anyone from plymouth straight?

[2dogs]

Just trying to keep this topic somewhere near the top. Thought I saw a few familar names from around these sites and wanted to give em' a place to jump in without having to go up against all the "leagalize dope" folks. So sick of that shit. I just wanna yak with "my" people about our time there and how it's going now. Whatever.  Anyone new around here from Plymouth?   .....Joey

[dreammagician]

What a strange world we live in. I have a really good friend whom has helped me dramasticaly at work. I work for a law firm. Anyways, she is from Ann Arbor. Wow, I can't beleive they started straights up there. I went through the St. Pete program back in the early 80s. I heard that Ann Arbor is a cool place. I think dearly of all of the people who had to suffer in the hands of pro love. Peace.

[Anonymous]

On 2002-11-23 22:54:00, 2dogs wrote: "and wanted to give em' a place to jump in without having to go up against all the "leagalize dope" folks. So sick of that shit."

Please for give us for wanting to change things so that Less kids are less likely to be put in such places as Straight.


ba ba sheepole have you any will,

No sir, No sir, Straight has got it still!



Unless we as a people (not sheepole) are we going to make any progress against some of these Mind fuckers.  we are all screwed. Do you have an aversion to the truth!




I am so tired of prohibitionist shit :flame:


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[Anonymous]

Here ya go!
http://dfaf.org/gazebo_frame.html

[kaydeejaded]

You would think that with war, aids, poverty, terror, depression, fear, opression, and all that shit that we could smoke a joint in peace. But no. God forbid we should do something as simple and non threatening as smoke a doob. Sometimes I wonder about this place.  ::

[2dogs]

Is one topic too much to ask for? You have got the entire rest of the board.  Like a bunch of bullies , you are going to make sure everyone see's the light , even if they don't want to hear about it.  Kinda reminds me of a different time in my life...Give someone a keyboard and all of the sudden he/she is not "powerless" any more. Like the nerdy kids who became dickhead cops.  What... are you going to make everyone admit they have a "war on drugs problem" , and have them make up stories about how they use to not care , but now they see how they were wrong and are going to make a change so they can move on (on the board) and make it to a higher phase so they can have disscussions with people about other topics than the war on drugs. Give me shit if you want about being angry. I am , a little . Finally found a way back to a lost childhood where talking with other 's like me made it "ok" and now every time I post anything , someone has to reply with how lame I am for not realizing that my topic has nothing to do with the war on the "war on drugs" and tells me something about how the Semblers are still out there and how we must get em'.  I'm not totally ignorant to what's happening. I read most of the latest crap. I just don't care. As hard as it is to believe , some people couldn't care less. Why try and make me care? Why is it so important that everyone be part of the "group conscience" ? What's the harm of letting others use these forums freely , without interest for the "cause"? Kinda like some religious cult that can't sustain it's belief with out getting everyone to believe...Looks like Straight fully suceeded when it taught us how to mob and confront anyone who isn't going our why.
   ANYONE FROM PLYMOUTH STRAIGHT?
  That was the original topic. It would be nice to  have this topic a starting point for MI folks to come and say hi without being bombarded with the war. Just finding these sites is a little overwhelming. You can't help but see that there is a war going on and if someone wants ,they will surely join. Myself , I've never wanted anything to do with anything I've be, forced, pushed or minipulated into. I fully respect everyones right to speak freely. But when one just inserts thier veiw into a completely different topic...You all have the right to do that ,but it is just bad manners and really frustrating....2dogs

[Anonymous]

On 2002-11-25 11:10:00, 2dogs wrote: "I just don't care. As hard as it is to believe , some people couldn't care less. Why try and make me care?"

It is exactly this type of attitude (not just about drugs, about our entire governmental policy) that got us to the Fucked up lame ass place we are currently at.

 ::soapbox:: Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics does not take an interest in you.

You claim to have read the posts around here, and if you had, you certainly would see that going off topic is not uncommon. You are taking too much of this to heart, chill out :smokin:

If ya let the stress get to ya, you look end up looking like this-> :silly:

[Antigen]

All due respect, 2dogs, but you're the one bitching about drug policy discussion. I don't think anyone's complained about yours (or anyone else's) lack of interest in the topic. Ask a question, get an answer. Careful what you wish for, I guess.

If you want to talk about something other than the war on users of certain unpatentable drugs and still talk about Straight, Inc., well... good luck. They're up to their eyeballs in rigging drug policy to their advantage.
http://www.ips-dc.org/projects/drugpolicy/ohio.pdf

But there are a lot of (off topic) threads in these forums that don't even mention drug policy. Feel free to engage in those. Or start a new one. But don't be surprised if any discussion relating to Straight eventually comes around to the war. To do otherwise would be like not talking about the elephant in the room.

[2dogs]

I happen to be enjoying this "lame ass fucked-up place we are living in".There has to be an elephant in the first place to ignor. I don't get high, I rarely break the law , I don't even drink. The war on drugs will do NOTHING to me or my family or really any of the people I hang-out with so I don't give a shit about fighting for someone else's right to smoke dope without going to jail. I don't ever have to worry about another drug offense or DUI. I don't even care if the cops want to search my truck. I know YOU don't want to get busted and don't want others like you getting busted and having kids get sent to shit-hole rehabs , so go ahead and fight and protest ,I would If I were you. But don't forget that most of the people in this country don't get high or don't get high often enough to worry about fighting for the right to party.  Just because we all here were locked up in Straight shit -holes doesn't mean we all care to be part of "the movement". You say "I'm the only one bitching". You could only wish that were true. Why do you think there are 200+ members  and you and a couple of your newcomers are doing all the groaning. I'm just the only jackass that is dumb enough to ask you to mind your own business. I mean I know that you have absolutely no control , you totally can't let shit go. You'll have to come up with something clever to show me the light.  BTW , ANTI... I didn't know you were in Plymouth Straight...2dogs

[2dogs]

I thought Antigen wrote both replies so , sorry. Half of that " fuck-off" goes to "nameless"...dogs

[dreammagician]

So we all don't stay on topic. Big whoopie shit. Who really freakin gives a hoot. You know, talkin about movin up the phase, like getting in conversations. Give me a damn break. If I want to go off topic, I fuckin will. You will never ever control me. I think we were all controlled enough already. Welp, don't mean to piss anyone off but I beleive marijuana will be legalized eventually. I'm glad you don't smoke pot, just leaves more for me. hehehh

[METALGOD8]

Hi 2DOGS. I can understand what you are saying. I had many people tell me to go jump in the creek when we were inviting people to the reunion. I think for me, this is not about getting sembler, it is about the whole damn thing. straight inc never should have existed, EVER. You don't have to care now, that's OK. Sometimes I wish it would all go away. One problem, it won't. Maybe Plymouth was a bit tame compared to St Pete and the others, that could have something to do with your situation. I think they were all bad, didn't belong here, and feel like my parents and I were suckered into this cult which pisses me off. Sure, I had done 30 different drugs and needed some direction in life, but not that kind of treatment. I can understand how you would not want to be "forced" into the movement so I won't try! LOL... One of my jamming partners gets highly pissed off when the word straight inc is mentioned, so I try not to mention it too much around him. One day maybe he will see what I am doing and want to help. We survivors are a minority 2DOGS and we are also in finite supply. After we are all dead it won't matter anymore. In the meantime, I would like to see some changes with respect to these mind control freaks. Offering a suggestion: I found the best way to locate people in the program was to use the yellow pages on the internet. If you remember their names, then you will have an easier time, of course. Well, good luck MG8

[quddusism]

yo 2 dogs thanx for keeping this thread afloat.   :cool:

[Anonymous]

No, I wrote the Anon post, sorry I was too lazy to log in.



I guess you didn't get the point of the last post. It was not about drugs. It was about people with an "I don't give a shit" attitude toward ALL politics.



Sodomy is against the law (unless you are a politician), but if the chick I am screwin' likes to get fucked in the ass, why should either of us have to go to jail for it. What right does the government have to come intrude behind closed doors?



There are just toooooooooo may stupid ass laws because of dumb fucks like you who think that as long as it's not me, it's all ok.



I believe that it was Martin Niemvller who said:

"In Germany, they first came for the communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Catholic. Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up."

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Some Days It's Just Not Worth
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[Antigen]

Ok, $40 Billion dollars a year to secure a tight monopoly on $400 Billion per year in international trade in illicit drugs. That's at least a large, round footprint.

The IVth Amendment is long dead. You are not secure in your person, papers or effects. Your business is John Walters' business. That's at least a loud, thudding foot-fall, even if you're too deaf to hear it.

Asa Hutchinson, chief of the DEA, has just been apointed as Tom Ridge's deputy in the newly created Homeland Security Department. The entire Bill of Rights has just been officially suspended. Is it not pretty clear now what the war has been all about? Do you not get it yet?

Here's a big clue that most former Program captives understand right off the bat. Straight was not a drug rehab. They knew that at the time. Straight was about getting control of your parents' money and your mind.

The "drug war" never was about drugs. It's about control.

Now then, back to the original bitch session. If you don't want to talk about it, then don't. But if you think I'm going to  :nworthy: and kiss your ass just because you don't want me to talk about it???  :rofl: