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« on: September 25, 2004, 07:44:00 AM »
Please help free a child from the straight inc spawn Growing Together Inc by signing this pettition to Jeb Bush... (You can keep your name anonymous online)  check out the link

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/772269487

Also if there are any lawyers out there who know anything about bringing about a class action law suit for some in the program right now, please email me at eighthstep@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Kathy
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2005, 11:43:00 AM »
CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IT IS YOU KNOW ABOUT GROWING TOGETHER  I WAS THINKING ABOUT SENDING MY CHILD THERE, BUT NOT SO SURE AFTER READING THIS?
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2005, 12:06:00 PM »
My advice?  Don't do it. I am now 30 + years past my experience in The Seed in Ft.Lauderdale, FL.  These programs are not what they appear to be.

If you want to break your child's spirit and psyche, a place like Growing Together is the surest way to do so.  You may see a few glowing reports in the local newspaper about program "successes" but understand, there is more harm than help to be found there.

I spent my high school years essentially shut out from all normal activity and contact with other teens.  They called me a zombie...  I was afraid to talk to anyone for fear of being sent back and having to start the program over.  It also made me psychologically vulnerable to successive abusive relationships.  And, I have seen that very fact with three people sent to The Seed at the same time I was.  All four of us have had some very difficult times as a result to the "programming" we were exposed to. We are still friends 30 years later - but man they have been some very tough years.

I don't see any difference in the methodolgy used by these programs even after thrity years.  If the method is not different, the result can't really be different, either. What else could be expected when the primary methodology of the programming is to break down the child's will and "rebuild" using their "tools" which are really mind control techniques.  

Once it is drummed into your head that you are a bad person (they used to tell us we were full of shit when our input to the group discussion waivered from the formulaed "rap") you figure out that the only way to get out,get back home or earn more privileges is to admit and proclaim the wretchedness of your being.  That negative programming has a way of staying with you. Especially if you are a young teen.  

I was 15 when my parents bought the "your child will end up dead, insane or in jail" line that was The Seed's mantra to parents looking for help.  

This place is not the only resource out there.

Would you want to lose your ability to chose what you wanted in life? To have all of your decisions made for you and to always have a need to have the decision you do make confirmed or approved by others and still be riddled with self-doubt at the same time?    

Parents usually want to raise independent, thinking children.  These kind of programs take away your ability (as a parent)  to impress your life values, morals and lessons upon your own child.  Why give up that responsibity to a program of people who cannot function outside of the strict confines of their own program world?

If you do go speak to them, remember this:  Their selling techniques will cause you to doubt your ability to handle this problem and to create fear in your heart about the fate of your child.  If you do go talk tothem, resolve before you go, not to make any placement decision. They will try to get you to commit the chid right then - but don't do that. Take time to reflect on your decision, as your decision will have life long effects on your child.  

If my child had legal problems - arrests for drugs, juvenile problems, mental health etc., despite the hardship that would present, this is not the alternative I would choose.  

It is expensive.  You will undoubtedly lose control of the direction, depth, and trust your child has in his or her relationship with you.

Sometimes kids behave like asses, but they do grow out of it.  Some take longer than others.   In my opinion, your money might be better spent on a private family therapist. If you have limited resources, check the local United Way for a sliding fee scale family therapist.

If your child is actually addicted to some kind of drug, and you can get a trusted physician to give you an unbiased, medically-based opinion of that fact - I'd seek medical help first. stay away from the "cure all" approach they will offer - Test them  Ask exactly what kind of problems they are medically qualified to deal with. Ask to see their credentials.  And if the child is addicted, then he or she needs to be in a real hospital medical setting.  Not in a punishment-base program.  
 

You can send me a personal message if you want to exchange more information privately.
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2005, 12:31:00 AM »
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On 2005-05-24 08:43:00, Anonymous wrote:

"CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IT IS YOU KNOW ABOUT GROWING TOGETHER  I WAS THINKING ABOUT SENDING MY CHILD THERE, BUT NOT SO SURE AFTER READING THIS?

AG"


I know that GT gew out of LIFE which grew out of Staight, Inc. in Sarasota. Straight grew out of The Seed, of which Stripe speaks. I know about these programs because my family got wrapped up in it when I was just around 6 years old, culminating in a court battle to get me out when I was almost 18.

In a word, it's a hell far worse than anything your kid might be into voluntarily. The minute your kid decides that they have made a mistake and want to come home, they can. If you put them in GT, you've drawn a line in the sand w/ you on one side w/ the Parent group and they on the other side all alone. GT promises magical, utopian answeres to whatever vexes you as a parent. But they're FOS! What they actually do is seperate you from your own child, tell you what you want to hear and withhold contact w/ you from your child till they're ready to support their raft of lies.

Don't buy it! There's not a damned thing they promise that you can't do yourself. Deep down, you know that. Just love and support your child in the long haul and have a little bit of faith in them to come back to your wisdom if their innovations don't work out exactly as planned. And have enough integrity to admit to yourself when (not if) their innovations prove out.

Just have faith, ok? Don't take any plug nickles.

God is the Asylum of Ignorance.
--Baruch Spinoza, Dutch-Jewish philosopher

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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2005, 12:46:00 PM »
My brother is at GT now and I think it is a cult and wish we would have preformed further research. Please reconsider putting your child there.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2005, 05:19:00 PM »
:wstupid: Listen anonymous parent, you need to know that this forum is a NEGATIVE view on these types of long term treatment facilities. I just happened to check out this website to see what kind of bullshit the angry kids from treatment had to say and honestly, it made me laugh. I believe these kids have serious anger at their parents, life, or whatever because their lives are so miserable. I mean you have to blame somebody for your fucked up life, right? I am a former graduate and my life is damn good today. So, there you go, hope it helps.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2005, 12:31:00 PM »
Thankyou very much for saying things positive about Growing together. I had my reservations but now i feel better.. Thankyou.. Perhaps u can share the positives with me.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2005, 10:41:00 AM »
Executive staff is a joke at Growing Together.  They are nazi-like, pms, bad decision making women who DO NOT have the better interest of your child.  They think it is more important for Parents to drink the GT Kool-Aid and believe every word that comes out of their mentally impaired minds.

I just pulled my kid!
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2005, 10:36:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-31 07:41:00, staffsux wrote:

"Executive staff is a joke at Growing Together.  They are nazi-like, pms, bad decision making women who DO NOT have the better interest of your child.  They think it is more important for Parents to drink the GT Kool-Aid and believe every word that comes out of their mentally impaired minds.



I just pulled my kid!"


Kudos to a Thinking parent.  So... how is kid doing?
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2005, 09:34:00 AM »
My Daughter is doing great!  She does not need a certificate of completion to know that she has done this program.  I am coming more to terms with how much I was deceived as to what type of people really run this organization. I think that brainwashing is most definitely used.  I think that executive staff members use these techniques in ALL ways that benefit them and them alone!
These are the worst kind of people
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2005, 10:18:00 AM »
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"My Daughter is doing great!  She does not need a certificate of completion to know that she has done this program.  I am coming more to terms with how much I was deceived as to what type of people really run this organization. I think that brainwashing is most definitely used.  I think that executive staff members use these techniques in ALL ways that benefit them and them alone!

These are the worst kind of people"

You got that right, sister.  Bully for you.
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2005, 07:50:00 PM »
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"My Daughter is doing great!  She does not need a certificate of completion to know that she has done this program.  I am coming more to terms with how much I was deceived as to what type of people really run this organization. I think that brainwashing is most definitely used.  I think that executive staff members use these techniques in ALL ways that benefit them and them alone!

These are the worst kind of people"


Don't let the guilt consume you.  You have your daughter, and she will always appreciate the fact that you stood by her, and not some arbitrary set of rules devised by someone else on how to run your lives.

You're a hero in my book.
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2005, 02:07:00 PM »
Thanks for your support!  I am being re-educated here.  What a great site!  I think its really ridiculous that Parents are NOT allowed to talk to us since we pulled our daughter.  Isn't that like the first rule of a cult??
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2005, 02:11:00 PM »
Rigid control of comunications is a hallmark of cults in general.  The one you're dealing with is extremely weird. too.
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