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« on: July 17, 2004, 03:35:00 PM »
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 we've read lots about the BAD group homes and Residential Treatment Facltiies in Utah but are there any GOOD ones in Utah?

can anyone name a group home in Utah that they think is run right?

how is it run differnetly that makes it better than others?

is there an industry association for the group home businesses?

is membership in this association voluntary or mandatory? by invitation or by request?

does this assocciation police its members?

how?

does it have membmership fees or dues? Fines?

is there a spokesperson for the industry? who?

are there any standards for group homes?

who writes these standards and where can they be found? on the net?

are there any model group homes that others look up to as being run right, the way all group homes should be run?
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2004, 03:37:00 PM »
we've read lots about the BAD group homes and Residential Treatment Facltiies in Utah but are there any GOOD ones in Utah?

The program I had and unpleasant experience with is not in Utah. I can't answer that question, but they all seem to have the same basic MO, with minor variances. They all use controversial Behavior Modification techniques, heavy on severe punishment for minor infractions, limit and restrict contact with parents, allow no contact or severely limit contact with other family member, monitor all communications, don't allow teens access to a public phone, see the teen as the 'problem', etc. etc. These are just a few of the similarities and any one of them should be a red flag for any parent.

is there an industry association for the group home businesses?

There are several:
NATSAP- National Association of Therapeutic Schools and Programs http://www.natsap.org/
OBHIC- Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Industry Council http://www.obhic.com/
EIA- Educatio Industry Association http://www.educationindustry.org/
More:
http://www.google.com/search?q=industry ... gteens.com

NATSAP's creation was funded by a man who is an educational consultant and owns a TBS and Wilderness Program. His programs operated for 7 years and 2 months respectively without proper licensure. The TBS is still not licensed as such. The members agree to abide by the 'ethics' established by the organization. I would not put much faith in that.

is membership in this association voluntary or mandatory? by invitation or by request?

Voluntary. Inviatation and request.

does this assocciation police its members?

No, that is not their role. They are a club, members voluntarily follow the ethics. They get together and discuss industry issues and jointly oppose or support legislation they like or dislike, etc.

does it have membmership fees or dues?

Yes.

Fines?

Not that I am aware of.

is there a spokesperson for the industry? who?

The industry is a conglomerate of independent owners of various different programs, some own multiple facilties. Within the conglomerate there are cliques of programs that like to distinquish themselves from other programs. They usually have their own twist on Behavior Mod, their policies may differ slightly.

are there any standards for group homes?

Most states have regulations for Residential Treatment Centers, Therapeutic Boarding Schools and/or Wilderness Programs. Some don't. You can read the Utah Core Rules at: http://www.rules.utah.gov/publicat/code/r501/r501.htm

who writes these standards and where can they be found? on the net?

Go to any state's human service site and search around.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2004, 07:23:00 PM »
Here are a few Core Rules From Utah... It seems there are purposeful loopholes that allow a facility to prevent visitation and mail communication.  

R501-2-7. Behavior Management.
A. Behavior management methods, as described herein, are not applicable to child placing adoption agencies. The program shall have on file for public inspection, a written policy and procedure for the methods of behavior management. These shall include the following:

1. definition of appropriate and inappropriate behaviors of consumers,

2. acceptable staff responses to inappropriate behaviors, and

3. consequences.
(hmmm- could this be anything the program thinks of?)

B. The policy shall be provided to all staff, and staff shall receive training relative to behavior management at least annually, or more often if needed. (Once a year training - will 1/2 hour do?)

C. No management person shall authorize or use, and no staff member shall use, any method designed to humiliate or frighten a consumer.
(does this include stripping kids naked and putting them in an ice cold observation room for entire days?)

D. No management person shall authorize or use, and no staff member shall use nor permit the use of physical restraint with the exception of passive physical restraint. Passive physical restraint shall be used only as a temporary means of physical containment to protect the consumer, other persons, or property from harm. Passive physical restraint shall not be associated with punishment in any way.
(sure - six people laying on a kid is passive restaint)

E. Staff who shall be responsible for the design and supervision of the behavior management procedure shall be at least 21 years of age.
(wow - this is the only requirement - no other training is necessary)
R501-2-8. Rights of Consumers.

A. The program shall have a written policy for consumer rights to include the following, numbers 10- 13 do not apply to child placing adoption agencies:

1. privacy of information and privacy for both current and closed records,

2. reasons for involuntary termination and criteria for re-admission to the program,

3. freedom from potential harm or acts of violence to consumer or others, (this obviously does not include forced drugging, sensory deprivation, solitary confinement, human take downs and restraints)

4. consumer responsibilities, including household tasks, privileges, and rules of conduct,

5. service fees and other costs,

6. grievance and complaint procedures,

7. freedom from discrimination,

8. the right to be treated with dignity,

9. the right to communicate by telephone or in writing with family, attorney, physician, clergyman, and counselor or case manager except when contraindicated by professional or supervisory personnel,
(HUGE LOOPEHOLE - EXCEPT when CONTRAINDICATED BY not only a professional but ANY supervisory personnel)

10. a list of people, whose visitation rights have been restricted through the courts,

11. the right to send and receive mail providing that security and general health and safety requirements are met,
(LOOPHOLE - providing that security and general health and safety requirments are met - this could be anything - if you send your kid some candy it may not be for their general health - therefore they can not receive it)

12. defined smoking policy in accordance with the Utah Clean Air Act, and

13. statement of maximum sanctions and consequences, reviewed and approved by the Office.
(Now the Core rule does not forbid any type of "sanction or consequence" they only ask that these maximum sanctions and consequences be in wrinting and reviewed and approved by THE OFFICE - what office?)

B. The consumer shall be informed of this policy to his or her understanding verbally and in writing. A signed copy shall be maintained in the consumer record.

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