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Offline Deborah

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« on: April 08, 2004, 07:35:00 PM »
If only teens had rights equal to adults.

http://www.thejournalnews.com/newsroom/ ... ivier.html

By JANE LERNER
THE JOURNAL NEWS
(Original publication: April 7, 2004)

A Rockland County correction officer who won a lawsuit contending that he was wrongly held in a psychiatric ward after doctors said he was suicidal has returned to work at the county jail.

Frank Olivier started his job earlier this week, Rockland Undersheriff Thomas Guthrie said yesterday. Guthrie said Olivier was reinstated after agreeing to be examined by an independent doctor. The doctor found he was fit for duty, Guthrie said.

Olivier contended that he was unable to work because he suffered from post-traumatic stress syndrome connected to a 1995 incident in which he shot and wounded an inmate who was trying to escape.

"It was a job-related injury," said Bill Hickey, president of the correction officers union, which fought for Olivier's reinstatement. "He never should have been fired."

He was awarded $30,000 in compensatory damages by a federal jury in July 2002, after he contended that he was wrongly committed to the psychiatric
unit of the Dr. Robert L. Yeager Health Center in Ramapo for two days in February 2001.

Family members reported to police that Olivier had written what they characterized as a suicide note to a girlfriend.

Olivier argued in court that that note was actually "a love letter."

A jury found that Olivier was wrongly held.

In a related case, one of the doctors who treated Olivier during his confinement was convicted of perjury for saying that he was a board-certified psychiatrist when he wasn't.

Dr. Faidherbe Ceus of Nanuet, who formerly served as director of emergency services for Westchester Medical Center's psychiatric unit, was stripped of
his license to practice medicine last June.

Ceus was also sentenced to nine months in prison, two years' supervised release and fined $2,000.
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2004, 08:01:00 PM »
Isn't that the truth. The Bill of Rights applies to young people as well as adults however first you have to determine the definition of young person.

In the state of Texas a minor is described as someone who is not yet of legal age or according to the Texas Family Code SS101.003 (a) "Child" or "minor" means a person under 18 years of age who is not and has not been married or who has not had the disabilities of minority removed for general purpose.

Again thought a child who is 17 is in a grey area and is not classified as an adult but does not fall under the umbrella of being a minor either. It depends upon the circumstances of the situation that the 17 year old is in. He cannot vote nor sign a contract. He cannot seek medical help for himself and he cannot check himself into school. but if he commits a crime he can be tried as an adult.

Does anyone else see a problem here?
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2004, 08:36:00 PM »
Speaking of Texas Law.
The Department of Protective and Regulatory Services officially changed their name last month to  ::drummer::

Department of Family and Protective Services.

I thought it appropriate of them, given their total inability to "regulate" anything.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2004, 10:37:00 PM »
Seven years ago when this reporter first started using the Internet as a tool to investigate and report on allegations of fraud and child abuse at certain rehabilitation programs, one of the strongest and most informative allies I met was a frail lady from up north with a still powerful voice who published Intrepid Net Reporter. Her name was Donna Headrick. Donna held a master's degree in Social Work and was a LCSW. Donna and I shared a passion to expose child abuse in the quickly emerging and lucrative teen rehabilitation industry. Sadly, we have just learned of the passing of Donna on July 6th, 2002. She was 57 years old. I am told that Donna's doctor spoke at her funeral. He told how his patient Donna had consoled and helped him with his own problems. Donna's cab driver asked to speak and said the same, and so the procession of speakers went. Donna touched everyone she met (except for those she exposed).
All her adult life Donna worked to expose child abuse. To those of you who have recently read about alleged child abuse at Elan in Maine from reports emanating from the Michael Skakel trial for the murder of Martha Moxley, Donna told me once that she had participated in an investigation of Elan 30 years ago. Donna was the ultimate source of knowledge on the Utah-based overseas emotional growth programs. At the time of her death she was being sued by WWASPS in what some observers would call a SLAPP suit. Today there is a class action suit against WWASPS by former parents and students in this program. Donna Headrick is the architect of that suit.
Donna suffered from a debilitating illness the whole time I knew her, but that didn't stop her from standing up to the giants from Utah and their teen specialty schools. Upon her death when there was no one to renew the naming rights to Intrepid Net, the teen help industry took over ownership rights, reminding one of Scientology's? takeover ownership of the old Cult Awareness Network. Nevertheless, Intrepid Net lives on today and will always live on at its new location: http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/
 
Just the other day someone told me that Donna used to speak highly of me. Internet reporting doesn't pay much, but hearing things like that being said by someone like Donna Headrick are priceless. We love you Donna Dear. The world won't be the same without you. You touched so many lives. God Bless Donna Headrick.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2004, 10:44:00 PM »
Seven years ago when this reporter first started using the Internet as a tool to investigate and report on allegations of fraud and child abuse at certain rehabilitation programs, one of the strongest and most informative allies I met was a frail lady from up north with a still powerful voice who published Intrepid Net Reporter. Her name was Donna Headrick. Donna held a master's degree in Social Work and was a LCSW. Donna and I shared a passion to expose child abuse in the quickly emerging and lucrative teen rehabilitation industry. Sadly, we have just learned of the passing of Donna on July 6th, 2002. She was 57 years old. I am told that Donna's doctor spoke at her funeral. He told how his patient Donna had consoled and helped him with his own problems. Donna's cab driver asked to speak and said the same, and so the procession of speakers went. Donna touched everyone she met (except for those she exposed).
All her adult life Donna worked to expose child abuse. To those of you who have recently read about alleged child abuse at Elan in Maine from reports emanating from the Michael Skakel trial for the murder of Martha Moxley, Donna told me once that she had participated in an investigation of Elan 30 years ago. Donna was the ultimate source of knowledge on the Utah-based overseas emotional growth programs. At the time of her death she was being sued by WWASPS in what some observers would call a SLAPP suit. Today there is a class action suit against WWASPS by former parents and students in this program. Donna Headrick is the architect of that suit.
Donna suffered from a debilitating illness the whole time I knew her, but that didn't stop her from standing up to the giants from Utah and their teen specialty schools. Upon her death when there was no one to renew the naming rights to Intrepid Net, the teen help industry took over ownership rights, reminding one of Scientology's? takeover ownership of the old Cult Awareness Network. Nevertheless, Intrepid Net lives on today and will always live on at its new location: http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com/
 
Just the other day someone told me that Donna used to speak highly of me. Internet reporting doesn't pay much, but hearing things like that being said by someone like Donna Headrick are priceless. We love you Donna Dear. The world won't be the same without you. You touched so many lives. God Bless Donna Headrick.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2004, 10:46:00 PM »
above by W. Fager
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2004, 01:26:00 AM »
Quit your bullshit about a lawsuit!  Maybe new readers to this forum will be scared, but those of us that know the stories, won't be pulled in by those that stand to get business from the parents or others that believe it.   IF Donna started the rumor, then this rumor of a lawsuit has been hanging around the internet for quite some time, ya think?  

Now what IS true is the legal actions WWASPS is bringing against those that say the crap you say to scare the parents that are scared by their teens actions/choices and won't get help from ANY residential program.  

But isn't that this WHOLE site is about?  Mind poison?
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2004, 03:15:00 AM »
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On 2004-04-08 22:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Quit your bullshit about a lawsuit!  Maybe new readers to this forum will be scared, but those of us that know the stories, won't be pulled in by those that stand to get business from the parents or others that believe it.   IF Donna started the rumor, then this rumor of a lawsuit has been hanging around the internet for quite some time, ya think?  



Now what IS true is the legal actions WWASPS is bringing against those that say the crap you say to scare the parents that are scared by their teens actions/choices and won't get help from ANY residential program.  



But isn't that this WHOLE site is about?  Mind poison?  "


Uuhhhmmmm...my greatest hope is that readers of this forum will make an intelligent judgement of the reliability and truthfulness of statements on this forum.  Let's see, this thread started with an emotional and eloquent epitath for Ms. Headrick.  Then along comes this Anon, and the best response to former eloquence is "Quit your bullshit about a lawsuit!"  My oh my oh my.  Reading on, what the hell are you saying Anon?  You are our best weapon...opening your mouth and spewing mind poison.  

Dear and Gentle Readers, please consider all posters on this topic.  It would appear that the quoted poster above is basically terrified that all Fornits is about is thwarting real and honest efforts of parents to get help for their children.  What possible reason could there be for that?  Decreasing profits?  Lost wages? ::boohoo::
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2004, 03:23:00 AM »
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Seven years ago when this reporter first started using the Internet as a tool to investigate and report on allegations of fraud and child abuse at certain rehabilitation programs, one of the strongest and most informative allies I met was a frail lady from up north with a still powerful voice who published Intrepid Net Reporter. Her name was Donna Headrick.


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