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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2004, 09:08:00 AM »
Hey if comments get you bent out of shape thats your problem and not the fault of anybody else...
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« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2004, 09:09:00 AM »
Listen, anon - I want to get some coffee. Do you mind if we continue this pointless banter in a little while?
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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2004, 09:11:00 AM »
True, I could always get a haircut if I wanted to. (If that's what you were referring to.) But why start pointless shit over someone's appearance? Talk about a waste of space...look, I'll be back.
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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2004, 03:12:00 PM »
For the record...I dont post anonymously guys.  Sorry, but if I wanted to say something rudely....I wouldnt bother to say it nicely first under my own name.  Anything I have to say, I will say using my own name.....it promotes integrity.
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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2004, 03:24:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-30 12:12:00, Carmel wrote:

"For the record...I dont post anonymously guys.  Sorry, but if I wanted to say something rudely....I wouldnt bother to say it nicely first under my own name.  Anything I have to say, I will say using my own name.....it promotes integrity. "


I believe her. She's wrong most of the time, but at least she has the courage to stand behind some of her ridiculous notions.  More than I'll say for some of the other "staff-enablers" around here.
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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2004, 05:38:00 PM »
I think the hatred is justified...

You see, Staff made me really really hate myself
and I never could get over it...Beforew that it was my Mother (who made the perfect Nazi recruiter for straight and eventually deemed it necc to split our family up over it...not that my family was worth a shit anyway) and yes I hate her too..

 When JLoar first made her apologies I backed her...yet for the life of me could not remember her hardly at all...
 Then I started to talk to someone that was there with us and it started to come back..a certain OMR that lasted 2 hours the focus on me...being confronted for a medical problem that had nothing to do with behavior or drugs..

Then I remembered her .... and some things I cannot forgive..
 That 2 hours humiliated me to the point that I never really got over ( along with many many other group humiliations) and unfortunately after straight etc..I no longer had a family and hated myself..

And you wanted to just say sorry??? Straight left me with nothing ...

 "Im sorry"

 You are more than sorry..you are a pathetic bitch that lives in fear...you are evil..
 and every day I pray that god brings suffering upon you..I hope that your endeavors are a failure...

 I just want you to get what you deserve...

 And you Mr Loar... COngrats you raised a fucking monster...you sir are a failure as a parent
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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2004, 09:47:00 PM »
Wow. Not one follow up to this one? Hard to believe.  :eek:

Nobody? RTP2003? Reagan Youth? animals all of us? Anonymous? Drugdolph Hitroll? toddbrown? jenloar?
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« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2004, 10:31:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-30 18:47:00, Froderik13 wrote:

"Wow. Not one follow up to this one? Hard to believe.  :eek:



Nobody? RTP2003? Reagan Youth? animals all of us? Anonymous? Drugdolph Hitroll? toddbrown? jenloar?  "


I think it speaks  eloquently (that means it's an effective use of language, Morli) all by itself.  Makes the point pretty well.
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« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2004, 10:53:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-29 23:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"All this worthless bitching is a waste of time.

While you moan about your tormenters and flounder back and forth about who is right and who is wrong, who is good and evil this shit is happening all over the place.  So rage and rant , vent, whine and spew your hate all you want. If you just took a fraction of that energy and put it toward doing something constructive, maybe you wouldn't sound like you are still blasting the people you never got to confront and you wouldn't sound like a twelve year old boy who got picked on and wants his revenge, what 20 years later?

And maybe if you invested your energy into something constructive you could help to prevent some other kid from going through what we all experienced, and maybe some desperate parent who stumbles accross this site might think twice about placing their kid in a place like Straight, but how could they ever take this forum seriously and view the bits and pieces of truth as anything substantial if huge blocks of space are filled with this trash.



Some staff were mean and I can't figure out why you choose to mimic them day in and day out.  "


Wow. All things that have been running through my head for a long time about this place.
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« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2004, 11:43:00 PM »
Uh,,,yeah. Whatever...

Drugdolph? Do you have any comments?  :lol:

Anybody with a NAME???
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« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2004, 11:57:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-30 20:43:00, Froderik13 wrote:

"Uh,,,yeah. Whatever...



Drugdolph? Do you have any comments?  :lol:



Anybody with a NAME???"


Goddamn it!  Won't these idiots come up with something worth responding to?  And doing it anon, well,hell, I ain't even gonna bring that up. Give me a minute--gotta smoke a cigarette. I'll be back--god damn, but these idiots annoy me.  Anybody else want to shoot this moron down?
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« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2004, 12:39:00 AM »
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On 2004-03-29 23:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"All this worthless bitching is a waste of time.
I don't think so--even if it were, it's my time, so why should you care? First off, it gives me a chance to vent the anger I feel from being in Straight.  You wouldn't want me "pushing my feelings down" would you?  Second, it lets those ex-Staff members who either put on their victim costumes or who don't think the program was "that bad" to know how I feel about them and their lack of remorse in no uncertain terms. Call me selfish, but I like expressing my opinion on this subject.  Also, if it's such a waste of time, why do you bother to call attention to this thread by responding?  Feeding the fire if you ask me.

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While you moan about your tormenters and flounder back and forth about who is right and who is wrong, who is good and evil this shit is happening all over the place.
           
 You're right--Straightlike programs still exist all over the USA and in foreign countries,too.  If I were to delete every post I have made on this subject, it wouldn't bring those programs one minute closer to closing time.  On the contrary, maybe something I say will jar the memory of some ex-Staff.  This has already happened at least once--the ex-Staffer, who shall remain nameless in this post, "ammended" (sic) his previous denial that he abused anyone and changed it to "I'm not sure...I don't remember...if I did, I'm sorry."  See? The healing is beginning! It just took some confrontation. Didn't you learn anything at Straight?

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 So rage and rant , vent, whine and spew your hate all you want.
Thank you for your permission. I think I will.

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If you just took a fraction of that energy and put it toward doing something constructive, maybe you wouldn't sound like you are still blasting the people you never got to confront and you wouldn't sound like a twelve year old boy who got picked on and wants his revenge, what 20 years later?
So what if I AM blasting the people I never got a chance to confront?  I waited twenty years to tell some of these assholes to fuck off, and if they see these posts, then it was worth writing them. Again, it's my time--if you don't like it, don't read it.   I don't see anything wrong with revenge, personally, whether it's for something that happened twenty years ago or twenty minutes ago.  Cayohueso covered this point pretty well under the "Jeff Leugers Fan Club" thread. Read it if you give a damn.
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And maybe if you invested your energy into something constructive you could help to prevent some other kid from going through what we all experienced, and maybe some desperate parent who stumbles accross this site might think twice about placing their kid in a place like Straight, but how could they ever take this forum seriously and view the bits and pieces of truth as anything substantial if huge blocks of space are filled with this trash.
 If I were a parent, and I came across an RTP2003 post about Straight, or hell ,even a Fucktard or whoever post, I damn sure would not want to chance my kids coming out of a place like Straight one tenth as fucked up they are.  I'm the first to admit that STRAIGHT INC. FUCKED ME UP DAMN GOOD.  If you have any brains at all, you would be able to see that this kind of anger, hatred, and disgust doesn't just pop out of nowhere.  If my posts can give an ignorant ex-Staffer cause to think twice, I think they can also serve as an indicator to a concerned parent that the place they're thinking about sending little druggie Johnny might not be what it's advertised as.

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Some staff were mean and I can't figure out why you choose to mimic them day in and day out.  "
 No need to get insulting, Anon.  I have to take exception--drawing a parallel between my posts, no matter how heinous you may find the subject matter or the suggestions I make,and the systematic pattern of abuse that Staff dished out, day in and day out, is to make light of the abuses they perpetrated, and is an insult to me or any other survivor of the "treatment" and "therapy" we received at Straight, Inc.  Now please walk off a cliff.


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« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2004, 10:47:00 AM »
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On 2004-03-28 17:27:00, Anomalous wrote:

"Most of the people who fought the program only got it worse. We learned that every day, from day 1. Those time-out rooms were built close, with no ceilings, for a reason. Working was the only way out. Even if you spent your entire program knowing what was happening was wrong.  "


That is the most idiotic reasoning behind going along with the program that I have ever heard.

Do you "go along" with everything just to make it easier on yourself? I was a misbehavior and it wasn't easy, but it was a lot easier then kissing staffs ass and going along with that bullshit program that I never believed in.

I don't care if something is harder, thank God a lot of other people don't either or nothing would ever change in this world. If everyone just went along with the status quo no injustice would ever be changed.
If everyone was like you they would just give up and give in to the biggest bully to make it easy on themselves.
Thats pathetic, it is reasoning like that, that makes me sick.

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« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2004, 01:42:00 PM »
Coming from an adult I would agree with you Kaydee...but we are talking about our personal reactions as teenagers to a program designed by professional sadist.  Maybe you should reconsider your harsh judgement.
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« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2004, 01:44:00 PM »
Gotta hand it to you, Kaydeejaded, you brought up some really good points about how the attitude that Anomalous is championing is responsible for a lot more injustices being perpetuated than just the ones that happened in Straight.

Anomalous, you could have complied long enough to reach 2nd phase and then copped out.  I did, and I did it without hurting anyone else.  When a goon squad of Straight parents and a private detective came for me in the middle of the night, I was sent back to Straight, misbehaved for a while (had to get my kicks, you see) and then complied again long enough to get to 4th phase and leave from school.  Again, I did this without harming anyone else.  I have no sympathy for those that choose to call themselves victims when they are really abusers who now try to justify it by saying "I was brainwashed" or "It was self-preservation."  Bullshit.  I left Straight with nowhere to go, but I knew anything had to be better than that place.  You could have chosen to do the same. Calling yourself a victim does not remove your complicity.  There are quite a few ex-Staff who now work very hard to expose Straightlike programs for what they are and to help hold those that ran them accountable.  For an ex-Staffer to claim victim status without currently working against these programs is an insult to the many ex-Staff who are fighting the good fight.
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