General Interest > Tacitus' Realm
The 9/11 Debate
Antigen:
--- Quote from: ""ajax13"" ---Nobody blamed Israel. That was a non sequitor.
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No kidding! I just spent a while looking for who blamed Israel and where before flipping to this page.
Eliscue, the only reference I could find was Israel properly, in my view, listed along with all the other relevant squares on the chess board under discussion.
If you're going to give your blind fidelity to every joker who comes along claiming to be a good Jew, you just let off the hook Mel Sembler, Mel Wasserman, Joe Gotlieb, Art Barker, Mitchell S. Rosenthal and, I'm sure, some others richly deserving of your disdain and condemnation.
That's not to say that the whole industry is somehow more affiliated w/ people who grab the Rabbi and cry sanctuary than any other brand of carpet baggers and Bible thumpers. It's not at all. The public sector, though largely ignored by program vets and advocates--especially those who have pinned their hopes on government regulation for remedy--is primarily dominated by Phoenix House (Mitchell S. Rosenthal - Jewish, Stepcraft, Synanon) Teen Challenge (David Wilkerson, Fundie Christian) w/ DFAF (Straight, Inc, Mel Sembler) running political and indstry interferrance and, amazingly, taken into the conservative Christian, Jewish and Stepcraft tents with full, unquestioned faith.
Then there are the fucking Mormons, and who can explain that! At the end of the day, there's a brand a brand and style for whatever scares ya.
But lets focus on those closest to this administration for now because they are the most dangerous to all 6 billion of us atm. That I know of, there's Mel Sembler who has demonstrated throughout his career that he's a fascist, authoritarian, slave making lunatic. He holds so much sway with the Bush people that he is the first and only sitting US Ambassador to have an embassy named after him. And there's Bob Lichfield representing the Mormons as well as some significant ties w/ the Gothards, (Institute of Basic Life Principles), which is a sort of personal growth/lgat thing that works through the fundie Christian sects) cropping up in association with the Bush people.
Now contrast the behavior, intellectual honesty and just basic human decency and integrity of any of these sadistic lunatics with those of a guy like Arnold Trebach.
"By their fruits ye shall know them" is a favorite passage out of the new testament, but remember that it was allegedly spoken by a now famous Jew in a day before even the idea of a Christian faith had really formed.
Antigen:
What does Alberto Gonzalez call himself on whatever day he likes to call Sabath? Does it matter?
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=7995
Anonymous:
Speedy Gonzales?
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