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« Reply #120 on: April 24, 2005, 06:15:00 PM »
I think I remember you, didn't you get fired from HLA?  No wonder you have so much hostility and anger, perhaps you need to seek professional help to deal with your issues of displaced anger?
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« Reply #121 on: April 25, 2005, 11:13:00 AM »
If you were referring to me... No I didn't work there. I was a student there for 20 months. Dont go off on the whole disgruntled student thing either because I am going to VCU on a full theatre scholarship and I've got a 4.1 and I surely didn't get there from being at HLA. thank you
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« Reply #122 on: May 01, 2005, 12:08:00 PM »
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On 2005-04-24 15:15:00, greenarrow wrote:

"I think I remember you, didn't you get fired from HLA?  No wonder you have so much hostility and anger, perhaps you need to seek professional help to deal with your issues of displaced anger?"

If you read any of this thread you would have seen that this young lady is a former "student" at HLA, not staff.

Why don't you seek professional help for being a systematic child abuser?  Maybe get some help for your collegues as well.  They need it.
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« Reply #123 on: May 08, 2005, 07:23:00 PM »
Arnold Schopenhauer (1788-1860) - Atheist and Christian Sympathizer.

"Reality is blind and, therefore, irrational and evil"

Asceticism consists in the constant action of nullifying the will itself.  Art suspends will; ethics (compassion) mortifies it;  aescetics nullifies it.

 The moral teachings of Schopenhauer, culminating in his asceticism, the nullification of life, is completely opposed to morality, which glorifies life.
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« Reply #124 on: May 18, 2005, 12:30:00 PM »
The following is a letter I had written in response to a concerned parent who currently has a child at Hidden Lake Academy:
     "Hello.  The letter you viewed was one I'd written last year around this time actually.  I'd love to answer any questions you have.  I must first ask though, why was he sent to HLA?  The reason I ask is because you need to ask yourself a very serious question,  Was the way he was before he went to HLA as dangerous as how he may feel upon his life after HLA?  I'll give you a quick background of my story in order for you to understand.  Right up to the time before I went to HLA, I had ceased caring whether I lived or died and had become a wandering junkie among the streets after dropping out of school and running away from home.  I was sent to HLA upon a court order.  I don't want to go into detail about how horrible my experience was at HLA, but I will say that there's no real individual counseling in order to find out what each child needs.  It's all done the cheapest way possible in order for them to still say that they are counseling, which is group counseling.  Group counseling on a mass structure can be successful when everyone may be suffering from the same problems such as Alcoholics Anonymous, but in this case what one child needs another may not.  You must also understand that because of this they fill everyones heads with the same rules of life by breaking down everything they've been taught and rebuilding their thinking.  This sounds as if it could be good, yes?  But it's not.  It's not actually correcting any problems.  It's covering them up with a therapeutic veneer and teaching them to suppress their problems since they're not actually working through them.  This insures that they may seem like things are better for them and that they're cured for a long enough time for them to leave HLA and then some.  As you know though, anything suppressed will eventually surface and need to be dealt with again.  So in actuallity HLA did nothing except offer a temporary fix.  For some it does work, but very few.  Most of the children end up with double the amount of problems, because you then have to worry about the same old problems accompanied by the trust issues and identity disorder that HLA has installed.  After leaving HLA I started noticing that I felt like a robot.  It took awhile to figure out who I was again.  Through all this searching I was lucky, because I started noticing subtle beauties in life that made me want to live, plus being sober I was able to look back at all the wrongs I'd done and people I'd hurt and became determined to change some of my ways.  Now I'm a very happy person for the most part, but I do suffer from some problems that I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to overcome, because my mind doesn't recognize them.  They're purely irrational thoughts that I can't control which cause me to have panic attacks.  I have social anxiety disorder and some serious trust issues from things my last psychologist said had become such a deep part of my psyche that it was part of my personality and could become a danger to try to change.  I have learned to function fine as long as I take my medication.  I am in a very successful relationship,  my parents and I are now much better friends, and I care about my life as well as others'...  Once again, I must say, that was my story.  Everybody's story's different.  For some the rebellious teenager is just a phase.  It's practically impossible to know that though since we can't see the future.  My parents have apologized a few times about getting me sent to HLA, because they see what it has done.  They say that if they could go back they would do things differently.  I don't think it's that easy though.  I needed some help and my parents just didn't know what to do.  I do not blame them for anything.  They did what they felt they had to after we'd gotten into some serious scuffles and they saw me slowly but rapidly dying.  You can see why I said that this is a very hard question to deal with.  My advice personally is not HLA and is one on one counseling with the whole family.  Make sure also that the psychologist is not a friend of anyone in the family, because you do not want them to be tempted into taking sides because of the personal relationship he/she has with a family member.  For all we know, there may be things about all of you that may need to change in order for there to be that balance that your family needs.  I know that's how it was for us, my family that is.  This means that you must be open for anything that your therapist may say to you without getting defensive.  There is no easy way out of this.  Remember that...  I to have never told my parents certain disturbing things that have gone on there, because they already beat themselves up over sending me there, so I can understand why your son is reluctant to say anything.  Plus there's also the fact that he's scared to because of what they may try to pull.  I was brainwashed into trying to commit suicide when they found out that I was trying to get my court order dropped because I felt like I'd worked through all of my problems, mostly on my own because i was willing and wanted to change things in my life.  They wanted me to slip up and try something so as not to lose my money.  It didn't exactly work as they wanted it to because we discovered what they were trying to do.  Avarice and the ability to control someone's mind don't mix...  Concerning your academics worry, there are no real academics.  In spanish, the answers were always on the bottom of the page upside down and no teaching was involved, just worksheets.  It's a gimic in order to make the parents feel as if some change is occuring.  You cannot fail a class, you get incompletes until they make you do it with work assignments or calistenics.  I remember when I made honor roll, my parents were so proud that I didn't even tell them that I was only in my first week of the school classes and hadn't actually done anything yet.  So he may get good grades, but there's no serious learning taking place.   I'd be more worried about his being able to function upon leaving than his academics though, because his credits should transfer fine.  But he may do horrible in the next school because although it states that he made an A in the previous math class, there's a good chance he didn't learn anything, so it's going to be more difficult for him to keep up since he's been out of a real school environment for so long...  I hope that all of this will encourage you to make the decision you feel is best.  I'm sorry you must go through this, but since you must, please make the best educated decision possible.  This is your son's future and possibly his life at stake.  Since you obviously care about him in order to seek my help, I'm sure you'll do what is best.  Here is a link yu may find helpful, http://www.heal-online.org/hiddenlake.htm....  Are you aware that there are a few class action lawsuits in the works against HLA?..  Please do not tell HLA that you have spoken with me.  They are very powerful and have the ability to come up with answers to anything, hence the psychologist part.  I'm risking alot by sharing these things with you.  Thankyou and Goodluck.  Love, Me"
I have posted this with the hopes that I could help answer some questions for those in worry.  If you are planning to or know someone who may be planning to undergo such circumstances, please forward on this letter.  Thankyou.
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« Reply #125 on: May 18, 2005, 05:14:00 PM »
This is an old post from somewhere else. Someone has cut and pasted it on every Hidden Lake Academy thread in Fornits Forum. It doesnt give much detailed information though, as to when this child attended, or how long they were there, or when these class action suits took place or are going to take place. Maybe this anonymous person could expand a little on the subject.
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« Reply #126 on: June 01, 2005, 03:52:00 PM »
your full of shit. i went to hla for a year and my parents were not allowed to contact me because i found out information that they told my parents that wasnt true. when the scam blew up, my parents were pissed because they were lied to so hla could get some money. they pulled me immediately but not in time to see my stepmothers death. ive been out for 2 years and im now valedictorian at a very prestigious college prep high school. im going to bucknell next year. ridge creek helped me a lot but hla just fucked up a huge part of my life
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« Reply #127 on: June 01, 2005, 04:24:00 PM »
It truly pleases me to hear that you've turned out so well in spite of HLA.  Lots of kids who go through these emotional growth hell holes aren't so fortunate. And yes, these so-called "schools" are a HUGE fraud.  I hope you continue posting here my friend, and do keep up the good work.
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« Reply #128 on: June 15, 2005, 01:13:00 AM »
i agree hla sucks major ass it should be shut down
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« Reply #129 on: June 15, 2005, 01:26:00 PM »
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Hidden Lake Academy, after operating 12 years unlicensed will now be monitored by the state. Access information on the Federal Class Action lawsuit against HLA here: http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17700

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« Reply #130 on: July 11, 2005, 04:50:00 AM »
I am a former member of peer group 50..

As Cliche as this may sound...
I might not be alive if I had not been sent there..but the "program and counseling" of HLA did not change me. I changed because of the friendships I made and hardships I endured (both self inflicted and external) during my stay at HLA-- Happiness is simply a choice- and HLA was a def. experience that made what I thought were hard situations and the "miserable" life I thought I was being forced to live a MUCH DESIRED AND NOW APPRECIATED cakewalk and adventure. I am open to talk on any subject (emotions felt, stories, and more) and share the TRUTHS of what I, my parents, and cousin, all expierenced while residing in the mountains of Dahlonega (incl. prev. behaviors, fam info, etc) up to my life outlook and opinions of the present day. I have many untainted memories and advice for anyone who made need it.
You can even email me--- PixieAnn1385@yahoo.com
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« Reply #131 on: July 27, 2005, 04:07:00 AM »
I had some interesting times at HLA and I would definately say that it was of great benefit. I hated every minute, and managed to escape a couple times, but in the end it was worth it.

By simply spending 18 months out of my "negative home environment" and away from drugs, girls, etc. it allowed me time to mature and think farther than two minutes into the future. Now I can think at least five or six :smile: I give the 1995-97' staff and overall experience 8/10.

My name is Eric and if you'd like to hear more or catch up (if the rest of my peer group isnt dead) feel free to email me:

mail-router2@sharewaredb.com
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« Reply #132 on: September 11, 2005, 09:49:00 PM »
I was a member of Peer Group 34, and I stumbled upon this forum looking for information on the HLA reunion.  I'm more interested in the road trip from Chicago to Dahlonga, but I figure it can't hurt to get some closure on the worst experience of my life... Even 4 years after graduating from the program, I have flashbacks.  

I had managed to earn myself a scholarship to a private liberal arts college, even with the on-going torture brought on by the school, but half-way through my first semester I was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder.  For the first 2 years following my HLA experience, my life became worse than it ever was before.  I dropped out of college.  I developed new issues and struggled with life in a whole new way.

I am finally in control of my life again, but no thanks to HLA!!  Everything I have now, i had to work my ass off for--using a "language of feelings" which no one in the "real world" even speaks!!  And here I am at work, worried my supervisors will think I'm being munipulative or playing "Mommy-Daddy games"... and they don't even know what the hell I'm talking about.  I am now affected with a level of paranoia I have never had, among other things.

So any parents who stumble upon this site looking for info on Hidden Lake Academy, think twice about how important it really is to end any chance your kid has of a normal life.  Unless they're into assault and armed robbery, THEY DON'T DESERVE THIS PUNISHMENT FOR ACTING OUT LIKE ALL TEENAGERS DO.
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« Reply #133 on: September 12, 2005, 11:28:00 AM »
(Removed)[ This Message was edited by: OverLordd on 2006-01-17 18:17 ]
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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.

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« Reply #134 on: September 12, 2005, 11:44:00 AM »
The easiest way to get inside would be to apply for a job or be a student Hahahaha. What exactly did you have in mind Overlordd? What are you going to do once you "get inside" ?
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