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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2005, 10:51:00 PM »
What's the name of the escort service that brought the so-called "unwilling" teen to this program that whips kids in the name of Jesus?

ABUNDANT LIFE ACADEMY (WE TORTURE KIDS IN JESUS NAME...)
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« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2005, 05:27:00 PM »
Does anyone know the name of the escort service Rick Strawn works for? or is he still doing this business? he was an atlanta cop.
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« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2005, 05:28:00 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2005, 12:02:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-25 19:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I just came back from DR where I spent a week helping to build a new school for JCS (Jarabocoa Christian School) I had the oppertunity to... 1. work with an Escuela Caribe administrator

2. Have a grande tour of the facility

3. hear testimonials of 4 senior students

4. work side by side for 3 hours with one particular student who was escorted to Escuela Caribe against his will.



1, 2 The administration is very professional. They are bright, caring and loving. Infact, one of the site admins was a past student. They follow all the rules of the US and Canada based programs so this facility could exist in the US. The environmnet is safe secure but not a prison at all. If they run away, the folks in the town all help look for them and return them.

The rooms are all very clean, students are very well fed and appear healthy and clean. The classrooms are moders with a computer lab. Yes they work hard on the site, and earn each level raises based on behavior, academic achievement, leadership and treatment of others. Yes they are taught about Christ, and many leave non-believers, and many do choose to follow Christ. A person sometimes needs to be broken, before they can commit to real and lasting change.



3. I attended Church at Escuela Caribe and whitnessed the testamonies of 4 students who when on a local mission trip to another part of the island. There they administered medical aid, and fed and played with children who literlally live in a local garbage dump. These four students are changed. They belive in God, they see how thier behavior affected others, and themselves. They see the selfishness in thier lives, and clearly are better for thier experience. I think they have an excelent chance of staying on the right side.



4. When buildng the school (JCS) sever teens came over to help. I worked with this teen for several hours. He really was a hard worker. We talked at legnth about how he was treated, what he had done to get there, how he has grown. I was amazed how strong his resolve was to be good, and change is life. He new his weaknes and is working hard to overcome it. I was very impresed and listened very objectively. I was looking for "programed answers" but I didn't get them. I think I spoke to the real thing when we talked. I was skeptical but not now. He was also grateful that his parents did it.



I think this school is an excelent facility for kids that are on the wrong path. They even work with the parents alot. I think the saddest part is that so many parents let it get that bad where they had to go to this extream. Sure some kids just go bad, but I feel that most of the time, it is preventable if the parents trained thier kids well. If I had the need, I would send my own child there.





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THis is BS!!!!! They snowed you.  When I was there they told us that the townspeople would bring us back with a machete to our back because they would get good money!

They manipulate and lie to parents, they did to mine, and they will admit it.  

It is good to be broken before God, and to see how the rest of the world lives, and to see how your behavior affects others, but these people are so secluded that they get too wrapped up in their own power and influence.  Pretty soon, it becomes about them and not about God. Some staff members do this without realizing, some do it on purpose because they have issues.  Some students see through the crap, but all eventually are "programed", not changed.  
God wants our wills to be broken.  Not our spirits, not our minds, not our hearts.
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2005, 12:14:00 PM »
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On 2004-05-25 04:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I think you also misunderstand the type of students that we have here.  These are not your typical well-adjusted (more or less) high school students.  These students have already rejected a relationship with their parents and are involved in highly destructive activities (e.g., gangs, drug use or distribution, suicide attempts, living on the streets).  Believe me, we want these kids to have a relationship with their family, and the "psychological disorientation" produced by "culture shock" is an important ingredient in helping the students to realize that they want to have a relationship with their family.  We try to keep the environment as non-institutional as possible: students live in "houses" with houseparents.  The key to success here is relationship and love.  These kids (and families) have already had therapy (although we do that too), and it hasn't worked. We believe that it is through loving relationships that these kids will change.  So we love them.





Bunch of crap, my friend!
 I had never drank, used drugs, ran away, skipped school, joined a gang, or had sex before I went down there.  I had been abused by my parents and still wanted to work it out. Some rich parents sent their kids down there to send their embarrasing problems away.  They couldn't handle a mentally ill son or daughter, so they wanted someone else to "put the fear of God in them".
  And "culture shock therapy" is admitted mind control and has no lasting effects.  Before long, after the students return, the effect wears off,if and when they become "deprogramed" by the grace of God.
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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2005, 02:28:00 AM »
This school is very sick and manipulative.  I was a student ten years ago and they used there power in a very sick way.  I want to shut down this place.  i have ptsd from that experience that place deserves to go down and I am going to make sure those kids dont have to go through that heidi I was there in 1996 anyone else
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« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2005, 10:24:00 AM »
I was going on a cruise and got dropped off in the DR.  It is a sick sad situation.  Nobody deserves to be put in push up postion and and arms shaking in pain and three people director and all screaming in your face.  That is very sick and ungodly.  Being put on silence and not be able to speak.  Note book support.  I was put in the pit of trash and had bugs crawling up my legs.  these people use christian as a way to get parents to trust.  My parents regret and wish to change the past.  How can you if any staff ever read this think this is ok.  It is the staff that needs help to think this type of manipulation and using there power could help.  HELLO   I really believe it is a cult.  I prayed to die.  SICK STAFF   Why else would it be in another country.    illegal you think.  This tears young hearts into fear and being scaried of people with any athority.  That is not healthy.  If you feel the same way speak out if everyone does it will be a start.  But to except this is allowing them to still have the power.  DO NOT SEND YOUR KIDS TO THIS BOOT CAMP  hear that at least
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2005, 01:34:00 PM »
Hey guys! Speak up! Register, so we at least have a fake name to go with these stories. Or email me or something.  Dre and I are the only alums with registered names.All us Escela Caribeians need to support one another!  :wave:

I am so glad to hear that Others feel this way, and glad I'm not the only one who realized how sick it was.  I just feel so sad that I have done nothing before now, and so many others have been and are still being hurt.  It is a very sneaky cult.
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« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2005, 09:31:00 AM »
At EC they use "therapy" called culture shock , more commonly known as brainwashing! it practices all the same tenets...

Former students working at treatment facilities is not a healthy sign.

Do you know why everything is so clean?  
Because students clean ALL THE TIME....daily all surfaces are checked with a flashlight---
I am all for keeping things in order but there is no reason at all to check surfaces witha flashlight, or the degrees of hospital corners with a compass...

Maybe those students have a chance of staying on the "right side" if they get psychological help---which they will not get with the untrained staff at Escuela Caribe.

As a student at Escuela Caribe, you have to stay on high alert all the time---your flight or fight response is constantly aroused---known as hypervigilance....something that doctors are just now discovering shortens life spans....

I daily have to practice telling myself to calm down b/c I lost any sense of finding my off switch down there----

Students are not allowed to get upset, or to show their true feelings. If they were to become upset, they received physical exercises and shoving and sometimes the strap....

You do not know what that student really thought---b/c he is just talking for points..you always have to think about your points....You have a pointsheet that you are graded on every hour of the day.  It is totally subjective, and as I have mentioned, neuroses inducing.

if that student were to say to you the truth that EC is awful---you would have told whoever was in charge and his life there would have been screwed....as a student you are trained to say the right things and ignore what you really feel---there is probably a reason why your first instinct was skepticism....

To really know what goes on, you would need to spend time in a house where you observe the daily routine...but they would never let an outsider do that....Your idea of the program would change were you to see a staff member knock down a kid who is "out of line."

I cannot even believe you would naively say you would send a child there----that is never an option---family counseling is the only way to solve problems----

my parents never tried counseling---I went to NHA from a short term facility.  They were referred by Focus on the Family, who should have known better than to recommend this extremely abusive program.

Being locked up warped me---introduced me to situations I never would have considered....

It says so much about this country that long-term facilities are an alternative to child-rearing...that even though you brought a child into the world for a mere $3000 month  you can be rid of your problem child as opposed to actually dealing with why your family is dysfunctional.

Sending a child away can be devastating to an adolescent's psyche.  This is from one who experienced it.
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« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2005, 01:06:00 AM »
I'm glad Dre turned me onto this forum.

I was at EC in the mid-80s. Psychological and physical abuse were par for the course then as well. I have more of an authority problem then ever after being in that hellhole, despite having an advanced degree and a professional career, and I totally turned away from organized religion. I still have nightmares about the place.

I agree that alums should have their own space to hash things out, so I created one:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Escuela_Caribe/

I'd hope that people post using their real names, but if they're embarrassed or working through some issues, I understand.  I envision the message board as a place alumni can swap experiences and re-connect with classmates.

Cheers, Julia Scheeres
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« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2005, 10:50:00 PM »
I was there for two years.  That place is a complete failure for anyone after they get out.  most of the students I know are on drugs, had a kid or kids before they were 19, gone to or are in jail, etc.
I was never broken down the same way many of the others were, so i faired a little better.  
I really hope the place gets shut down.  There is a book called "Jesus Land" by Julie Scheers about the place, and ive found a number of other people writing their story of the place, including myself.  some are worse than others.
these is a group of former students just started on yahoo.  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Escuela_Caribe/
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« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2005, 10:52:00 PM »
in Escuela Caribe we were monitored 24 hours a day in an isolated mounatin enclave.  talking about non christian music could warrant beatings with a leather strap.  
it didnt help ANYONE, but the environment was completly within the control of the staff.
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« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2005, 11:00:00 PM »
I am a former student.  Almost all the former students I know are involved in drugs or alcohol, many have kids (at 18, 19, 20) some are in jail or prison.  I never became a Christian, and while I was there I decided to make something of myself in spite of them, which I have partially done.  Still struggling with some bad habits I developed since then, but nothing in comparison to some of the other kids.  
And the housefather at Thomas House there molested a number of the students in his house, and Mr. Redwine (the director) decided to right the situation by giving him a landscaping job instead.
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« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2005, 11:03:00 PM »
actually, you're wrong on that one.  One student escaped and made it all the way to the US embassy, who sent him back to the school.  
until 18, we are possessions of our parents.
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