VICTORY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY JAY FLORIDA

[Scarred4Life]

HEY, BABE! THIS IS RACHEL! IM GONNA SEND YOU SOME PICS OF ME IF YA WANTED. GOOD TO TALK TO SOMEONE WHO KNEW TILLET. IM GONNA FIND THAT BITCH. HEHE. lol. anyways, email me at ORNADUYESSA@AOL.COM
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-Rae-Rae ( HAYGOOD)

[Anonymous]

Yeah...well...just remember sis, if it weren't for girls like you, they wouldn't even need places like vca. My advice is, if you want to REALLY shut these places down.....stay out of trouble.

[Anonymous]

Wow what a moron, let's pick apart your statement and see if any of it makes ANY sense whatsoever. Okay so if we were good we would not need to be brainwashed? Oh, that makes sense,not!!!! And you are saying to help close these schools we should stay out of trouble??? Hmmmm also makes no sense, you see i think to close these schools down we need the state on our side well guess what smartie? we are almost there!!!!! VCA will be closed down within the next year or so. So my advice to you is to sit back and watch it unfold before your very eyes it should be a great show!I mean it happened in California so it wont be that hard to make it possible here, actually i find it makes it much easier. :wave:

[Anonymous]

I'm 33 now and went there for 1988 - 1989 when it was in Ramona.  Do you mind sharing your name?  My name is Michelle Anderson.

[Anonymous]

Yes, they have at least two daughters that I know of.  One was married and didn't live on the "compound" and the other was a senior in 1988-1989 and got pregnant out of wedlock on the "compound" and got married on New Years Eve 1988 and the baby was born in August but if you asked Bro. P when the baby was due he would tell you he didn't know, that was women's business.

[Anonymous]

I was in 9/88 - 9/89, how 'bout you?

[goonandcryboutit]

been to many programs, interventions, detention centers, jail, shelters, you name it. vca was the closest thing to a strict, religious summercamp....was it not. of course that's just my opinion. it's understandable to me that some  resent the fact that you missed out on the fun things back at home, and your freedoms were put on pause, but every single girl can take the positive things they learned from the experience or they can dwell about the negative aspects. growing up requires us to learn from bad mistakes and be responsible for ourselves, not desperately searching for those to blame. im not downing anyones remarks made here. i respect everyones opinion , and to a certain extent, i know where you are coming from, depending on how old you are.The maturity level will determine what moves you make from here,....now that you are home and are in charge of your own decisions.Proving that victory was unfair and unjust, inhumane and an abomination wont change a darn thing in our lives, ..Will it? maybe i am wrong. all for now.   god bless to those reppin bk to fullest, hope all is well with ashley evans and js  jaky j. stay your but out of trouble.  read a book or something

[Anonymous]

I am sorry to tell you this but it is not about fixing our lives its about making sure other girls dont have to deal with what we had to deal with. I am glad you thought vca was like summercamp, i did not. I dont know of any summercamp like that. Have you ever stopped and thought that maybe your still a bit on the brainwashed side? just a thought.

[Anonymous]

People who have been emotionally/physically/sexually abused at this school should focus on the positive...like...?  Sometimes they gave us candy?  Yippee!  Sometimes if we acted like good little brainwashed cult-members we got to help the staff make other girls miserable?  Shit!  I can't believe I've been such a crybaby!  

Get your head out of the sand, zombie!  Wake up and recognize that you're just a mindless tool!

[goonandcryboutit]

Hey now, I'm not condoning actions of those who abused their authority in any way. I'm not sayin i didn't have to deal with enough myself, i'll keep that to myself. Like I said, I've been around, in and out of programs and places where believe it or not, worse things have happened. Those girls who have been abused in some way do have the right and should have the oppurtunity to seek justice and such. I'm more or less addressing those girls who think it was rough because they couldn't have access to meaningless trash, or they had a job, hated their buddy and had to write lines. you know the kind. If you don't know of any, it was probably you! mostly it was the spoiled youngens. secondly, I didn't know i was talking to just you, but hey, if the shoe fits...you know the rest. honestly, i've dealt with the emotions that were left after i did my year and some odd months. i'm what you call a succesful and productive member of society, now anyways, and what my point im trying to relay is i refuse to let any of my obstacles that i've already made it thru affect my future anymore. i am a christian, not a bible thumper,. i lead a normal life. im not trying to insult anyone. what im saying are only suggestions. I do agree that there have been cases where some staff have gone to far. i've definitely witnessed many. your damn right. maybe it should be closed,maybe it shouldn't. who knows if it will. in the meantime though, how these girls deal with what they say happened is all up to them. they are in charge of their destiny. if they are lucky enough to be home, why couldn't they seek help and straighten out their own lives and lead them selves towards their idea of success. i'm not perfect. i've just maybe....maybe.. got a little more wisdom about trying to make a life out of broken plans, and situations that aren't fair, that i had no control over. and that's an under statement. and i know you'll do what ur gonna do regardless. im just lettin ya know. far from brainwashed,tho never that. shoot, having my own thoughts and ideas is one reason i was court ordered to go to vca. if u think im totally full of caca dont read what i write. what doesn't kill us makes us stronger, right. as for me, i know thats true, im living proof.  god bless

[goonandcryboutit]

oh yeah, by the way, you are definitely free to call me names and say what you want. go ahead, vent your anger on a stranger,...let it all out honey. do what you have to do. hopefully you don't let the anger ruin your life. there is a time to let things go before it consumes you. that would only hurt you. ill repeat it .. it only hurts you. yeah, be as you like. sound like you want. cuz no matter what your mind can cleverly come up with, guess what,.....im not gonna goonandcryboutit! im gonna keep things respectable and talk like the adult that i am. some people never grow up. some people never take good advice. some people never succeed. sincerely, girl,im not trying to steer you wrong. Again,. just suggestions.  god bless

[Anonymous]

Yes, and you're definitely free to write in your condescending tone, calling people "honey" and questioning their ages and maturity levels.  It's hardly keeping "things respectable" or "talk[ing] like the adult that [you] are," but okay.  Your opinions are all over the place anyway.  Thanks for all the tips on growing up and succeeding though.  My friends and I had a good laugh about that.  You know, a "belly laugh."  The kind that's good for the heart.

And no, fighting to close these schools down will not change what happened to anyone who is not there anymore, but apparently, you have failed to retain one of the Bible's more important principles: helping others.  I won't hold it against you, as the principle wasn't given much weight at VCA.

[Bitterness is Bad]

Whoa! So much bitterness. I see that alot of you guys have so much bitterness and hate towards VCA. I'm really sorry that so many of you have had such a bad experience at this school. All of you that went there were sent there for one or more reasons and they were not for not taking out the trash. Someone somewhere out there cared enough to pay well over a thousand a month for your hearts to be changed. To me it looks like those that went to VCA not willing to change didn't, never will and took VCA as a bad experience hence having hatred toward that school. Then again there were others that went to that school and wanted to change and did. I think that everyone is truely entitled to their own opinions and I see you girls come on here and vent your anger, and thats good. However I think that you also need to respect the people that feel different about VCA. I was a girl at VCA several years back. I did not want to go willing, yet my experience there was well worth it. I do not feel as if I was brainwashed. I am not a Zombie and neither is "goonandcryboutit". We are proof that if you want to change you can. People don't brainwash you. If anyone brainwashes its people brainwashing themselves. No one can force you to beleive in something that you don't beleive in. You can tell me 100 times that the sky is black, and I will never beleive you because I see the sky is blue. The staff at VCA strictly read the Bible, preached the Bible and from what I saw lived as the Bible spoke. I can only account for what I saw when I was there and there was no sort of abuse. However when you girls claim that there is, then that infact is between you, the Lord and whomever you are accusing of doing such a thing and I'm sorry that you had such a traumatic experience there. I am not a saint nor am I a "diehard" Christian. In VCA's terms I have backslidden shamefully; I rarely go to church, had a child before marriage, and lived completely right or as as God would have liked me to therefore I do not want you girls thinking that I am some sort of "Zombie" as you say. I am an averge person that had alot of problems when I was younger to the extent that my family sadly was forced to send me away to a Christian organization where only God could save me from my sin. I have a young daughter and I know that if I had such a hard time with her as my parents had with me I would not hesitate to send my daughter to VCA. I took what VCA taught me and used it. I have a wonderful husband, 2 beautiful children and I live a wonderful life and for some reason I am not as miserable as most of you guys on here, however, being respectful to everyones opinions I understand everyone has their own problems. I understand that the majority of you girls consider your experience at VCA a bad one and rather than dwelling on it I think it would probably be better for you to just move on. You all have so many more years to live, husbands to find, children to have.....laughs to laugh..... whats dwelling on 1 year or less spent in Jay going to do for you? All of you are in my thoughts and prayers. God Bless all of you!

[Anonymous]

For someone who claims to not be brainwashed you sure do use the VCA slang "bitterness" Hmmm... Oh well look this is a site for survivors in case you did not notice this, so why don't you go and start a message board about how much these kinds of schools can save you life. Or you could even start a group about it because i think you would be hard pressed finding 30-50 people to join your group, or to post on your board. But this is just MY opinion, answer me this really quick do you find it alright to make someone eat their vomit?, or how about to deny someone their religious freedoms? Are these things okay with you? I firmly believe these schools were not made for parents who "cared enough to pay 1,000 or more a month" but more like schools for parents who just did'nt want to have children i mean having them was no problem but as the going got tough...off to VCA you go. I mean for gods sake rise your children already, besides i will never believe that kids just "act out" mom and dad need to take some responsibility too. To the best of my knowledge VCA does not offer any counsling what so ever, please correct me if i am wrong here but, i also believe their are no licensed teachers, psycholigists, nor medical staff on site??? How can you truly resolve your issues without discussing what is REALLY going on here? Okay i have spent far to much of my time on you i suppose it just amazes me how some can allow themselves to be so blind. Oh one more key point how can you say all of the girls there did bad things what can an 11 year old do that is so bad her own parents would send her away? you say you have children how can you say that i am truly appauled by your comments.

[Anonymous]

:wink: They were always nothing but nice to me when I was in the Ramona school, we were very close infact. Amy is very happily married still with four kids and her husband is a singer in a band and Niki has made some changes in her life and is happy with her three girls. So FORGET YA'LL and YO BAD SELVES....YOU DONT KNOW ME