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[kpickle39]

[ This Message was edited by: kpickle39 on 2004-05-28 04:28 ]

[ehm]

A free ride?

There you go again, making comments on a subject you have no facts to base your opinions on.

I spent close to four years in two different child incarceration facilities, and was physicality abused and neglected for over ten years prior. Not to mention being raped and molested ages 11-15.

Stop sounding like an idiot.

[ehm]

And I didn't get any line from any movie, jackass.

[ehm]

On 2004-05-28 10:02:00, Lezli wrote:

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A free ride?

There you go again, making comments on a subject you have no facts to base your opinions on.



I spent close to four years in two different child incarceration facilities, and was physicality abused and neglected for over ten years prior. Not to mention being raped and molested ages 11-15.



Stop sounding like an idiot.

I'd like to add that I was homeless two years after Straight, with no family, no support, and a baby by the time I was 19.

Today, at 33, I have a wonderful life, family and home. All of these things are a result of me moving on. I have suffered many tragedies in my life, many self inflicted, and many others I had no control over. My happiness today falls nothing short of a miracle, but certainly has never been a free ride.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[GregFL]

There is a difference between going thru something, looking back, learning from it and moving forward than wallowing in your childhood problems and using them for an excuse 20 or 30 years later.

Absent of mental illness, there is no reason to be stuck in that horrible time for the rest of your life.

Good job Lezli. I too went thru a horrible time after I left  the program. Lost my family, my trust in authority, couldn't socialize with people properly because I had learned that confrontational style or communication,had self confidence issues and was angry and didn't even understand why.

I do now. To be that way 30 years later would be the ultimate tradegy, that is, to be unable to move past that crap.

[GregLeclaire]

Did it ever occour to you that MAYBE the experience of being a victim of these programs CAUSES PERMENANT MENTAL ILLNESS,or aggrivates (exploits)a simple existing emotional problem into PERMENANT MENTAL ILLNESS.Bring your head over here and I will demonstrate HOW you can receive PERMENANT BRAIN DAMAGE because of your involvment with the programs(especially if you are a 7stepper,Asshole).

[GregFL]

Of course it did. that is why I said "in absense of mental illness"


Your reading comprehension is way down Im afraid there gilligan.

[ This Message was edited by: GregFL on 2004-05-28 20:27 ]

[ehm]

On 2004-05-28 20:11:00, GregLeclaire wrote:

"Did it ever occour to you that MAYBE the experience of being a victim of these programs CAUSES PERMENANT MENTAL ILLNESS,or aggrivates (exploits)a simple existing emotional problem into PERMENANT MENTAL ILLNESS.Bring your head over here and I will demonstrate HOW you can receive PERMENANT BRAIN DAMAGE because of your involvment with the programs(especially if you are a 7stepper,Asshole). "

That's the kind of tragic circumstances that follow trauma and abuse. Doesn?t matter if you were in Straight, grew up with abusive parents, were raped, kidnapped, assaulted, battered for years in an abusive relationship, or a POW. Trauma is trauma, and will take its psychological toll. Even though PTSD is debilitating, it's treatable. With time, and therapy, it can be put into perspective and overcome. The only mental illnesses that are beyond help, are the ones that are left untreated.

So what do you do? You pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and go on. Deal with it by getting the help you need, and the understanding of it that helps you grow past its crippling qualities. All is not hopeless, and you are not helpless. After all, it's not like we live in Iraq.

[Triumvirate]

Thats not necc true...Sure all mental illness is "Treatable" ...but it never gets cured..
 Sure you can take someone and put them through therapy...and they can learn to act like a normal mentally functional person..
 But I think if you feel like after some therapy you are all better, then either you arent mentally ill or are fooling yourself.

 I can act normal too...

 But when you get to know me its apparant that Im far from it..

 But I was born that way...inherited. Straight just made it a little worse..

 Then again I lump Straight in with my whole adolescents which was actually Straight and a string of other places.
 Straight was a damaging place, but I think Im kind of over that..I have found some other things in my life to be much more challenging..

 Straight didnt cause the black cloud, I was born with it, and can trace it at least 2 generations back in my family..


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[Triumvirate]

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[GregLeclaire]

[GregLeclaire]

Maybe mental illness hinders my reading skill,Asshole.