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« on: August 05, 2004, 12:49:00 PM »
Does anyone know anything about this school. After researching, a little late, 2 months she has been there, I think I need to get her out. I have read on other schools associated with wwasp but nothing on Casa. I need to convince my x-husband to get her out. Help!!
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2004, 06:29:00 PM »
There is this newspaper article:

http://http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,505034563,00.html

And there is this statement from a former inmate:

http://http://www.isaccorp.com/wwasp/casa/casastatementjc.pdf

ISAC's Tranquility Bay Report also contains some Casa information in a roundabout way.  It has an appendix on Dundee Ranch and a lot of Casa children were transferred there in its early days.  Amberly Knight reported one child from Casa whose collar bone had been broken as he was being 'restrained' and who had the x-rays to prove it.

You will need Adobe reader (free from http://http://www.adobe.com) to read the ISAC documents.

If you feel like downloading 70M of MPEG you can watch Inside Edition
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2004, 09:22:00 PM »
http://www.wwasprebuttal.com - if you have any questions about what you read on the internet, this is a great site.  

Connect with teens that have graduated, not just recently, but that have been home for several years.

You can also read their monthly magazine, which I'm sure you have received, or on line.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2004, 12:50:00 AM »
The horrendous experience of Ryan Friedenberg, age 15 at the time, occured at Casa By The Sea. Apparently he was hog-tied for a three day period in an isolation room. Your child is in extreme danger at Casa By The Sea. If you have joint custody get your child out as soon as possible.   :skull:
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2004, 01:00:00 AM »
I just wanted to say that I was in Casa by the Sea for quite a long time and they have done nothing but mentally abuse me. I've witnessed so many horrible things at that place- it puts you through like a mental torture. They tried to manipulate my parents and do all this stuff- its a very horrible place and reccomend anybody who thinks about sending their child there- don't. Any replies to this posting would be greatfully accepted.  :eek:  :eek:
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2004, 12:39:00 PM »
I just got in last night from attending the WWASP vs PURE trial in Salt Lake City. I herd Ken Kay explain while on the stand that in his opinion to strike a student with your open hand or fist is not always abuse. It depended on the situation.
Also, explained that it may not be abuse if a staff member has sex with a student. Explained the kind of students they have in WWASP programs are troubled and disturbed and consensual sex possible. Apparently the fact that the consentient is coming from a troubled STUDENT who is under the authority of the STAFF does not effect his thinking on the matter.
Explained that one the occasion of a 16 and one half year old girl having sex with staff at TB; he received a complaint from the father; talked with the girl; but NOT the staff member and felt it was consensual. The girl said it was consensual.
He explained he had done NO further investigation. The were NO incident reports or complaints filed - NO documentation that this ever took place.
Until Now.

The trial transcripts will be Priceless.

GO GET YOUR KID !!!
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2004, 01:02:00 PM »
please tell us more & or email me at the house...i'm currently traveling...would love to hear all of the king's testimony!!!
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2004, 01:09:00 PM »
Now friend - how am I supposed to know who to email??

OH - No wait - I think I know -
I called your house this AM and was told you were out of town.

I'll write you this after noon.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2004, 09:11:00 PM »
I feel strongly that little anecdotes...the day-to-day life that kids lead in Casa by the Sea (and ALL other WWASPS schools - there is no difference, and the physical horror of Tranquility Bay is equal to the mental horror of Cross Creek) is a powerful message to parents to keep their kids out of WWASPS.  Our grandaughter now lives with us, after spending her entire 14th year in Casa by the Sea, being retrieved into a step-parent hell, and finally moving in with us.  She misses the *concept* of a loving parent, and has to suffice with grandparents/aunts/cousins and a large circle of new high school friends. She is adamant that she will live with us until college, job, or maturity takes her away to other adventures.  She is never going "home".  

In Casa...I asked once if she ever was disciplined by being on her knees for extended periods.  Her answer:  "No, but we were on our knees in the hallway a lot every time there was a middle-of-the night roll call."  These headcounts occured frequently.  Why?  Maybe to check for midnight runaways, but really it was to disturb the sleep patterns and tire inmates before a seminar was scheduled..."soften them up".  IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR CHILD?

In Casa...although she was never beaten (that I know of), she spent nearly her first 2 months in solitary confinement.  She knows boys at Casa who were taken across the freeway from the oceanside facility and run up and down the very steep hill as punishment.  The kids were force-run until they vomitted or passed out.  IS THIS THE CARE YOU EXPECTED WHEN YOU SIGNED OVER YOUR CHILD TO STRANGERS?

In Casa...you are known by your number.  Recently we say a billboard advertising JetBlue's airline strategy as "We don't think of YOU as E8".  Funny ad.  She said she was Number 4 for nearly a year.  IS THIS A PRISON OR A THERAPEUTIC BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION FACILITY?

In Casa...I was talking about our old softball team from years ago, the one whose funny name was "The Barochos".  This means "drunks" in Spanish.  She said, "I was usually called [I can't remember the word]".  I asked what that meant.  "It means 'Liar'".  IS THIS THE LOVING ENVIRONMENT YOU WERE PROMISED?

In Casa...she lost her single bar of soap in the first week at Casa.  She went without soap for her cold showers the entire month.  She was grateful when her mother sent a package including soap.  Her mother was billed $95 additionally every month to pay for "toiletries".  (Toilet paper is precious, often unavailable for days at a time, and strictly limited due to the poor plumbing at this failed hotel complex.)  DID YOU EXPECT TO SHELL OUT SO MUCH EXTRA FOR BASIC NECESSITIES?

In Casa...the promised "education" is one from packets, with no teacher available at any time.  She "passed" Geometry by learing the sequence of test answers from others...A, then C, then D, etc.  She had to drop Geometry in our new high school because she had no clue whatsoever that it entailed geometric forms constructed with rulers and compasses (forbidden at Casa).  She even had to drop from Spanish II to Spanish I here because her language skills were developed from street-Spanish guards at Casa, themselves unaware of the grammar and vocabulary that ordinary US high-schoolers learn in class.  The guards/"mamas" earn between $1.00 and $2.50 per hour.  WHERE IS YOUR MONEY GOING, IF NOT TO THE CHILD YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP?

In Casa...they say your child can be "cured" in XXX months (usually commensurate to how much they feel you are willing to pay).  This time period has absolutely nothing to do with the progress the child makes, since punishment and demotions are handed out by other kids with their own agenda.  DID YOU KNOW THAT NO TRAINED PROFESSIONALS ARE AVAILABLE, AND THAT DAY-TO-DAY SUPERVISION IS GIVEN OVER TO OTHER INMATES STILL TOO "SICK" TO RETURN TO THEIR OWN HOMES?

In Casa...they browbeat children into submission, and promise parents that the good behavior is a result of them "seeing the light".  The changed behavior is more often fear of punishment, distorted understanding of values (brainwashing), or simply the kid growing up while incarcerated and realizing that life can be better.  DO YOU KNOW THAT THE CHILDREN ARE CHANGED IN WAYS YOU DON'T EXPECT, THAT THEY REMEMBER AND CRY, DREAM NIGHTMARES, SUFFER DEPRESSION FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES, EVEN WHEN THEY BECOME GRANDPARENTS THEMSELVES???

In our own experience, we have seen an entire extended family ripped apart.  No one speaks to the mother who dispatched her child to Casa.  The child herself now has difficulty talking on the phone to her mother (having seen her once for lunch at a restaurant in the 8 months since being with us).  They have nothing in common.  ARE YOU READY TO LOSE YOUR CHILD FOREVER?  

WWASPS is ready to take your money.  Pay up, and believe the pretty pictures in the brochures.  It is a horrible disaster happening to your child, and you don't even know it because it is a WWASPS secret.
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