Ethical Approaches to Forum for Survivors

[animals all of us]

I smell trolls ...

[TimeBomb]

On 2004-08-17 00:03:00, animals all of us wrote:

"I smell trolls ...



"

Well, they do smell a lot like animals.

[animals all of us]

smells more like partially sentient beings than wild animals, perhaps its the smoke from a ticking bomb about ready to blow a dud.  In the meantime, stop feeding the trolls.

[Carmel]

Animals, you know what they say about farts...the one who calls it...

Being sleepy can impair someone's ability to do thier job.  People
can sleep at home and come to the job with sleepiness still in their system. The sleepiness can still be there long after the employee has slept. When someone is found to be sleepy on the job, they can claim that they went to sleep the night before.  The only solution to this problem is to ban employees from sleeping.

--Arthur Slabosky

[Anonymous]

im just bored and have access to free or cheap computers thats the only reason i regularly check this site however i have been personaly wronged by some of the other users here and the threats are quite real
when i see you i will do great bodily harm to you and the only reason you might be scared is because you have a guilty concience for your abuse to me   also i am quite small and my shoulders are drawn in but i dont drive a big car   that will not stop me from getting at you you know who iam so you should just call the police and give them my name even if you give them the wrong name they will still investigate  you can give them the names of all the people you fear i bet thats a very long list because i am not the only person you have abused

[Anonymous]

What is worse?
People who post "anon" threats here or people like Mr Bradbury who stalk people in their homes and break in to private facilities to steal paperwork and files that do not belong to them.When the evil Straight Inc staff have your files then nobody will see them,but when Mr Bradbury has possession of your stolen private files then just about anybody can get their hands on your private past.Bradbury could even blackmail you using your dodgy drug history past ang get you fired from your job or get your wife to leave you and take the kids with her>I doubt Mr Sembler would ever do anything like that with your private files.
I would bet that the authorities are taking a much closer look at the people who maintain this website rather that the crazies who post anon threats here.

[Carmel]

Last time I checked...my "private" past consisted of abuse, neglect, emotional trauma and a host of other insidious treatment.  By all means, I would LOVE for the rest of the world to learn of my "private" past.

I could give two shits about what Sembler would do with my "private" files.  However I could give 10 shits about what Sembler has already taken part in with regards to my "private" past.  

I love your attitude Anon....Let the devil keep it to himself so we can all go on through life maintaing our good credit rating.  Nevermind about those kids now being abused, as long as my "private" file remains private....I can still have a bitchin Beacon Score.

Coward.

Bigot: One fanatically devoted to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and intolerant of those who differ.
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary' target='_new'>Webster's

[ This Message was edited by: Carmel on 2004-08-19 08:03 ][ This Message was edited by: Carmel on 2004-08-19 08:04 ]

[Antigen]

Wow! That sounds like more of an incentive than simple boredom.

Are you saying that Richard blackmailed somebody w/ their records? You, maybe?

Want to know what the Semblers would do w/ our records? Ask Radley Balko. Couple of years ago Radley interviewed Sammie Monroe for a story on Straight. It ran on foxnews.com's front page just prior to the conference that year. http://www.theagitator.com/straightfox.php

Word is that someone (possibly Calvina or Betty?) called up Fox saying they had Sammie's file from Straight and could prove by it that what she told Radley was innacurate. She and I both asked, yet again, for this person claiming to have possession of our records to please send them along to us, their rightful owners. Never heard a word back from them.

Frankly, I think the person was 100% full of shit. I don't think the records exist any more. I think they were either destroyed or simply tossed in the dumpster.

But who knows and who cares? Frankly, I wouldn't want to work for and certainly wouldn't stay married to anyone who would believe the kind of bullshit one might find in a file written by peer staff at Straight, Inc. Would you?

What are politicians going to tell people when the Constitution is gone and we still have a drug problem?
--William Simpson

_________________
Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen
Seed sibling `71 - `80
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
   10/80 - 10/82
Anonymity Anonymous
Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.

[Anonymous]

Go on with yourself Gigner!!!  Tell 'em Carmel.  Right on! Right on! Right on!

[Helena Handbasket]

On 2004-08-19 00:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What is worse?

People who post "anon" threats here or people like Mr Bradbury who stalk people in their homes and break in to private facilities to steal paperwork and files that do not belong to them.When the evil Straight Inc staff have your files then nobody will see them,but when Mr Bradbury has possession of your stolen private files then just about anybody can get their hands on your private past.Bradbury could even blackmail you using your dodgy drug history past ang get you fired from your job or get your wife to leave you and take the kids with her>I doubt Mr Sembler would ever do anything like that with your private files.

I would bet that the authorities are taking a much closer look at the people who maintain this website rather that the crazies who post anon threats here."

Let me get this straight:

Richard Bradbury is holding on to a bunch of files in order to blackmail people, get them fired and/or divorced.

Just answer this:

WHY???

Answer another question: If the above is true, and he found the files in Sembler's trash, (the fact is Sembler's trash was picked through, not his home)  how can you make such a statement about Sembler?  Is Bradbury even wrong?

Why can the cops pick through your trash without a warrant?  Extra credit if you can come up with the appropriate Florida Statute!

Oh... another one... Ginger and Greg (and anyone else I've missed) are worth more of a closer look than crazies posting death threats?

Explain that one !!!!

Oh -- keep it up!  This is the best laugh I had all day!

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

[Antigen]

On 2004-08-19 00:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

I would bet that the authorities are taking a much closer look at the people who maintain this website rather that the crazies who post anon threats here.

Is that because they already know all about you, right down to your favorite flavor of ice cream to go w/ your birthday cake? And, of course, they know you're not a SP?

Speak gently! 't is a little thing Dropp'd in the heart's deep well; The good, the joy, that it may bring Eternity shall tell.
-- G. W. Langford: Speak gently.

[Anonymous]

I read here that some people are concerned about abusive threatening posts.
I comment that you can look at it both ways.
I have no idea what Sembler or Bradbury would do with your personal files.
I would suggest that you look out for yourself and not be trusting anyone with them.

[Carmel]

Problem is...its not about who I would trust with them, thats a luxury no one here has.  Give me a person who has possesion of their file, and I will give you Jesus live and in person.

Trust is a state of being that went out the door at the moment of our intakes.  

Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.
                                                                               
--Julius Caesar

[animals all of us]

You were so right Carmel.  Looks you were the one who called it first.  And you know what they say about the one who called it first; ...

[Anonymous]

On 2004-08-19 21:38:00, Carmel wrote:

"Problem is...its not about who I would trust with them, thats a luxury no one here has.  Give me a person who has possesion of their file, and I will give you Jesus live and in person.



Trust is a state of being that went out the door at the moment of our intakes.  

Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.
                                                                               
--Julius Caesar

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I think that is the same point the other anon poster was getting at. We really don't know who would do what with information. Then take into account that most of us here aren't the most trusting people and you have the beginnings for a recipe of mistrust for everyone, even the people who seem to want to help.