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Roots of the Industry: Religion/Psychiatry- And the Justific
« on: October 23, 2004, 02:27:00 PM »
You've probably notice some similarities between Religion and Psychiatry, but never quiet put your finger on them. This excellent piece walks one through the history from Religion to Psychiatry, which is the foundation for, or justification for teen BM facilities.
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When psychiatry and clinical psychology were born,
they adopted the then-prevailing moral beliefs of
society and by a neat linguistic parlor trick turned religious beliefs into scientific theories.
"Sin" became "sickness."
"Punishment" became "treatment."
"Unnatural" became "abnormal."
"Reconciliation" became "cure."

From: http://radicalacademy.com/pggameintro.htm
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Harsh treatment of most forms of deviant behavior was justified because the perpetrator had violated the laws of God (as pronounced, of course, by the religious leaders), or had violated laws of the State, most of which looked to religion for their justification.

Social deviants were sinners of the worst sort and both religious and social condemnation were appropriate. Later, as the influence of religion waned and the influence of "science" grew, the treatment accorded to social deviants changed. This is particularly true with respect to the development of Western psychiatry and psychology. As a result of this new influence, the justification for oppression of social deviancy also changed.

What has occurred, according to some observers, is that psychiatric oppression of social deviancy has replaced religious oppression of it. The attempt now is to legitimize the harm done by psychiatry (rather than religion) to a deviant individual. There are, according to Dr. Szasz, three main justifications for oppression of those who dare to deviate from the moral or social sanctions of a particular society.

1. "We" are human, but "they" are not.

The trick here is to turn the group to be oppressed into something other than human. By doing so, any member of that group is immediately removed from moral consideration. Common human morality no longer applies and things may be done to the members of the group without considering the morality of such.

Historical Examples
Jews - from human to "vermin"
Negroes - from human to "chattel"
Mental patient - from human to "sick organism"
Witches - from human to "evil beings"
Heretics - from human to "devils"
Women - from human to "property"

2. The victimizer claims "he" himself is the victim
The trick here is to argue that the group to be oppressed constitutes a threat to the ordinary, peace-loving citizen. The victimizer argues that he is a victim and must defend himself against these enemies.

Historical Examples
Jews - economic threat
Negroes - sexual threat
Heretics - religious threat
Witches - social threat
Communists - political threat

3. "They" are a threat, not to "us," but to "themselves"
Doctor Szasz argues that this is probably the most fashionable justification used today. We may oppress certain individuals or coerce them into accepting oppression because it is our "duty" to "save" them and "we" know what is "best" for them.

Historical Examples
Heretics - need to be "saved" or "reborn"
Mental patient - needs forced "treatment"
Children - need "protection"
Women - need "protection"
Negroes - need "guidance" and "protection"
From: Thomas Szasz, M.D., Psychiatric Slavery (New York: The Free Press, 1977), pp. 6-7.

These justifications are important because society must have reasons for what it does, even for its oppressive practices toward individuals or groups who constitute a minority or are, for some reason or other, not in the mainstream of, say, American life. These justifications are not used only for religious and psychiatric sanctions of deviant behavior, however. They are increasingly used for legal sanctions as well. And herein lies a major problem for believers in a society of free individuals.

People who manifested behavior deemed unacceptable, troublesome, or "perverse," were viewed as suffering from immorality. The "disease" was moral, not mental or medical. The cure was religious. The means for curing the moral "disease" ranged from religious confession to burning the victim at the stake. While most people have now rejected this, some remnants of it still remain in our culture.

During the latter of the nineteenth century, the religious model came under attack. With the advent Sigmund Freud and his disciples, a new model was proposed. It was not the soul that was "sick," but the mind. A whole new group of caretakers was created: the psychiatrists and psychotherapists.

New words and new definitions of old words entered our language as a result of the influence of psychiatry and psychology. We now speak of people being neurotic or psychotic, of repression, manic-depressive, Oedipus complex, sublimation, and so forth. Language has become an instrument of oppression itself. Language categorizes individuals into normal and abnormal, friend or foe, sick or well, harmless and dangerous, good and evil.

Psychotherapy has become a parlor game where every action is analyzed to death to see what is really meant by it. The "Freudian slip" becomes a tool for probing the inner depths of the psyche and the couch becomes the symbol of the psychiatric battlefield. Psychotherapy replaces religion as the healer of the soul and the office of the psychotherapist replaces the confessional box.

It is interesting to note that Dr. Mowrer mentioned that psychiatry and clinical psychology have not validated themselves. That is, in my interpretation, just another way of saying that there is no conclusive scientific evidence to support the theories that psychiatrists, clinical psychologists, and other "mental health professionals" so profoundly propound. The theories, and therefore the so-called "treatments," rest on assumptions which these practitioners have simply accepted as being true. Many of these assumptions have really been transferred carte-blanche from the religious realm to the realm of "scientific" psychiatry and psychology.

Anyone who defied social conventions and practiced certain "perversions" or unapproved actions, sexual or otherwise, was considered a candidate for psychiatric therapy. It was that person's "duty" to seek proper "treatment" so he or she could get "well." The deviant, of course, was not truly responsible for the aberrant behavior, as he or she was according to the religious model, but the deviant had a clear obligation to seek "treatment" and to cooperate in that enterprise. Failing to do so could result in involuntary "treatment" and this, of course would be done for "their own good." The third justification for victimization!

Entire article at the link above.
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2004, 02:45:00 PM »
What's also interesting is how our legal system also uses the field of psychology. The courts actually send children to these youth programs for "therapy." They also mandate psycho-therapy for some offenders.  

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2004, 01:21:00 AM »
You look upon psychiatry as enthroning religious prejudices in technical language.  I see it the other way entirely.  Freud advanced a necessary and revolutionary concept - psychiatry will not pass moral judgements.  That made it possible to look objectively at such things as - say - homosexuality.  That made it possible for a deadly sin to evolve into an alternate lifestyle, to the point that one of the Protestant sects just appointed a gay Bishop.  That one change of viewpoint was one of the factors that has destroyed the political power of organized religion in the Western World.  (Our Bill of Rights was another.)  It's one of the things that the Islamic world is deathly afraid of, which is one of the reasons they finance terrorists.  

There is, however, a horrible flip side to Freud's revolutionary concept.  When you decline to pass moral judgements, you can rationalize ANYTHING.  (Kind of like "There is no right or wrong, only working and non-working.)  

When Hitler came to power in Germany, the German psychiatric community fell in behind him gladly.  They had hospitals and institutions full of the mentally ill and mentally retarded that they could not help.  Hitler's proposal to exterminate the lot of them was just the ticket, and they did so with grat enthusiasm.  The gas chambers and crematoria at Auschwitz were modeled after smaller versions built in German mental hospitals years earlier.  (My Russian professor at school claimed that as recently as the 1980s, the law in East Germany required that Downs Syndrome babies be euthanized at birth.)  

When Brezhenev came into power in the Soviet Union, mass extermination of suspected non-believers had become politically unworkable.  His solution was to throw dissidents into mental hospitals where they were tortured with drugs and other "therapies."  Once again, there was no moral compass to prevent it.  The Soviet Psychiatric community became a tool of the oppressors.  

You are right that a lot of prejudices have found their way into psychiatry, but they did so through the social attitudes of the shrinks.  Religion had little or no direct role in my view.  

Whenever a group of people - an army, a police force, or the staff of a "behavior modification" school, decides that it is not answerable to any moral compass but its own, awful things can happen.  Guys who started out as decent human beings can end up pouring cyanide into the "showers" and thinking it's OK because they're following orders.  

The guys who carried out Stalin's purges were not inhuman monsters, or even raving fanatics.  I knew their ideological descendents and they seemed a fairly decent bunch.  The ones I talked to seemed fairly rational.  The fanaticism and inhumanity was built into the system and anyone who made himself part of the system bought into it automatically.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2004, 11:56:00 AM »
I can't speak for any other faith, but I do know that Christians of an evangelical/fundamentalist ilk are generally opposed to psychotherapy/ psychiatry, precisely because God is so completely removed from the equation.

From a Christian perspective, the only answer to mankind's mental and emotional health problems is Jesus Christ. Truly, if a person strives to follow the instruction book and trust God, they would have a lot less stress and personal turmoil in their life.

Anyway, the idea that man can heal himself - that values and morals are not absolute, is counter to Christianity and viewed as part of the Great Lie. In subtle ways, it is man making himself god; and this is always going to lead to the kind of things Jeff describes above; because the heart of man is depraved and selfish; and if men have no one to answer to but themselves - why not do as they please and call it right?

There are similarities between psychological mind control and cultic mind control. But its a mistake to view the cults as Christian. They are as much a perversion of the truth of God's will as is any other device of man to gain control. There are many false shepherds seeking to fleece the flock and this is why it is so important to be well grounded in scripture. Assuming the reader cares what God has to say as opposed to what some man might say. If not, I suppose you might as well do as you please and call it right. But its only fair to warn you; who ever you might be; there will come a time when you will be held accountable.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2004, 02:47:00 PM »
I'm w/ Nietzsche and Jethro Tull on this one. People invent their own morality and authority structure. Then they create a deity to lend themselves moral authority to enforce it on others.

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