAY NOT LIKE (within parenting). Heaven knows kids KNOW BEST, and we should always do what they WANT! lol Please don't just give kids what they want. That is NOT parenting.
