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« on: March 19, 2004, 10:07:00 AM »
A former Spokesperson for Straight, Inc...Joy Margolis, was or is employed at this children's private gulag in Ft Lauderdale Florda run by the Luthern Services of Florida....

Check this out.


 WORKER WHO WATCHED BOY HANG CONVICTED OF NEGLECT

Worker who watched boy hang convicted of neglect
The counselor faces up to five years in prison after snapping photos as a teen dangled from a belt at a care center.
By Associated Press
Published March 19, 2004

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FORT LAUDERDALE - A jury on Wednesday convicted a youth care worker of child neglect for letting a 15-year-old boy hang from a belt looped around his neck at a shelter for troubled teens as she took pictures of him during the suicide attempt.

Anthony Dumas was still breathing as Sandra Trotter, 41, snapped the Polaroid photos.

Dumas lapsed into a coma after the June 2000 incident at the Lippman Family Center and died four months later.

Trotter, who was a counselor at the center, faces a sentence ranging from probation to five years in prison.

She will be sentenced March 27.

Two other employees were suspended over the incident.

Lutheran Services Florida, a Tampa-based nonprofit organization, runs the 20-bed center under a contract with the state Department of Juvenile Justice.

Assistant State Attorney Dennis Siegel told jurors Trotter could have tried to get the 110-pound boy down by lifting him up a foot to place him on a bunk and relieve the pressure on his neck.

"Four pictures of a hanging, unconscious child - she was able to do that, but she didn't lift that child one foot up," he said.

Siegel said Trotter gave varying excuses to justify her actions.

Trotter testified Wednesday that her supervisor ordered her not to touch the boy, but that she did try to loosen the belt.

She said she took the photos to show the position of the boy's body "for Lippman or whatever purpose they could be used for."

A judge had ordered Dumas into the center 19 days earlier, after he was arrested for shoving his mother.

State records indicate he told a counselor within hours of his arrival that he planned to hang himself.

"Justice was served," Dumas' mother, Shirley Finley, said. " ... I think it's been the hardest thing a parent can go through."

The family has a lawsuit pending against the Department of Juvenile Justice.

Finley reached a confidential, out-of-court settlement with Lutheran Services.

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2004, 12:06:00 PM »
Yeah, as I recall, Joy was the spokesperson for Lippman and Lutheran at the time of this incident. I contacted a reporter who wrote about it. She said the employees were Jamaican. At the time, I figured that meant they were just hirlings drawn from the local unemployment office or something, but not Program graduates like the Straight model. Now I have to wonder if there may be some kind of ties between Lippman and the TBS programs that have campuses in the Carribean.

Anyway, glad someone's finally doing some jail time. I wonder why it's taken four years for this to go to trial? Typical criminal cases take around two years in Ft. Lauderdale.

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2004, 02:51:00 PM »
One can only imagine the callousness and "commitment to the program" one must have to watch a 15 year old kicking and dying, hanging from a belt, and the only response you can muster up is  to document it with a camera to protect the program.

Wonderfull.


Sometimes I wonder who coined the phrase "the teen help industry".  I find the term false advertising at best.
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2004, 07:28:00 PM »
Secondly, it made me think of an episode of "without a trace", where there are series of things that happen to this 13 y/o kid in school.  how mean they can be to one another, how easily all of the events and actions of the kids were so misunderstood and their reactions (how things get "out of hand").  who remembers the picked on dejure kid at school.  they were counting minutes to find him.  at the very end, they finally found this missing boy.  he was hanging from monkey bars in the back yard of a classmate.  they ran to get him down, they ran and hoisted him and undid the rope.  he was still alive.  the last thing he said was to his mom while they putting him in the ambulance.  i dont want to go back to that school ever again.  please.  While it is a "fictional" story, seeing the reality of what transpires at school, the recollection of my adolence.  it hit a little too close to home for me.  
 
she should have been running to get him down.  WTF, how could anyone think to do anything other than that.  How is that possible.  really, here's the question, how did she "know" he was dead?  lets see, 5 yrs in exchange for the life of someone's son/brother/nephew/friend (or whatever he was, he was a PERSON and a child).  
justice.  was it served?  hey, there have been people in the same type of setting who have murdered, as far as I am concerned, and gone scotfree.  
in my humble opinion, while its not eye for eye, some justice, in comparison to other cases, was served.


First, it made me think about when my son was having post traumatic stress.  he was acting crazy, like i had never seen. - w/o going into the events that lead up to me "threatening" to call the police (he did not physically harm me nor did i think he would, i was scared by his behavior)  to the point where i told him, stop it or i'll call the police.  i never did call them.  he is ok.  but that couldve happen to my son.  we cant even trust the "authority" (school fuckin counselors), the police would've come for the right reason, but what if my son ended up at a home b/c of it??

one final thing, my son said to me this week, "we are the ones who will determine what happens for the next hundred years"
meaning his generation.  his is soon to be 17.

(think about technology, genetic engineering, stem cell research, choosing hair color, eye color, eliminating genetic defects/health problems, curing aids, cancer, DNA codes, children being tried as adults, reversal of roe vs wade, personal freedom, the patriot act , children being tried as adults, gulags, mental vs thinking "out of the box", etc, etc.)

yep.  i had to agree with him on that.
to Nate:   :nworthy:

they have alot.  society, we have to catch up

WP
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2004, 07:35:00 PM »
that was me who forgot to login again.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2004, 07:36:00 PM »
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On 2004-03-19 11:51:00, GregFL wrote:

"One can only imagine the callousness and "commitment to the program" one must have to watch a 15 year old kicking and dying, hanging from a belt, and the only response you can muster up is  to document it with a camera to protect the program.



Wonderfull.





Sometimes I wonder who coined the phrase "the teen help industry".  I find the term false advertising at best.





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no, i'm sorry, i can't even imagine.  that is beyond me.
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2004, 05:30:00 PM »
i choose to do one on the teen help industry.  i've got 15-20 minutes at the plate.  not much time.  i have a wealth of info.  i'm not sure where to start.  i've got to get the important points accross.
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