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Some highlights from "Help At Any Cost"
« on: September 05, 2006, 11:45:58 AM »
I read the book a couple weeks ago.  There were a few paragraphs that I thought were particularly poignant so I thought I'd post 'em here.

These highlights are all from Chapter 9, which is where Maia finally cuts to the chase after building her case outta individual stories in the previous 8.

Page 249:

"...The atmosphere in the programs - in which emotional attacks are unrelenting, privacy is non-existent, sleep and food deprivation are common, and the person has little if any control over his environment - is exactly the type that research has found most likely to produce PTSD.

The more researchers learn, in fact, the greater the evidence becomes that being put in any kind of situation of total powerlessness for a significant length of time has the capacity to produce lasting damage to the brains' stress system, especially when it happens to a young person.  This damage has been linked not only to PTSD, but to increased risk for depression, addiction, other mental illnesses, and even immune-system disorders and cancer..."

Page 251:

"...Kids report simply being thrown into the programs'daily activities with no opportunity to process what has happened.  Their perfectly rational anger, hurt, and desire to escape are framed as pathological 'denial,' which must be broken down until they reach 'acceptance' and come to praise their captors and keepers..."

My comment: Psychological whiplash!!!!  This is where the trauma all started for me. Right on day 1.  Sometimes I still feel like I'm in shock.  I think that's part of what PTSD is...living in a state of constant emotional shock.

Page 252:

"...tough love programs impose greater restrictions and limits than most parents would set for grade-schoolers.  Such a developementally mistimed intervention is unlikely to foster healthy familial connections and emotional growth, even if the child complies..."

Page 253:

"...for teens in these programs, there are no opportunities to begin to explore romantic relationships: contact with the opposite sex, let alone dating, is barely allowed.  Friendships are impoverished by the constant pressure to 'turn in' ones' fellows for misbehavior, and the depth of the betrayal that can result when secrets disclosed in confidence are used to advance a 'friend' at your expense.  Tough love participants are left behind to play catch-up in almost every life area.  They are also socialized to behave in ways that aren't conducive to relational health.  For example, as Kyrsten Bean described it, the WWASP program made her so hard on her friends that they became afraid to turn to her when in crisis because she was so judgemental and blunt.  In the outside world, most people don't believe that it is appropriate or helpful to prod people in their emotional sore spots -- but tough love participants are taught that this is an act of love for which they should be thanked..."

My comment: God damn!!!  I can totally relate!!!  This is exactly what I've been tryin' to explain for years, to my friends, who can't understand why I struggle so much.  $tr8 was so fucked up in so many ways.  They made me sick.  I mean just when I was about to enter manhood and seek my place in the world and in society they completely and totally removed me from it, spent years brainwashing me into socially unnacceptable and socially stunted behavior and then released me back into the world just at the age when I should have been self-supporting and independent.  I mean it's crazy to me that they even expected me to be able to function socially at all, after everything I'd been through...WTF was I supposed to do ??  I was homeless and semi-homeless off an' on, but mostly on, for about a decade after $tr8.  Even now I live on the fringe of society.  While my friends went to high scool and college and dated girls and got married and started famillies and kept jobs I struggled just to understand why I couldn't keep a job or otherwise relate...And not to say that I would have necessarily wanted all those things, but it would have been nice to have had the choice and not have my circumstances dictated to me by the abuse I suffered at the hands of $tr8.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2006, 04:25:07 PM »
I just ain't pissed about it any more. I could best your story, maybe, cause I stepped into the Twilight Zone as young as around 6 years old. When I got out, well I don't know if it was more blessing or curse, but there was no "normal" for me to return to. On the one hand, that was just horrifying. I so often felt like I were falling through endless space in life with no guiding light, nowhere to take refuge or find purchase. But, on the other hand, I hadn't had my hopes up. I had already decided by age 15 or so that I had been born to be an outrider and would just seek to be a damned good one and enjoy the trip.

And so I find myself at that age when ppl start to feel their mortality like a rock in your shoe and still I just endevour to be what I iz and love every minute of it.
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Re: Some highlights from "Help At Any Cost"
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2006, 04:48:48 PM »
Quote from: ""starry-eyed pirate""
My comment: God damn!!! I can totally relate!!! This is exactly what I've been tryin' to explain for years, to my friends, who can't understand why I struggle so much. $tr8 was so fucked up in so many ways. They made me sick. I mean just when I was about to enter manhood and seek my place in the world and in society they completely and totally removed me from it, spent years brainwashing me into socially unnacceptable and socially stunted behavior and then released me back into the world just at the age when I should have been self-supporting and independent. I mean it's crazy to me that they even expected me to be able to function socially at all, after everything I'd been through...WTF was I supposed to do ?? I was homeless and semi-homeless off an' on, but mostly on, for about a decade after $tr8. Even now I live on the fringe of society. While my friends went to high scool and college and dated girls and got married and started famillies and kept jobs I struggled just to understand why I couldn't keep a job or otherwise relate...And not to say that I would have necessarily wanted all those things, but it would have been nice to have had the choice and not have my circumstances dictated to me by the abuse I suffered at the hands of $tr8.

.......... ::boohoo::  ::boohoo::  ::boohoo::

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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2006, 09:19:35 PM »
You're a hoot.

Know some Charlie Daniels ??  "Devil went down to Florida" ??

 8)

...Fucker.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2006, 09:35:07 PM »
Miller Newton touched my junk liberally. He strapped me in to his Straightmobile and he
couldn't keep his offensive hands off of me. He was performing many red flag touches. I
couldnt believe what the fuck was going on. I told Miller Newton the city would not approve
of a millionaire touching an underage kid for free. Can you believe it? Miller Newton did all this. He picked me off the street, strapped my arms and legs down in the Straightmobile's passenger seat, and just wouldn't stop fondling my cock'n'balls.
They definately were red flag touches. The goddamn referee he had in the back seat kept on
raising up this red flag every time he touched my junk but did "Dr." Newton care? NO WAY! He
just kept on doing it. I couldn't believe what the fuckwas going on, indeed. I pleaded with
Miller Newton but to no avail. I told him the city would not approve of such a wealthy man
touching an underage kid like me (at the time I was 13) without at least compensating me for
the trauma and the use of my body as his own personal plaything.
This got to him, worrying about his image. he continued to fondle me, all the while ignoring
the referee's red flags. Then he drove the Straightmobile to my house and ejected the seat I was in! It was amazing. But surprisingly, after I woke up the next morning, my bank account had $150k in it!!! Can you believe it?????????????????????????
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2006, 11:15:43 PM »
Quote from: ""Str8survivorVA""
what a great book.  I gave it to my mom to read.  It truly begins to espsose what we were a part of, but, what  struck me the most about the book was that the book did not address what/who was behind it all. WHY did we do this?  WHO was this social experiment targeting?  WHAT did they hope to accomplish?  Yes.  All of these things happened.   but what was the point???



$$$$ and smug satisfaction for the parents/execs who really believed they were "helping kids get off drugs"
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2006, 11:28:27 PM »
Let me take a moment here to tell you all that SIBS is the wave of the future in drug treatment! Come on down & take free tour of our facilities!
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2006, 11:55:42 PM »
Quote from: ""Str8survivorVA""
All of these things happened. but what was the point???


The point? There is no point. Just like the three fat ladies, and that's all the point they need.

Seriously. I think different people involved in the whole thing have different objectives and motives. Here's another good damned book you might want to check out for some insight.

The Underground History of American Education
http://johntaylorgatto.com/underground/index.htm

Of all of Gatto's work, this is the exhaustive tome. It's got a good deal of background and history along w/ his ideas about how and why our schooling system has come to what it has. From my view, there's not much difference between the schooling system and the Program except as a matter of degrees. And it's relatively safe to talk about the school system, whereas any discussion about the Program w/ anyone who hasn't been there always starts from and usually stalls in the middle of that bit about "Uh uh! Did not! Couldn't have happened, no fuckin WAY!" whereas everybody knows the school system at least exists!

The interesting part of this book as regards your question is the published, verifiable documentation of what the designers were thinking, what they had to say about their own work at the time they were doing it. In a nutshell, they viewed themselves as the superior social class, even an evolved race very much akin to Hitler's veiw of things. They believed it was God's will and destiny for them to take care of us lessor other races and cultures, to save us from our worthless, pointless lives and to house break us, so to speak, so that we at least could live productive lives (i.e. useful to them as factory workers and such)

Same shit and it's nothing new. Just another one of those dark aspects of human nature that we all try to unsee. God but I envy those who are able to carry it off.
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2006, 12:08:49 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2006, 08:58:45 AM »
Quote from: ""Eudora""
God but I envy those who are able to carry it off.

Eudora, I see that there is hope for you yet!
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